EK Confirms 4.2GHz easily attainable on Threadripper

[DocSwag]

2 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

Logan at OC3D saw the socket get really hot, and used a fan to cool it and the back plat. he stated the VRM on the Asus Zenith stayed cool even when it was eating 600+W

CPU pulling 600w? That doesn't sound right...

 

From what I've seen when OCed it should be 300-400w max... 600w is like OCed 7980XE. Maybe it was total system draw is 600w

[Guest]

16 cores at 4.5GHz with one of the higher end AIO's would be quite nice.

[The Benjamins]

1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

CPU pulling 600w? That doesn't sound right...

 

From what I've seen when OCed it should be 300-400w max... 600w is like OCed 7980XE. Maybe it was total system draw is 600w

I think that was whole system, but it is 200+W higher then stock which would put it around 400-500W.

 

But the point is the VRM heatsink on the Zenith is very good, and that is not what held it back.

[SpaceGhostC2C]

2 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

CPU pulling 600w? That doesn't sound right...

 

From what I've seen when OCed it should be 300-400w max... 600w is like OCed 7980XE. Maybe it was total system draw is 600w

It is total system draw.

 

Actual CPU power draw measurements are hard to find in reviews, most of the times they plug a kill-a-watt and call it a day.

[SpaceGhostC2C]

23 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Yea I said in mod chat "Brace yourselves for news section spam, Threadripper reviews just went live", yet nothing weird lol.

Meanwhile, in the mods kennel...

Spoiler

 

1 minute ago, The Benjamins said:

But the point is the VRM heatsink on the Zenith is very good, and that is not what held it back.

Expected VRM disaster, disappointed.

 

 

OK, enough with the non-serious post.

[Okjoek]

How high can it be overclocked on stock voltage?

[DocSwag]

1 minute ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

It is total system draw.

 

Actual CPU power draw measurements are hard to find in reviews, most of the times they plug a kill-a-watt and call it a day.

If it means anything I know Anandtech measure CPU power draw through software utilities. Their CPU editor knows his stuff and has said before it's fine so I trust em.

 

Gamers nexus recently started doing CPU power draw measurements straight from the CPU 8 pin, also.

[The Benjamins]

1 minute ago, Okjoek said:

How high can it be overclocked on stock voltage?

At stock it will all core boost to 3.7 Ghz, so their is your minimum OC at stock

[done12many2]

24 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

Logan at OC3D saw the socket get really hot, and used a fan to cool it and the back plat. he stated the VRM on the Asus Zenith stayed cool even when it was eating 600+W

 

Haha, I was just sharing that with you elsewhere.  I see you're on it. 

 

He was able to bring those high socket temps down with 2 x 120mm fans.  One aimed at the front of the socket and another at the back.

 

How the hell is someone going to be able to do that in a case?

[The Benjamins]

Just now, done12many2 said:

 

Haha, I was just sharing that with you elsewhere.  I see you're on it. 

 

He was able to bring those high socket temps down with 2 x 120mm fans.  One aimed at the front of the socket and another at the back.

 

How the hell is someone going to be able to do that in a case?

Hybrid liquid cooling, do a standard loop and then submerge it in mineral oil.

[done12many2]

Just now, The Benjamins said:

Hybrid liquid cooling, do a standard loop and then submerge it in mineral oil.

 

Problem solved.  Nothing else needs to be said here.  

[The Benjamins]

1 minute ago, done12many2 said:

 

Problem solved.  Nothing else needs to be said here.  

Also due to it being in oil you can run the water loop through a chiller with out any worries of condensation.

 

I think I just solved x299,x399 OC heat problems.

[done12many2]

Just now, The Benjamins said:

Also due to it being in oil you can run the water loop through a chiller with out any worries of condensation.

 

I think I just solved x299,x399 OC heat problems.

 

So to sum it up, 4GHz on all cores TR is going to require some specialized socket cooling of some type for daily use at that speed.  

 

If it's not one thing it another.  

 

These HCC chips (Intle and AMD) are really starting push the very limits of what people are going to be willing to do cooling wise to run them overclocked. 

[Misanthrope]

1 minute ago, done12many2 said:

 

So to sum it up, 4GHz on all cores TR is going to require some specialized socket cooling of some type for daily use at that speed.  

 

If it's not one thing it another.  

 

These HCC chips (Intle and AMD) are really starting push the very limits of what people are going to be willing to do cooling wise to run them overclocked. 

Maybe I'm way off but while the cores are kept under control with just an AIO a waterblock that fully covers the IHS maybe able to take away some of that heat before it gets transferred tot he metal parts of the socket and back plate. 

[The Benjamins]

3 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

So to sum it up, 4GHz on all cores TR is going to require some specialized socket cooling of some type for daily use at that speed.  

 

If it's not one thing it another.  

 

These HCC chips (Intle and AMD) are really starting push the very limits of what people are going to be willing to do cooling wise to run them overclocked. 

well at least at stock with the 3.7 all core boost it runs "cool"

[MageTank]

57 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

All TR reviews suggest otherwise.

 

Also zen isn't thermal limited so to speak its voltage limited. Voltage required climbs exponentially around 4GHz. Yes you can reach higher with crazy cooling but that's because insane voltages are required. That's a process limit not a thermal one.

All the other TR reviews have waterblocks and custom loops already? I thought the blocks just launched? 

 

You cannot possibly compare an AIO to a custom loop, lol. While I don't expect 4.2 to be "easy", it's probably possible, as I do know of a guy with a very custom block for threadripper, doing 4.1 at "reasonable" voltages. 

 

Understand, the lower your thermals, the less voltage you need to stabilize any given clock speed. So in that regard, almost all overclocks are technically "thermal limited". 

[done12many2]

2 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

Maybe I'm way off but while the cores are kept under control with just an AIO a waterblock that fully covers the IHS maybe able to take away some of that heat before it gets transferred tot he metal parts of the socket and back plate. 

 

Sure it would help.  Less heat on the dies and IHS would mean that it's transferred into the water and away from the socket, but that would also imply that if you don't have super low core temps, you're more than likely going to have very high socket temps.

[done12many2]

1 minute ago, MageTank said:

Understand, the lower your thermals, the less voltage you need to stabilize any given clock speed. So in that regard, almost all overclocks are technically "thermal limited". 

 

Very real talk here.  Something I wish more people understood.  They wouldn't think my water loop is that crazy then .  

[MageTank]

Just now, done12many2 said:

 

Very real talk here.  Something I wish more people understood.  They wouldn't think my water loop is that crazy then .  

I am currently living it, lol. You were able to push this 7700k to 5.2ghz at the same voltage required for me to make it work at 5ghz. 

[done12many2]

Just now, MageTank said:

I am currently living it, lol. You were able to push this 7700k to 5.2ghz at the same voltage required for me to make it work at 5ghz. 

 

To be fair, we have two completely different standards for testing.  My RealBench loads pale in comparison to your insanity.  Oh, and that 5.2 GHz RB stable was just on an AIO with cool ambient temps. ~21c  lol

[The Benjamins]

Well if their is still no Threadripper review thread in 7 hours I will make one, maybe.

 

EDIT: and if this happens I will only use WCCF as a source.

 

EDIT2: Looks like LTT was spared.

[Ravager911]

3 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

EDIT: and if this happens I will only use WCCF as a source.

You wouldn´t dare doing this.

[S w a t s o n]

4GHZ 32CORE CHIPS LETS GO GO

[Doobeedoo]

Well it's really good as far as being binned dies and on stock it's quite efficient as well. 

[AnonymousGuy]

Could someone TLDR: what does "socket got hot" mean?  Backplate?