Acer announced a 43" 4K monitor with HDR in Japan

[snowComet]

Yesterday (6th July 2017) Acer Japan announced a new 43" 4K monitor in Japan, under the ET430K series, model name "ET430Kwmiiqppx"

 

Quote

On Amazon Japan's description page,

 

"【Acer HDR Ready対応】

Acer HDR ReadyモニターはHDR10に対応可能なグローバル ディミングエッジ型のスケーラーチップを搭載。実物に近い高い色再現性を達成。"

 

via Google Translate:

 

"[Acer HDR Ready compatible]

The Acer HDR Ready monitor is equipped with a global dimming edge type scaler chip that can support HDR 10. Achieve high color reproducibility close to the real thing."

 

 

 

Earlier this year Acer launched a 4K 43" monitor name "ET430K", with the model name "ET430Kwmiippx". The new monitor is pretty much the same as the old one, so they both have an IPS panel with 5ms response time, HDMI 2.0 ports, a mini Displayport, a Displayport, and others. But as the title suggested, the new monitor "ET430Kwmiiqppx" is HDR ready ("Acer HDR Ready", supports HDR10), according to Acer. Pls feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this monitor currently is the largest HDR-ready 4K monitor.

 

This monitor will run 4K @60Hz, but there are no mentions of supporting G-Sync or FreeSync on the product page, thus I guess this monitor didn't support either G-Sync or FreeSync. The monitor will be available in Japan on 21st July for ￥75,384 (~$665), according to Amazon Japan, and currently no words on pricing and availability outside Japan.

 

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1069106.html (in Japanese)

 

Press statement from Acer Japan

https://www.acer.com/ac/ja/JP/press/2017/276955 (in Japanese)

 

Product Page

https://www.acer.com/ac/ja/JP/content/model/UM.ME0SJ.002 (in Japanese)

 

https://www.amazon.co.jp/ディスプレイ-ET430Kwmiiqppx-43インチ-HDMI2-0x2・DP・MiniDP-Ready対応/dp/B073P7NVL2 (in Japanese)

[Techicolors]

> HDR

> 350 cd/m²

 

hmmm 

[dizmo]

Acer has by far the worst nomenclature. Seriously, get with the times and make something your consumers can understand! Though, tbh I'd love to know what that long line of numbers and letters actually means. 

 

That price is pretty awesome though. 2018, year of cheaper large displays? 

 

38 minutes ago, Technicolors said:

> HDR

> 350 cd/m²

 

hmmm 

Should it be higher? 

[TrigrH]

Better not be the same 43inch IPS panel that tons of monitors already out use, cos that fucker has burn-in.

[Notional]

1 hour ago, dizmo said:

Should it be higher? 

 

I believe the HDR10 standard is about 1000-1500 nits or so.

[dizmo]

1 hour ago, Notional said:

I believe the HDR10 standard is about 1000-1500 nits or so.

Haha wow that's quite a shortcoming then.

[TheUzu]

Give me the 144hz 4K HDR quantum dot display first Acer, cease all actions that don't get the display to me quicker.

[Techicolors]

8 minutes ago, S.Stephenson said:

Give me the 144hz 4K HDR quantum dot display first Acer, cease all actions that don't get the display to me quicker.

there's already monitors coming out soon that match those specs 

[TheUzu]

I want soon to mean right now that's the problem ain't heard anything new since April.

[OriAr]

26 minutes ago, S.Stephenson said:

Give me the 144hz 1440p HDR quantum dot display first Acer, cease all actions that don't get the display to me quicker.

FTFY.

I want a monitor that existing cards have the horsepower to provide a fitting frame rate.

 

[ThreePinkApples]

3 hours ago, dizmo said:

Haha wow that's quite a shortcoming then.

Yeah, I think that's why they say "HDR Ready". As in, it can handle HDR data and it does the best it can with it, but being only 350nits means that it is far from what the data is meant for. 

[TheUzu]

3 hours ago, OriAr said:

FTFY.

I want a monitor that existing cards have the horsepower to provide a fitting frame rate.

 

Muh 1080ti SLI begs to differ....

[Serin]

And thus dreams for that Philips 4k 43'' are dethroned...  

[dizmo]

5 hours ago, aerandir92 said:

Yeah, I think that's why they say "HDR Ready". As in, it can handle HDR data and it does the best it can with it, but being only 350nits means that it is far from what the data is meant for. 

They shouldn't be allowed to claim that if the panel can't fulfill the needs of the standard.

[The Benjamins]

22 minutes ago, dizmo said:

They shouldn't be allowed to claim that if the panel can't fulfill the needs of the standard.

Projector get away with being advertised as 1080p compatible when they only display a resolution of 800x600, makes it so hard to find a true 1080p projector.

[AshleyAshes]

11 hours ago, Notional said:

I believe the HDR10 standard is about 1000-1500 nits or so.

I wonder if it's different since it's a desktop monitor.  Like, we all talk about how many Nits you should see on an HDR TV but that's on a screen typically viewed from 10 or more so feet away.  On a desk however you're looking at more like 18-36 inches viewing distance.  1000-1500 nits could be harmfully bright at that viewing distance.

[Notional]

1 minute ago, AshleyAshes said:

I wonder if it's different since it's a desktop monitor.  Like, we all talk about how many Nits you should see on an HDR TV but that's on a screen typically viewed from 10 or more so feet away.  On a desk however you're looking at more like 18 inches viewing distance.  1000-1500 nits could be harmfully bright at that viewing distance.

I thought so too. But the advanced monitors with FALD (full array local dimming) will hit 1000 nits. Like the upcoming curved ultrawides with HRD and 200hz. But yes, they will a ton.

 

Addendum: Do be aware, that HDR does not require the entire monitor to show 1000 nits all over at once. Only bright spots/areas.

[mynameisjuan]

2 minutes ago, AshleyAshes said:

I wonder if it's different since it's a desktop monitor.  Like, we all talk about how many Nits you should see on an HDR TV but that's on a screen typically viewed from 10 or more so feet away.  On a desk however you're looking at more like 18-36 inches viewing distance.  1000-1500 nits could be harmfully bright at that viewing distance.

Slapped my face to my LG 65C6 and its not that bright.

[ThreePinkApples]

7 hours ago, dizmo said:

They shouldn't be allowed to claim that if the panel can't fulfill the needs of the standard.

They didn't claim "HDR Premium" which is the mark for those that have HDR10 support and 1000nits+ (512nits for OLED). "HDR Ready" is just "I support HDR10 signals".

And yes, it's stupid. "HDR" should mean "HDR Premium", while "HDR Premium" should mean 12bit and 10 000nits

[ThreePinkApples]

5 hours ago, AshleyAshes said:

I wonder if it's different since it's a desktop monitor.  Like, we all talk about how many Nits you should see on an HDR TV but that's on a screen typically viewed from 10 or more so feet away.  On a desk however you're looking at more like 18-36 inches viewing distance.  1000-1500 nits could be harmfully bright at that viewing distance.

No, not different. The point of reaching 1000nits is to be able to provide a high enough contrast (0.05nits to 1000nits in the same picture, or 0.005 to 512nits for OLED). So 350nits just isn't proper HDR, in any way. It will still give a better picture than SDR though, as SDR is only for 0.05 to 100nits, so extending the range to 350nits will still help. it's just not what HDR content will be designed for, so you can get some washed out results where highlights are simply clipped (so everything that is supposed to be 350nits or more is shown as 350nits, removing a lot of granularity in the picture)

[snowComet]

5 hours ago, AshleyAshes said:

I wonder if it's different since it's a desktop monitor.  Like, we all talk about how many Nits you should see on an HDR TV but that's on a screen typically viewed from 10 or more so feet away.  On a desk however you're looking at more like 18-36 inches viewing distance.  1000-1500 nits could be harmfully bright at that viewing distance.

According to spec, Dell's fitst HDR monitor, UP2718Q, has a brightness around 400 cd/m² (typical) and 1,000 cd/m² (peak)....

[Doobeedoo]

Huge monitor, 4K HDR10 all awesome, though apart nothing too spectacular.

[Cookybiscuit]

Can't get excited about 60Hz monitors anymore.

[YoloSwag]

On 7/7/2017 at 5:01 PM, S.Stephenson said:

Muh 1080ti SLI begs to differ....

Really? but can your 1080Ti give us Metalocalypse Season 5?

 

...don't think so.

 

On a real note, I think we'd see HDR10 monitors spread in the PC market before Season 5

[PocketNerd]

On 7/6/2017 at 10:54 PM, OriAr said:

FTFY.

I want a monitor that existing cards have the horsepower to provide a fitting frame rate.

 

Define "fitting frame rate"

Cause for me, there's plenty of cards capable of running games @ 4K/60fps. Some you may have to adjust settings though (managed expectations FTW!)

On topic: It's about damn time they started blurring the lines between a Monitor and a TV.