Paris is considering eSports for the 2024 Olympics

[Orblivion]

There's a reason that chess isn't already in the Olympics, that reason being that there is no level of physical achievement involved in the playing of chess.  The same is true for any esport, they shouldn't be included.

[Brooksie359]

1 hour ago, mynameisjuan said:

Wow the main point went right over your head....I compared the actually athletes and you compared the playing field. 

you clearly don't understand. what I'm saying is the characters in the game are like equipment in the games and that the person in this scenario is the person playing the game... 

I mean there is a difference in reflexes and hand eye coordination between people and that translates to the game. This is the same as how most equipment in sports work and just because people use the same equipment doesn't mean there isn't a way to use it with more skill and show that you are better with that equipment than others. also how are you comparing athletes? you are comparing the character they play to a person when the person is the one playing the game not a 2d representation of their character so clearly that went over your head. I mean you basically did the equivalent of comparing a soccer player and a tennis players racket.

 

[Brooksie359]

1 hour ago, Orblivion said:

There's a reason that chess isn't already in the Olympics, that reason being that there is no level of physical achievement involved in the playing of chess.  The same is true for any esport, they shouldn't be included.

hmm I don't know about that. I mean most pro gamers have physical therapist because it is hard on the wrist. also the main point of the Olympics is entertainment and if there was a large enough interest in having chess in the Olympics it might actually be the case.

[sgloux3470]

Doesn't belong in the olympics.

 

eSports should (and is doing a good job of) create its own events and venues, not try and piggy back on long standing events for publicity.

 

Besides, literally all eSports games are shit. (Except counterstrike, but it has a lot of shitty mechanics.)

 

 

[Paranoid Kami]

I'm against this. They would probably do something stupid like put Call of Duty on there and it would fail because they put Call of Duty on there.

 

PC gaming is cheap by the way. Hockey gear costs more than a computer. Hell, gym passes costs more than computers.

[FIXXX]

Nice! I was hoping for the Parisian pickpockets and small-time thieves to get a solid upgrade for their home computers + accessories, laptops and smartphones.

[laminutederire]

8 hours ago, Orblivion said:

There's a reason that chess isn't already in the Olympics, that reason being that there is no level of physical achievement involved in the playing of chess.  The same is true for any esport, they shouldn't be included.

Have you ever took a deep look into esports to say that?

Esports player aren't often as obese as people thought they would be because pros have a minimum of athletic training such as running etc,  to tune their body to be ready for high stress situations.

Even former NBA players end up chipping in that market recognizing similarities between esports professionals and NBA pro players in their training 

[Orblivion]

8 hours ago, Brooksie359 said:

hmm I don't know about that. I mean most pro gamers have physical therapist because it is hard on the wrist. also the main point of the Olympics is entertainment and if there was a large enough interest in having chess in the Olympics it might actually be the case.

 

1 hour ago, laminutederire said:

Have you ever took a deep look into esports to say that?

Esports player aren't often as obese as people thought they would be because pros have a minimum of athletic training such as running etc,  to tune their body to be ready for high stress situations.

Even former NBA players end up chipping in that market recognizing similarities between esports professionals and NBA pro players in their training 

You both misunderstood what I meant by physical achievement.  Video games being physically demanding doesn't mean the players are athletes.  Lumberjack competitions are incredibly demanding as well, but neither they nor esports represent any achievements of the human body.

[laminutederire]

8 minutes ago, Orblivion said:

 

You both misunderstood what I meant by physical achievement.  Video games being physically demanding doesn't mean the players are athletes.  Lumberjack competitions are incredibly demanding as well, but neither they nor esports represent any achievements of the human body.

How about movement precision? Fast reflexes? High level of concentration ? 

[mynameisjuan]

9 hours ago, Brooksie359 said:

you clearly don't understand. what I'm saying is the characters in the game are like equipment in the games and that the person in this scenario is the person playing the game... 

I mean there is a difference in reflexes and hand eye coordination between people and that translates to the game. This is the same as how most equipment in sports work and just because people use the same equipment doesn't mean there isn't a way to use it with more skill and show that you are better with that equipment than others. also how are you comparing athletes? you are comparing the character they play to a person when the person is the one playing the game not a 2d representation of their character so clearly that went over your head. I mean you basically did the equivalent of comparing a soccer player and a tennis players racket.

 

Reread my comment and then write back. Characters in games are hard coded. You can only go this fast, do this much damage, have so much health, have so much stamina. In real life those values are everywhere in sports. 

[TacoSenpai]

I think calling gaming competitions eSports is a mistake to begin with.  They are fun to watch and do take skill at whatever game they are showing but they are not sports.  They should just be called tournaments or competitions because that is what they are.  A sport to me implies physical activity or physical competition.  Then again this is the same group of people who took wrestling out of the Olympics so I guess I can't be too surprised. 

[knightslugger]

2 hours ago, laminutederire said:

How about movement precision? Fast reflexes? High level of concentration ? 

vs. gross body movement and fatigue?

 

sorry, i respect Usain Bolt more than T3hn0obSly3r

[laminutederire]

1 hour ago, knightslugger said:

vs. gross body movement and fatigue?

 

sorry, i respect Usain Bolt more than T3hn0obSly3r

Well everyone is entitled to their own opinion. One could say running is not as worthy as it's tactically poorer.

Besides there are archery and golf which are bordeline with your definition

[Brooksie359]

3 hours ago, Orblivion said:

 

You both misunderstood what I meant by physical achievement.  Video games being physically demanding doesn't mean the players are athletes.  Lumberjack competitions are incredibly demanding as well, but neither they nor esports represent any achievements of the human body.

And curling does? Table tennis does? Do alot of the less physically intensive sports represent achievements of the human body? I would have to say based on your definition no. So I would say your argument is kinda irrelevant if it doesn't apply to all current Olympic sports.

[Brooksie359]

3 hours ago, mynameisjuan said:

Reread my comment and then write back. Characters in games are hard coded. You can only go this fast, do this much damage, have so much health, have so much stamina. In real life those values are everywhere in sports. 

Yes that is true and those are basically the rules of the game just like how sports have rules as well and constraints but even though all athletes are restricted to the same rules and equipment the difference primarily come from how they use them. This is the same with esports. You clearly fail to understand that all games have restraints and just because the ones in esports are different from what you are used to doesn't make it any less valid. 

[knightslugger]

5 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

And curling does? Table tennis does? Do alot of the less physically intensive sports represent achievements of the human body? I would have to say based on your definition no. So I would say your argument is kinda irrelevant if it doesn't apply to all current Olympic sports.

so let's add knitting then. How about origami? or finger painting? how about tractor pulls?

 

i mean if we're going to turn this into a world fair, we might as well get the pig, goat, and horse judging in order.

[Brooksie359]

4 minutes ago, knightslugger said:

so let's add knitting then. How about origami? or finger painting? how about tractor pulls?

 

i mean if we're going to turn this into a world fair, we might as well get the pig, goat, and horse judging in order.

They won't add those because the fan base isn't big enough while esports has a big enough fan base and alot more in common to competitive sports than those examples.

[knightslugger]

4 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

They won't add those because the fan base isn't big enough while esports has a big enough fan base and alot more in common to competitive sports than those examples.

never been to wisconsin eh?

 

besides, there's got to be something for "the fans" to do while other events that are far less appealing to them are going on... and hey... WORLD CLASS ORIGAMI! they could get a 60mm junk-silver "gold" medal for folding paper!

 

...just like a gamer could if they have a fast wrist and a quick click...

[NumLock21]

New olympic sport!

Butchering - best cut slabs of steak

Filleting - prefect thinly slices fish for sushi

Barbarqueing - best tasting ribs

[Doobeedoo]

Hmm, it's not whole body physical kinda of sport if you will. So are not many sports so what, if it's very competitive and requires various things from person like fast thinking, reaction etc. it can be called sport. 

I get that computer based sport is odd addition but still. You're using a tool and your skillset to win. Many sports as well. 

Personally I don't care if it's on Olympics or not, expected it have it's own name. But whatever, it's good it will get more exposure. 

 

[DildorTheDecent]

22 hours ago, Tech_Dreamer said:

No pleze don't . whats next ?  a twerk challenge being considered an active sports?

Well it's a good way to get thots active. 

 

Downside is that the arena will be filled with thots. 

[Brooksie359]

4 hours ago, knightslugger said:

never been to wisconsin eh?

 

besides, there's got to be something for "the fans" to do while other events that are far less appealing to them are going on... and hey... WORLD CLASS ORIGAMI! they could get a 60mm junk-silver "gold" medal for folding paper!

 

...just like a gamer could if they have a fast wrist and a quick click...

Dude I used to have a cabin in Wisconsin. The fan base for esports is huge. The last world's tournament for league of Legends had a higher viewership than the NBA finals so to say that esports and those activities have the same fan base is just not true in the slightest.

[knightslugger]

1 minute ago, Brooksie359 said:

Dude I used to have a cabin in Wisconsin. The fan base for esports is huge. The last world's tournament for league of Legends had a higher viewership than the NBA finals so to say that esports and those activities have the same fan base is just not true in the slightest.

well considering esports is a world wide thing, and the rest of the world doesn't give a rat's ass about the NBA (just like me) i guess that's not so far a fetched thing to state.

[Brooksie359]

Just now, knightslugger said:

well considering esports is a world wide thing, and the rest of the world doesn't give a rat's ass about the NBA (just like me) i guess that's not so far a fetched thing to state.

Yes but it shows there is enough viewership to warrant the Olympics considering it because alot of the sports in the Olympics aren't as popular as basketball and so by extension esports. Them adding esports is about getting more viewers and as a result more revenue. 

[knightslugger]

4 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

Yes but it shows there is enough viewership to warrant the Olympics considering it because alot of the sports in the Olympics aren't as popular as basketball and so by extension esports. Them adding esports is about getting more viewers and as a result more revenue. 

so i guess if we're basing it off viewership and popularity... why is synchronized swimming still in the olympics? or diving for that matter?

 

you really think gamers from around the world are going to buy an Olympic ticket to watch two nerds duke it out in a FPS?

 

or are you just talking about network television?