GTX 1080 TI on old X58. Can that run together?

[Intelfreak]

Im in the last state of a final upgrade on my X58 system before moving on to a new setup. I have al ready upgraded CPU from I7 920 to an I7 980X @ 4.25 GHz, from 6 to 12 GB ram triple channel and a bunch of SSD´s including an M.2 NVMe SSD. The last part is GPU. Right now i am using 2 x GTX 970 in SLI.

 

But since Nvidia has killed SLI on smaller cards so i cant afford two cards any more and want to try out single card configuration. I am really taking a liking to GTX 1080 TI. This GPU needs to hold up the last 2 years i exspec from X58 before moving on to newer plat form, but also want to upgrade because of i am running out of Vram on GTX 970 in some games and the fact that the last 0.5 GB ram has realy low brandwitch so that effect performence in some games.

 

But what do you guys thing of this. Am i exspecting to much from my old X58 to handle one GTX 1080 TI (it feeds GTX 970 just fine throw and thats like one GTX 1070/1080 performence whise)?

[The Sloth]

you will be bottlenecked 

[Princess Luna]

It is pointless you will limit the GPU potential too much to even feel an upgrade was made from your current 970 sli

[Jurrunio]

Upgrade your CPU, mobo and RAM first. I think a newer system should help you get more from the 970s.

[Suika]

Can it? Yes. Should it? Probably not. Such an old platform will reduce the performance of the GTX 1080 Ti by a lot.

 

If you plan on upgrading the platform in the near future, you may as well get the GPU now, but you definitely won't be utilizing 100% of it.

[Coaxialgamer]

It will run to be clear . However, while it will likely be a bottleneck , i don't think it'll be as severe as some put it . It's still heavily overclocked on 6 cores.

[Đỗ Đức Huy]

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/SpeedTest/1822/IntelR-CoreTM-i7-CPU-------X-980----333GHz

Bottle neck will happens if you plays at 1080p or less, if not then the GPU will be the bottle neck. Depends

[shadowbyte]

it'll be fine

X58 is still a wonderfully capable platform, and the 980x, despite its age, is still a 6 core chip at 4.5 ghz

 

[Intelfreak]

It looks like most of you guys agreed to that GTX 1080 Ti is not the smartest idea then. Would a GTX 1080 non TI still bottleneck or shut i just keep GTX 970 SLI and stop here?

 

Here is a couple of benchmark of my system if that can help?

 

 

Generel configuration as it is now minus my two WD velociraptors they choose to become unstable after 8 years of use so they are now un plugged so only 6 drives is in use now.

 

 

[bimmerman]

It won't run as well as if you had a 7700k or 1800X.....but the real question is whether ~20% lower framerates will matter to you.

 

The upside I see is that if you do go to a 1080ti from your 970 SLI system you can transfer the 1080 over to whatever newer platform you choose.

 

I'm in the same boat as you. I have a X5675 at 4.5GHz (6c/12t chip similar to your 980X), 24GB ram, and a dying R9 290. I either need a newer card or to build a newer system...one is $many and the other is $manyManyMore

 

Take a look at this article: https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/05/26/definitive_amd_ryzen_7_realworld_gaming_guide/13

 

i7-2600k vs Ryzen vs 7700k, with the overall conclusion being the old Sandy Bridge part still delivers competitively good performance at the various tested resolutions. The X58 chips are not as powerful as the i7-2600k, but only 10-20% given overclocking and other factors. What is very notable is that the Ryzen and i7-7700k systems are all on PCIE 3.0 x16 while the Sandy Bridge is PCIE 2.0 x16 (i.e. 3.0 x8), and still delivers good performance. CPU bottlenecking exists but is WAY less of an issue than people make it out to be. They tested 1080p, 1440p, and 4K with a number of different cards-- 1080ti down to Rx 480s. Very good test and goes against a lot of Forum Wisdom(TM). The 7700k is the clear winner, make no mistake, but it's not as massive of a difference as you'd expect.

 

 

[DoctorZeus]

1 hour ago, Intelfreak said:

Im in the last state of a final upgrade on my X58 system before moving on to a new setup. I have al ready upgraded CPU from I7 920 to an I7 980X @ 4.25 GHz, from 6 to 12 GB ram triple channel and a bunch of SSD´s including an M.2 NVMe SSD. The last part is GPU. Right now i am using 2 x GTX 970 in SLI.

 

But since Nvidia has killed SLI on smaller cards so i cant afford two cards any more and want to try out single card configuration. I am really taking a liking to GTX 1080 TI. This GPU needs to hold up the last 2 years i exspec from X58 before moving on to newer plat form, but also want to upgrade because of i am running out of Vram on GTX 970 in some games and the fact that the last 0.5 GB ram has realy low brandwitch so that effect performence in some games.

 

But what do you guys thing of this. Am i exspecting to much from my old X58 to handle one GTX 1080 TI (it feeds GTX 970 just fine throw and thats like one GTX 1070/1080 performence whise)?

I have a 1080 Ti and an x58 system with a x5675 @4.4ghz. 

 

This is my Timespy score. http://www.3dmark.com/spy/1512827

This is my Firestrike Score http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12251244

 

I recently added a Kraken G12 and an H100i V2 to my 1080 Ti so I Could get higher I think but that's a decent representation of what I get right now.

 

 

If you have any questions I can try to help you.

[MysticLTT]

There are many places on the internet, where x58 enthusiasts discuss that particular platform and they all report no problem with pairing 1080 Ti to 6 core Xeons. The only people who casually drop the bottleneck bomb, are the ones who are not familiar with the platform or think in terms of years (many years = old), or i5 owners. Same with PCIe 2.0 vs 3.0 talk.

[bimmerman]

Some data: Fallout 4, 4K resolution, 1080ti paired with an OCd i7-2600k, an OC 1700x, and an OCd 7700k.

 

The 2600k doesn't perform as well as the 7700, but is pretty much on par with the 1700X. I would expect the X58 chip to be slightly behind the 2600k, but-- more cores, so might not be all that different.

 

 

and Witcher 3 @ 4K, same stuff.

 

 

Lastly, Witcher 3 @ 1080p with a GTX 1060.

 

Older processors are really as bad as Forumites would have you believe.

 

source: the article I posted above.

[MilfShake]

The 970s are at only 1261Mhz clock. Try oc them to at least 1500Mhz. Most 970 should hit that easily. My old evga 970 ftw hit 1530Mhz stable

[MrJarhead]

Wow, your physics score for a cpu that old is mad, your 970s scored around the same as mine did in sli, and I have a 4790k. 

 

Judging by them scores I wouldn't see why there would be a bottleneck.

[DoctorZeus]

3 hours ago, Intelfreak said:

~snip~

 

My Card in my System

 

From GURU3d 1080 Ti Review:

 

[Intelfreak]

1 hour ago, MilfShake said:

The 970s are at only 1261Mhz clock. Try oc them to at least 1500Mhz. Most 970 should hit that easily. My old evga 970 ftw hit 1530Mhz stable

The are clokked to what is long therm stable in games. They boost them self up to 1436 mhz. Any thing near 1500 and driver crash short after in  any game. My 970 arent the bedst overclokkers.

[Princess Luna]

I would personally keep it as it is and only upgrade when Volta hits the market, then make a Coffee Lake + Volta build, a GTX 2080 will be faster than the 1080ti for cheaper after all and yes the 970 SLI is really good already.

[Intelfreak]

Its looks like after posting bench peoples answer has change for the better.

 

I think jugging from new answer an the fact that one has such thing running on x58 and have better score.

 

Gtx 1080 ti on x58 looks like it is a good idea and i will try it out.

[Princess Luna]

2 minutes ago, Intelfreak said:

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One thing worth mentioning before you do buy it is, what monitor do you own?

[Intelfreak]

2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

I would personally keep it as it is and only upgrade when Volta hits the market, then make a Coffee Lake + Volta build, a GTX 2080 will be faster than the 1080ti for cheaper after all and yes the 970 SLI is really good already.

if i shall make a new pc we are talking x299 or amd threadripper.

 

2000 serie is properly first in the new year and 1080 ti release only a few monfh a go so the replace ment for it is maybe up to a year a way and as told i running out of vram and that means bad performence.

 

But you are right if 970 had more vram its still a powerful setup but dosent help my ram trouble.

[Intelfreak]

2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

One thing worth mentioning before you do buy it is, what monitor do you own?

And old samsung 85 htz with pixels error so in a few monfh i am planning to get a 27 uhd monitor.

[Intelfreak]

43 minutes ago, MrJarhead said:

Wow, your physics score for a cpu that old is mad, your 970s scored around the same as mine did in sli, and I have a 4790k. 

 

Judging by them scores I wouldn't see why there would be a bottleneck.

Yes and that is also why so manny still rocks x58, cause despite its age perdormence is not that bad. I can tell that the i7 920 @ 4 ghz score around 10000 in physich i firestrike and thats a qoad-core cpu.