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X399 to Support Bootable NVME Raid on Sept 25

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When AMD Ryzen Threadripper HEDT platform launched earlier this year, a shortcoming was its lack of NVMe RAID support. While you could build soft-RAID arrays using NVMe drives, you couldn't boot from them. AMD is addressing this, by adding support for NVMe RAID through a software update, scheduled for 25th September. This software update is in the form of both a driver update (including a lightweight F6-install driver), and a motherboard BIOS update, letting AMD X399 chipset motherboards boot from RAID 0, RAID 1, and RAID 10 arrays made up of up to ten NVMe drives. AMD confirmed that it has no plans to bring NVMe RAID support for the X370 or B350 platforms.

 

It is nice to see that X399 will be getting bootable NVME raid for free. This was one thing x299 had over x399 but now the table have turned.

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/236644/amd-to-enable-nvme-raid-on-x399-threadripper-platform

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Love the emphasis on FREE.

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Just now, tjcater said:

Love the emphasis on FREE.

I mean when you can take shots at your competition, not doing so is a mistake

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This was known quite some time though. 

But either way awesome. 

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As an NVMe user, F#CK YEAH! But why? I guess RAID 1 makes sense, but 0?

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3 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

As an NVMe user, F#CK YEAH! But why? I guess RAID 1 makes sense, but 0?

I'm still going for X299, so I can have RAID 0 NVMe SSDs with Optane cache for a total of 0.2ms shorter boot times.

Also, I will install every piece of bloatware on my motherboard's CD, AV, Steam, Skype, TuneUp. Everything"run at startup", of course.

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19 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

As an NVMe user, F#CK YEAH! But why? I guess RAID 1 makes sense, but 0?

I use Raid 0 as a hardware level disk pairing to give a bigger size boot drive. for example using 2 1TB 960 Pros to get a nice 2TB bootable drive, the 7GBps reads is just a side effect.

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I like how they put FREE in all caps xD 

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2 hours ago, tjcater said:

Love the emphasis on FREE.

The fact that 'free' needs to be emphasized speaks volumes about what a terrible market we have to deal with.

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Is this chipset NVME raid that you could do on Intel boards free forever?

 

VROC is CPU NVME, which I don't think AMD has at all free or not. It *would* be a very AMD thing to do to try and confuse the issue and act like they're doing you a favor finally implementing a feature Intel has had for over a year.

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VROC is CPU NVME, which I don't think AMD has at all free or not.

People don't understand what the RAID key is for and extrapolate it towards all RAID configurations even though it only applies to RAID levels above 0, i.e. 1 and up. 

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16 minutes ago, AnonymousGuy said:

Is this chipset NVME raid that you could do on Intel boards free forever?

 

VROC is CPU NVME, which I don't think AMD has at all free or not. It *would* be a very AMD thing to do to try and confuse the issue and act like they're doing you a favor finally implementing a feature Intel has had for over a year.

well, as of now NO x399 has NVME drives go through the chipset, the go straight to the CPU. so for them to enable this raid feature it would have to be a CPU raid feature.

 

(I personally checked that Asus, AsRock, and gigabyte boards have all the NVME drives go through CPU PCIe lanes)

 

So AFAIK this is a CPU raid.

 

EDIT: The only things that go through the x399 chipset is Ethernet, Sata(but not m.2 sata), PCIe Gen2 add ons. (ex. 10Gbe cards)

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2 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

well, as of now NO x399 has NVME drives go through the chipset, the go straight to the CPU. so for them to enable this raid feature it would have to be a CPU raid feature.

So AFAIK this is a CPU raid

Ryzen chipsets provide very few lanes in the first place, eight of them, last I checked. 

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Ryzen chipsets provide very few lanes in the first place, eight of them, last I checked. 

TR4 provides 48 PCIe for "GPUs" aka PCIe slots and the last 12 is used for the 3 M.2 slots.

Also M.2 Sata is direct to the CPU. Ryzen has on die Sata were a 4x PCIe can be used as 2 6Gb sata.

 

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2 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

TR4 provides 48 PCIe for "GPUs" aka PCIe slots and the last 12 is used for the 3 M.2 slots.

Also M.2 Sata is direct to the CPU. Ryzen has on die Sata were a 4x PCIe can be used as 2 6Gb sata.

 

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Was that slideshow pre or post x299 announcement?

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Was that slideshow pre or post x299 announcement?

Post, but all you have to do was 2x the x370 block diagram. most people should of figured out that 3 NVME drives would be direct to the CPU.

 

Ryzen has 1 dedicated NVME drive lanes but due to the fact TR doesn't need 2 chip sets it gets another 4x PCIe to make it 3.

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Post, but all you have to do was 2x the x370 block diagram. most people should of figured out that 3 NVME drives would be direct to the CPU.

 

Ryzen has 1 dedicated NVME drive lanes but due to the fact TR doesn't need 2 chip sets it gets another 4x PCIe to make it 3.

I was just curious as the slideshow had EVERY CPU stand out.

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3 minutes ago, tjcater said:

I was just curious as the slideshow had EVERY CPU stand out.

that was know before. AMD stated on TR announcement that every TR4 CPU would get the same PCIe amount of 60+4, we just didn't get a nice Block diagram laying out the standard setup until the 1950x, 1920x hit the shelves.

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16 minutes ago, tjcater said:

I was just curious as the slideshow had EVERY CPU stand out.

Connectivity wise every Ryzen cpu is the same, every Threadripper is the same and every EPYC is the same (there are a few differences between single and dual-socket systems but the PCI-lanes stay the same (128 for both 1cpu systems and 2cpu systems, when there are 2 cpu's 64 lanes are used per cpu for communication between them, keeping the amount of available PCI-E lanes the same)

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4 minutes ago, samcool55 said:

Connectivity wise every Ryzen cpu is the same, every Threadripper is the same and every EPYC is the same (there are a few differences between single and dual-socket systems but the PCI-lanes stay the same (128 for both 1cpu systems and 2cpu systems, when there are 2 cpu's 64 lanes are used per cpu for communication between them, keeping the amount of available PCI-E lanes the same)

I'm aware, I was just referring to their jab at Intel's X299 platform,

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I'm aware, I was just referring to their jab at Intel's X299 platform,

Yeah the way Intel is doing stuff is annoying and imo BS.

It makes selecting a CPU more difficult just because they want more money.

 

It wouldn't surprise me if people would go with AMD just because it's easier to choose the ideal CPU.

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1 minute ago, samcool55 said:

Yeah the way Intel is doing stuff is annoying and imo BS.

It makes selecting a CPU more difficult just because they want more money.

 

It wouldn't surprise me if people would go with AMD just because it's easier to choose the ideal CPU.

Ya agree.

 

I know if I get a X370 Board I can run my GPU in 8x, my 10Gb SFP+ card in 8x, have a NVME drive as a boot drive and a M.2 Sata drive. with out any worries of bottle necking on a chipset.


That is what I need, I want a mATX X370 board but can't find one.

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2 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

Ya agree.

 

I know if I get a X370 Board I can run my GPU in 8x, my 10Gb SFP+ card in 8x, have a NVME drive as a boot drive and a M.2 Sata drive. with out any worries of bottle necking on a chipset.


That is what I need, I want a mATX X370 board but can't find one.

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1 minute ago, XenosTech said:

None  for you !!!!

I can settle for the Asrock ab350m and have the 10Gb and sata drive share the chipset lanes.

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1 minute ago, The Benjamins said:

I can settle for the Asrock ab350m and have the 10Gb and sata drive share the chipset lanes.

If you compromise it shows your weakness and they would have won. Fight for your beliefs man ! To battle !!

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