AMD to Include AIO Liquid Coolers with Ryzen Threadripper CPUs

[Hunter259]

Well considering AIO's that are on the market today will most likely not work on this retardedly large socket it makes some sense for having this be an option or have it come with it just due to the heat that it is going to produce and due to lack on any real products that will work at launch.

[samcool55]

That's cool, i mean it does remove the worry of having a correct cooler to properly fit on the massive IHS which might be scary for some people.

 

[The Benjamins]

17 minutes ago, samcool55 said:

That's cool, i mean it does remove the worry of having a correct cooler to properly fit on the massive IHS which might be scary for some people.

 

ya, and it probably helps OEMs a lot to have a solution like this.

 

it sucks AMD didn't make a new socket for TR it would of been ~2052-2662 pins versus 4094. I bet it was a cost savings measure to use the Epyc socket.

 

Note: ryzen is 1331 pins, Epyc is 4094

[grimreeper132]

3 hours ago, Morgan MLGman said:

I also think TR will be soldered, but there's no confirmation on that so it's just an educated guess, so keep that in mind. It might not be.

considering that R7 is soldered, I think that it can be said that it was almost definitely will be soldered

[samcool55]

41 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

ya, and it probably helps OEMs a lot to have a solution like this.

 

it sucks AMD didn't make a new socket for TR it would of been ~2052-2662 pins versus 4094. I bet it was a cost savings measure to use the Epyc socket.

 

Note: ryzen is 1331 pins, Epyc is 4094

I'm actually happy they kept it the same. TR is HEDT so it's nice they kept the huge socket so it really has the premium feeling and looks and it gives you the feeling and impression it really is an insane piece of tech.

 

Yeah ITX builds and maybe even micro-ATX builds won't happen but honestly, ryzen is probably good enough if you want something small.

 

[SpaceGhostC2C]

6 hours ago, HKZeroFive said:

The real question is if it's actually any good and how will it stack up to aftermarket air coolers such as the ones Noctua are preparing.

It will probably be the same as someone else's aftermarket cooler, if past experience is anything to go by: in the FX case, they were shipping a Cooler Master Nepton 120XL with maybe some branding here and there. Whoever they are partnering with now will do something similar, i guess.

 

Regarding the "need" for this: I think some people miss the point of having coolers by launch as opposed to having coolers in general. Judging by OP's source, this move could be motivated by the possibility that third-party coolers aren't ready by launch day, and AMD wants to ensure that doesn't harm sales from the beginning. Sure, aftermarket coolers will eventually follow, but it's not like Intel and AMD don't sell "Tray" versions of all their CPUs anyway...

[FakeNSA]

6 hours ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

LOL! It might be worth it just to experience the thrill of being called a ()shill

Sorry, I meant (insert company name here) shill. I referred to the mathematics empty set. However, this message was very confusing as i look back on it. LOL! Bit late at night for me I guess?

[paddy-stone]

6 hours ago, Jito463 said:

Did you intend to add a /s?  No one seriously believes AMD is doing this "for the customers", nor have I seen anyone but you make that statement.  They're doing this to add value to their product, and entice more people to buy TR over X299.  After all, if people have difficulty finding a proper heatsink for the CPU, they're probably not going to buy it.

Agree, even now it's a bit of a hit and miss situation with finding coolers for AM4, some manufacturers say that AM4 is supported, but on further inspection it is with a bracket that isn't included and has to be ordered, possibly making a further delay in building the PC... I have run into this a few times myself. IMO manufacturers should only say that it is compatible with components included in the package, and have a *note that AM4 is supported with a separate bracket, or similar.

I mean fair do's to the manufacturers for supplying the needed brackets free of charge, but it is mis-leading to say it's compatible, then to find out you need a bracket that's not included... I knew to look for this, but I bet there were a lot of people didn't know and then had to call customer services or found out the hard way.

 

Anyway, good on ya AMD, keep up the good work, couldn't be happier with my Ryzen 1700... hardly a glitch at all in the running of it so far in months of usage.

[Morgan MLGman]

1 hour ago, grimreeper132 said:

considering that R7 is soldered, I think that it can be said that it was almost definitely will be soldered

There is some more to it, die size and a physical size of the CPU matter when you want to solder a CPU AFAIK so it's not that easy to say, but if I were to bet, I'd also say that they will be soldered.

 

It's just not officially confirmed yet.

[Not_Sean]

I love this, Intel goes and flings shit in that press release with all the complete BS on Xeon vs TR.. and AMD is like ok.. F you too, AIO coolers for Everyone!! Eat a dick intel  Well thats how it goes down in my head. 

 

also sorry guys but you really cant complain that I use my own custom water loop, I don't want a AIO. If you are Enthusiast enough to 1. Have a custom loop, 2. Want a HEDT processor and all those cores for your Sweet Gaming Rig, Buying a new CPU block and doing it into the loop is honestly the least of your worries. Can only see that argument standing for people who are "Buying one next month" but never end up doing it anyways. 

 

Final thought. Thats awesome, Really Really impressed with AMD lately, going from the RX series of Value to the Ryzen series of awesomeness to the EYPIC-ness of TR. some really good times ahead, 

[cj09beira]

7 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

I mean I ONLY use Air coolers but it would be quite foolish to want to Air cool a 16 cores CPU haha even with something extreme like the CoolerMaster V8 GTS

because the area producing the heat is big and devided in two it shouldn't be too hard to cool 

[JuNex03]

Buy it, use the after market cooler you probably already have, then sell the stock cooler.

[Drak3]

27 minutes ago, JuNex03 said:

Buy it, use the after market cooler you probably already have, then sell the stock cooler.

Tell us how that goes, without modding your existing cooler.

[ravenshrike]

8 hours ago, BuckGup said:

It might also be telling us a little something about thermal management. How air wasn't enough or they didn't have time to make a new cooler.

They would have had to farm out the air cooler to Noctua. Easier, and cheaper, to use an AIO.

[Coaxialgamer]

1 hour ago, JuNex03 said:

Buy it, use the after market cooler you probably already have, then sell the stock cooler.

1) existing coolers won't be compatible with this absurdly large socket 

2) like the aio that came with the fx 9590, i expect this will only come with mounting hardware for the TR4 socket. 

[Guest]

Considering that the AIO cooler is bundled with the CPU, its a good value for the price. I suppose its better than spending an extra 100-$200 on a dfferent AIO cooler. Its nice to see that AMD is factoring in the price of a decent cooler over the stock one that you would normally get.

[scottyseng]

53 minutes ago, TheBeastPC said:

Considering that the AIO cooler is bundled with the CPU, its a good value for the price. I suppose its better than spending an extra 100-$200 on a dfferent AIO cooler. Its nice to see that AMD is factoring in the price of a decent cooler over the stock one that you would normally get.

Apparently according to TechPowerUp (Though everything is still up in the air with rumors), it won't come with a liquid cooler, but a liquid cooler bracket. 

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/235524/amd-ryzen-threadripper-to-include-asetek-retention-kit-in-retail-package

 

That and I also have to agree, it would be impossible to fit a AIO into the retail box (It's too small). I'm curious how existing AIOs can cool threadripper (The IHS is huge on it)