Ryzen mobile announced

[rawrdaysgoby]

Some of you guys don't understand THESE WILL BE BEAST FOR ALL 1080p screen laptops for GAMING guys come on intel's shitty graphics can't do anything this isn't even a dgpu for a laptop it is a SINGLE chip PERFECT for sub 1000$ laptops

[Trixanity]

5 hours ago, RagnarokDel said:

Who knows what's really in AM4?

AM4 is just a socket. Unless they pull an Intel, there's no reason any features doesn't run on it.  In fact the majority of the feature set is located on the CPU.

[AlTech]

18 hours ago, porina said:

These are 15W parts so they're not going to be for higher end gaming laptops, but it will be interesting to see what it does for gaming performance of such low power systems. Intel had already started looking at more cores as standard in the mobile space, and this is likely what they were looking to defend against.

You forgot to mention that these parts can be configured by OEMs to have a TDP of 25w.

[porina]

6 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

You forgot to mention that these parts can be configured by OEMs to have a TDP of 25w.

I wasn't intending to cover every possible detail, that's what the linked article is for. Besides, even at 25W, that doesn't change my statement, it isn't going to be for a high end gaming system.

[AlTech]

Just now, porina said:

I wasn't intending to cover every possible detail, that's what the linked article is for. Besides, even at 25W, that doesn't change my statement, it isn't going to be for a high end gaming system.

at 25w yes it could be. And there's a huge difference between not "intending to cover every possible detail" and lacking crucial product information. I think that not mentioning the 25w part is the latter and not the former.

 

The 2014 (and 2015 I think) Razer Blade laptops used a 35w i7 from Intel which was a special SKU which produced less heat for them to fit it in the Blade.

 

25w vs 15w can lead to significantly higher clock speeds and could mean the R7 2700U and R5 2500U could appear in higher end laptops like an XPS 15 for example.

[porina]

1 minute ago, AluminiumTech said:

at 25w yes it could be. And there's a huge difference between not "intending to cover every possible detail" and lacking crucial product information. I think that not mentioning the 25w part is the latter and not the former.

You're welcome to your opinion which on this occasion I'm going to disagree with.

1 minute ago, AluminiumTech said:

25w vs 15w can lead to significantly higher clock speeds and could mean the R7 2700U and R5 2500U could appear in higher end laptops like an XPS 15 for example.

You're looking at different areas than my statement. When I say high end gaming laptops, I'd consider equivalent to 1060 as a minimum. These are not in that category. They are clearly targeted at those who want small size over power. That's fair enough, but was not the point of my earlier statements wrt gaming.

[Prox1ma]

2 hours ago, Trixanity said:

AM4 is just a socket. Unless they pull an Intel, there's no reason any features doesn't run on it.  In fact the majority of the feature set is located on the CPU.

I am not sure if B350 chipsets would be able to fully support the zen chips that would come out in 2020. I have doubts with even the X370

[Trixanity]

28 minutes ago, Ezilkannan said:

I am not sure if B350 chipsets would be able to fully support the zen chips that would come out in 2020. I have doubts with even the X370

That's a different question. You're talking chipset, not socket. There will be new chipsets next year. Also, that chipset you're referring to is made by ASMedia. It has nothing do with future support. I'll say it again: the majority of all IO and features are integrated in the processor you buy. What ASMedia makes is absolute shit and is only there to add extra IO and a way to differentiate product segments. X370 will arguably have better board design by its very nature through premium pricing and therefore better materials and design. However nothing stops a company from implementing similar designs in a lower tier.

[Prox1ma]

2 minutes ago, Trixanity said:

That's a different question. You're talking chipset, not socket. There will be new chipsets next year. Also, that chipset you're referring to is made by ASMedia. It has nothing do with future support. I'll say it again: the majority of all IO and features are integrated in the processor you buy. What ASMedia makes is absolute shit and is only there to add extra IO and a way to differentiate product segments. X370 will arguably have better board design by its very nature through premium pricing and therefore better materials and design. However nothing stops a company from implementing similar designs in a lower tier.

Ah ok. I thought when he said AM4, he was referring to chipsets.

[NumLock21]

23 hours ago, wcreek said:

How much vram does the MX150 or Mobile 1030 have? 
Obviously GDDR5 (right?) is faster than DDR3 or DDR4 especially for graphics cards. Shame I don't think mobile DDR4 comes much faster than 2400MHz, most of it is DDR4 2133MHz.

Depends on the OEM, they can get custom ones, beyond the specs set by Nvidia. So far it's either 2gb or 4gb GDDR5. 

 

[cj09beira]

 

5 hours ago, Ezilkannan said:

I am not sure if B350 chipsets would be able to fully support the zen chips that would come out in 2020. I have doubts with even the X370

it probably will but have the same problems it has now, the vrms are shit, but don't forget that that version of ryzen is going to be on 7nm so the lower power consumption of the node will probably help keep total power requirements around the same level

[Guest]

AMD launches 15W Ryzen APUs with Vega Graphics it has also shown Benchmarks and will be Available from 2018 via OEMs like Dell, HP, Asus, etc.

Source: http://wccftech.com/amd-launches-15w-ryzen-7-2700u-ryzen-5-2500u-apus-radeon-vega-graphics-absolutely-incredible-performance-numbers/

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[kalnick]

13 minutes ago, Raziq_26 said:

AMD launches 15W Ryzen APUs with Vega Graphics it has also shown Benchmarks and will be Available from 2018 via OEMs like Dell, HP, Asus, etc.

Source: http://wccftech.com/amd-launches-15w-ryzen-7-2700u-ryzen-5-2500u-apus-radeon-vega-graphics-absolutely-incredible-performance-numbers/

Any info on desktop versions or are these them as well?

[Doobeedoo]

1 minute ago, kalnick said:

Any info on desktop versions or are these them as well?

They're yet to come. 

[WkdPaul]

Threads merged.

[Guest]

13 hours ago, kalnick said:

Any info on desktop versions or are these them as well?

Probably yes cause in cinebench Ryzen 5 is against i5-7600K which is desktop processor...

[Phate.exe]

On 10/27/2017 at 12:50 AM, Dabombinable said:

And on the CPU side of things, Intel's (retarded) dual core i7 get rekt.

I use one of them every day at work.

 

They deserve to die.

[Trixanity]

3 hours ago, Raziq_26 said:

Probably yes cause in cinebench Ryzen 5 is against i5-7600K which is desktop processor...

Not really. They used that to say "faster than a desktop processor" but that's, of course, a huge asterisk.

 

Given the behavior seen from mobile processors who have had their TDP artificially pumped up in the past, it's more likely AMD has beefier processors in the works for 1H2018. Unless Zen behaves better with that approach.

 

I fully expect them to have have at least one more die in the works for a 65W nominal TDP. That way they can be put into mobile with a fixed TDP down to 45W while still able to be put onto a socket and into a desktop with both nominal TDP and TDP down. They can take that die and pump the TDP up to 95W and launch it as a flagship desktop chip too. Perhaps with a slightly beefier GPU and cache if they'll allow bigger a bigger die size.

 

That's the theory anyway. Of course there is a chance that they'll just pull the same shit they did before and put mobile chips into desktops like they did with Carrizo which was a shit show if I recall correctly.

[RagnarokDel]

On 27/10/2017 at 3:49 AM, Trixanity said:

AM4 is just a socket. Unless they pull an Intel, there's no reason any features doesn't run on it.  In fact the majority of the feature set is located on the CPU.

Well I meant the chipsets associated with it but yes I derped.

On 26/10/2017 at 10:14 PM, Ben Quigley said:

By AM4 are you referring to the socket or the CPUS?

If the socket them in fairly sure it's not there. If the Processor then this had been in the works for some time before they decided to go license free, it's hard to just add new things to uarchitectures.

I meant the chipsets

[leadeater]

On 10/27/2017 at 11:39 PM, Ezilkannan said:

Ah ok. I thought when he said AM4, he was referring to chipsets.

This is one of the nice design features that the Zen architecture has, a chipset is not even required. AMD EPYC server motherboards don't even have a chipset at all, Ryzen/Threadripper could do the same but you'll want audio so that is why the chipset exists (among other reasons).

[MyName13]

9 minutes ago, leadeater said:

This is one of the nice design features that the Zen architecture has, a chipset is not even required. AMD EPYC server motherboards don't even have a chipset at all, Ryzen/Threadripper could do the same but you'll want audio so that is why the chipset exists (among other reasons).

Do chipsets handle audio somehow?I wonder if the competition will lead us to chipsetless motherboards and CPUs with embedded chipsets.

[leadeater]

1 hour ago, MyName13 said:

Do chipsets handle audio somehow?I wonder if the competition will lead us to chipsetless motherboards and CPUs with embedded chipsets.

The chipset is mostly a PCIe switch that allows other chips, like audio to be connected to it. On Ryzen it's turning a 4 lane PCIe 3.0 link in to 8 lanes of PCIe 2.0, those 8 lanes are used to connect up other chipsets like SATA/M.2/Audio/USB/LAN/Wireless etc.

 

The reason why it's PCIe 2.0 is so they can double out those 4 PCIe 3.0 lanes with a much simpler switching logic and be able to connect more, potentially 8 rather than 4.

[NumLock21]

If HP continues to use the same color finish as their FX model, then the name will be Dark Ash.

I wonder where did HP got that name from? Hmmm... ?

[Nowak]

48 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

If HP continues to use the same color finish as their FX model, then the name will be Dark Ash.

I wonder where did HP got that name from? Hmmm... ?

Pokémon, obviously.