Why have people been telling me a 1700x and a GTX 1070 isn't good enough for 1440p?

[DSprite]

According to this video here:

 A Ryzen 1700 and a GTX 1070 can achieve around 60-100 fps on most games. People have been saying to get a 8700K and a GTX 1080ti if I want 1440p 144Hz, yet I play 60-90fps on my current 1080p 144Hz monitor and it's completely fine.

 

Also, would a 1700X and a GTX 1070 bottleneck at 1440p 144hz?

[emosun]

3 minutes ago, DSprite said:

A Ryzen 1700 and a GTX 1070 can achieve around 60-100 fps on most games.

and for 144hz it would need to achieve 144fps to actually match the screen refresh rate otherwise why bother running a 144hz screen?

[r4tch3t]

60-100 easy.  I'm  on a 1070 with a 3570k and its fine with 1440p60. You would have to turn some settings  down for 144hz though

[hhamama66]

It's nonsense. Though I don't think a 1700x is worth it if you're just gaming. Maybe go down to a 1600.

[Humbug]

People are wrong.

That's a good combo.

 

I would pick vega56 though. Looks like AMD's drivers are better optimized for multithreading on different kinds of CPUs (both Intel and AMD Ryzen).

[AresKrieger]

Your not playing at 144hz that is why people are telling you more is needed, as they aren't wrong you do need top of the line to achieve that fps level consistently.

[79wjd]

Did you even bother to read the responses to your previous threads? They all said exactly this:

11 minutes ago, DSprite said:

A Ryzen 1700 and a GTX 1070 can achieve around 60-100 fps on most games. People have been saying to get a 8700K and a GTX 1080ti if I want 1440p 144Hz, yet I play 60-90fps on my current 1080p 144Hz monitor and it's completely fine.

 

Literally everyone said a 1700x+1070 is ONLY bad if you expect to get 1440p@144hz, in which case you should go for an 8700k+1080Ti, otherwise a 1700 + 1070 is fine

 

Although, you shouldn't waste your money on the 1700x over the 1700 and in fact, if you're just gaming/streaming then you shoud go with a 1600+1080.

[DSprite]

 

10 minutes ago, emosun said:

and for 144hz it would need to achieve 144fps to actually match the screen refresh rate otherwise why bother running a 144hz screen?

I notice a difference with with 70fps @ 60Hz 1080p and 70fps @ 144Hz 1080p

[DSprite]

4 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

Did you even bother to read the responses to your previous threads? They all said exactly this:

 

Literally everyone said a 1700x+1070 is ONLY bad if you expect to get 1440p@144hz, in which case you should go for an 8700k+1080Ti, otherwise a 1700 + 1070 is fine

 

Although, you shouldn't waste your money on the 1700x over the 1700 and in fact, if you're just gaming/streaming then you shoud go with a 1600+1080.

But I don't necessarily need to have straight 144fps, 70-90 is fine, so is it still bad?

[79wjd]

Just now, DSprite said:

But I don't necessarily need to have straight 144fps, 70-90 is fine, so is it still bad?

It will depend on the game and how long you expect it to last. 

 

If 70-90 fps is good enough for you and that's what you're aiming for then that's fine. All the responses you got said that even, but they also said that 144fps isn't going to happen. All I'm saying is that the responses you got line up EXACTLY with the video that you started with this thread and the response that you posted along with it. 

[emosun]

2 minutes ago, DSprite said:

I notice a difference with with 70fps @ 60Hz 1080p and 70fps @ 144Hz 1080p

uh yeah , because the 60hz screen maxes out at 60fps.

 

Am i taking crazy pills here or what

[emosun]

1 minute ago, djdwosk97 said:

the responses you got line up EXACTLY with the video that you started with this thread

what's great is that the video is 60fps as well.

[Watashi]

Theres nothing wrong with having a 144Hz monitor, you can simply turn the refresh rate down, and if you want to use that feature in the future, turn the refresh rate back up! It is nice having a monitor with 144Hz for that reason imo

[DSprite]

15 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

Did you even bother to read the responses to your previous threads? They all said exactly this:

 

Literally everyone said a 1700x+1070 is ONLY bad if you expect to get 1440p@144hz, in which case you should go for an 8700k+1080Ti, otherwise a 1700 + 1070 is fine

 

Although, you shouldn't waste your money on the 1700x over the 1700 and in fact, if you're just gaming/streaming then you shoud go with a 1600+1080.

I didn't say that I was talking about the people who responded to me on this forum either. I spoke to people IRL and they said I would need an 8700K full stop. 

[79wjd]

8 minutes ago, DSprite said:

I didn't say that I was talking about the people who responded to me on this forum either. I spoke to people IRL and they said I would need an 8700K full stop. 

People irl are idiots. Full Stop. 

[asand1]

6 hours ago, DSprite said:

I didn't say that I was talking about the people who responded to me on this forum either. I spoke to people IRL and they said I would need an 8700K full stop. 

There is no point in having a 144hz monitor unless you are going to run over 60fps. A 1070 and 1700 will likely not hit 144fps.

 

FPS =Hz.

[LienusLateTips]

It's fine, but Ryzen isn't THAT good for extreme high refresh.

[79wjd]

19 minutes ago, asand1 said:

There is no point in having a 144hz monitor unless you are going to run 144fps. A 1070 and 1700 will likely not hit 144fps.

 

FPS =Hz.

I disagree. I personally notice a huge benefit at 90fps and minimal gains after that. Sure at 90fps on a 144hz screen tearing can occur, but that doesn't bother me. 

[CostcoSamples]

1 hour ago, emosun said:

and for 144hz it would need to achieve 144fps to actually match the screen refresh rate otherwise why bother running a 144hz screen?

So by your false logic, you should not buy a 144hz display unless you can always achieve minimum 144 fps?  complete nonsense.

[emosun]

36 minutes ago, CostcoSamples said:

So by your false logic, you should not buy a 144hz display unless you can always achieve minimum 144 fps?  complete nonsense.

yeah , same reason i don't buy a 144ft ladder if i don't need the last 50 feet of it. waste of money

 

the whole refresh rate gimmick lately is just to sell gpu's and monitors anyway with the stagnant pc hardware growth in the last few years.

[System Error Message]

the r7 with any GPU is a good combo. Even with a titan XP. Infact gaming performance on ryzen is pretty decent with clock speeds differentiating things. Your GPU is the only thing thats holding you back not your CPU.

 

The problem is that people use gaming benchmarks to determine what CPU to buy. Just because intel wins gaming benchmarks doesnt make the AMD ryzen the CPU to avoid for gaming, only that ryzen isnt as fast as intel for gaming but does not make ryzen a bad deal for gaming. Both the price and performance of ryzen make it a very good CPU for gamers too.

[i_build_nanosuits]

2 hours ago, DSprite said:

According to this video here:

 A Ryzen 1700 and a GTX 1070 can achieve around 60-100 fps on most games. People have been saying to get a 8700K and a GTX 1080ti if I want 1440p 144Hz, yet I play 60-90fps on my current 1080p 144Hz monitor and it's completely fine.

 

Also, would a 1700X and a GTX 1070 bottleneck at 1440p 144hz?

people don't realise that if you have Gsync even 85 to 95FPS is in the stupid smooth range.

[79wjd]

50 minutes ago, emosun said:

yeah , same reason i don't buy a 144ft ladder if i don't need the last 50 feet of it. waste of money

 

the whole refresh rate gimmick lately is just to sell gpu's and monitors anyway with the stagnant pc hardware growth in the last few years.

Feel free to find me a 90hz monitor (that's cheaper than a 144hz monitor). I'll wait. 

 

Also, it's not a gimmick. I personally prefer a good 60hz IPS display over a 144hz TN display, but there is a noticeable difference between 60fps and 144fps (60->90 is where the far bigger gains lie imo). 

[emosun]

3 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

Feel free to find me a 90hz monitor (that's cheaper than a 144hz monitor). I'll wait. 

they make 90hz monitors? lol

 

to technically answer your question I'd say freebee crt wins seeing as you didn't specific the res or size.

[naaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

1700+1070 can easily hit 144fps 1440p,   just not maxed everything in all games. turn some settings down a bit like AA.
not even 1080ti can max everything and keep 144fps+