Der8auer hits 5.0GHz on i9-7900X with AIO water cooling

[PCGuy_5960]

4 minutes ago, Red Hardware said:

Hi

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I hadn't seen that... 

[done12many2]

I might have said this already, but them 6 and 8 core Skylake-X parts are going to be nasty fast.  

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, done12many2 said:

I might have said this already, but them 6 and 8 core Skylake-X parts are going to be nasty fast.  

Hell yeah! This is why I am going to upgrade to the 7800X or the 7820X.  

[suits]

So it's a 7700k with slightly better thermals before delid. No big deal. See you next time Intel.

[done12many2]

3 minutes ago, suits said:

So it's a 7700k with slightly better thermals before delid. No big deal. See you next time Intel.

 

If I had a 6800k, I'd be pissed too.  

 

If the new Skylake X 10 core can clock that high, the new 6 core should be pretty amazing.  

[TahoeDust]

Think this guy will be able to keep a 7820x under control?...

 

H115i with 4xNoiseblocker eLoop B14-PS

[done12many2]

1 minute ago, TahoeDust said:

Think this guy will be able to keep a 7820x under control?...

 

H115i with 4xNoiseblocker eLoop B14-PS

 

 

Sure it will.  Nice looking setup bud!

[TahoeDust]

1 minute ago, done12many2 said:

 

Sure it will.  Nice looking setup bud!

Thanks man!  Right now it has an old 2700k and p8z68 deluxe holding a spot for my soon to be 7820x and Strix x299-E.  

[Simon771]

5 hours ago, done12many2 said:

 

Regardless of how many cores a chip has, single-threaded performance is still very relevant to consumers.  After all, 90% of the stuff that we actually do throughout a day is single-threaded.  While we may use our chips for multi-threaded work loads, that doesn't mean that's all it does.  

 

Why would you want a chip that is great in multi-threading only, but sucks in single-threaded?

Because it's cheaper and I don't need to delid it, to stay under 80°C at stock  

Could be just my bad luck with i7 4790k ... don't want to flame on Intel too much.

But I won't understand why they didn't solder those new CPUs ... 18 core CPU and it won't be soldered? Sure that CPU won't be relevant to most users here, but then again there is 10 core CPU which users will be buying. I don't know ... I just don't understand it why they didn't soldered it like they used to.

 

And for 1440p or 4K gaming at up to 90fps, you won't see difference between Ryzen and Intel in most cases. So it also depends what games are you playing and what fps you won't to have

 

When will you buy X299 platform? Can't wait for you to buy all the CPUs from X299 lineup, and test them all

[suits]

24 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

If I had a 6800k, I'd be pissed too.  

 

If the new Skylake X 10 core can clock that high, the new 6 core should be pretty amazing.  

I mean i've got a 7700k at 5.2 a 6800k at 4.4 and a R7 1700 at 4.0. I'm pretty good for now. If the 6 and 8 cores can truly clock that high then yeah that's a game changer but we don't have proof of that yet.

[AnonymousGuy]

I'll probably be cherry picking my chips anyways 

[done12many2]

4 minutes ago, suits said:

I mean i've got a 7700k at 5.2 a 6800k at 4.4 and a R7 1700 at 4.0. I'm pretty good for now. If the 6 and 8 cores can truly clock that high then yeah that's a game changer but we don't have proof of that yet.

 

Then why make the comment you did if we don't know anything?  LTT way, right?  After all, we don't know if it's a game changer or not.  

[suits]

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[done12many2]

1 minute ago, suits said:

 

 

Because this thread is about the 7900k 4 core processor hitting 4.8 on water without a delid. And calling it "amazing". It's not amazing. It's a 7700k in the middle of the silicon lottery.

 

I've got a 5.3 GHz 7700k myself.  A 10 core doing 5 GHz is pretty amazing.  

[done12many2]

54 minutes ago, Simon771 said:

Because it's cheaper and I don't need to delid it, to stay under 80°C at stock  

Could be just my bad luck with i7 4790k ... don't want to flame on Intel too much.

 

You see I like your honest answers bud.  It's just that too many people have started telling themselves other things instead of just being honest.  There's a sacrifice to be made one way or another.  You either spend more money or save, but each has their drawbacks.  Too many people would have you believe that you can have your cake and eat it too.

 

54 minutes ago, Simon771 said:

But I won't understand why they didn't solder those new CPUs ... 18 core CPU and it won't be soldered? Sure that CPU won't be relevant to most users here, but then again there is 10 core CPU which users will be buying. I don't know ... I just don't understand it why they didn't soldered it like they used to.

Not that soldering seems to have made much of a difference in Haswell-E, Broadwell-E and now Skylake-X, but we still don't know for sure if the HCC parts will be solder or not.  Everyone is assuming not, but everyone also thought Skylake-X overclocking would suck.  

 

54 minutes ago, Simon771 said:

And for 1440p or 4K gaming at up to 90fps, you won't see difference between Ryzen and Intel in most cases. So it also depends what games are you playing and what fps you won't to have

 

Absolutely correct.  If you don't need and more CPU performance, you don't need it.  

54 minutes ago, Simon771 said:

When will you buy X299 platform? Can't wait for you to buy all the CPUs from X299 lineup, and test them all

 

If it releases on the 26th of this month, I'll pick it up on the 26th.  

[PCGuy_5960]

1 hour ago, done12many2 said:

If I had a 6800k, I'd be pissed too.  

If I had a 6800K, wait something ain't right here! The 5820K is better

[Simon771]

51 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

You see I like your honest answers bud.  It's just that too many people have started telling themselves other things instead of just being honest.  There's a sacrifice to be made one way or another.  You either spend more money or save, but each has their drawbacks.  Too many people would have you believe that you can have your cake and eat it too.

 

Not that soldering seems to have made much of a difference in Haswell-E, Broadwell-E and now Skylake-X, but we still don't know for sure if the HCC parts will be solder or not.  Everyone is assuming not, but everyone also thought Skylake-X overclocking would suck.  

 

 

Absolutely correct.  If you don't need and more CPU performance, you don't need it.  

 

If it releases on the 26th of this month, I'll pick it up on the 26th.  

Yeah I'm proud owner of R7 1700, but it's not a perfect chip. Single core performance isn't anywhere near Intel latest generation. But it depends on your needs, if you need that. It seems like I don't rely on single core performance in 99% of the cases, so it's working great for me.

If Intel would release soldered 8c/16t CPU for 400€ and motherboard for 150€ to work with it ... that would be great

 

Which CPU(s) will you buy?

[done12many2]

1 minute ago, Simon771 said:

Yeah I'm proud owner of R7 1700, but it's not a perfect chip. Single core performance isn't anywhere near Intel latest generation. But it depends on your needs, if you need that. It seems like I don't rely on single core performance in 99% of the cases, so it's working great for me.

If Intel would release soldered 8c/16t CPU for 400€ and motherboard for 150€ to work with it ... that would be great

 

Which CPU(s) will you buy?

 

I was going to get a 7900X and a 7740X, but with new of possible high 4's or even 5 GHz with delidding on the 7900X combined with my big loop, I may just get the 7900X.  That's the biggest thing available at launch so I'll have to wait for the 7980XE.  

[PCGuy_5960]

12 minutes ago, Simon771 said:

If Intel would release soldered 8c/16t CPU for 400€ and motherboard for 150€ to work with it ... that would be great

Yeah, I don't think they will

9 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

I was going to get a 7900X and a 7740X, but with new of possible high 4's or even 5 GHz with delidding on the 7900X combined with my big loop, I may just get the 7900X.  That's the biggest thing available at launch so I'll have to wait for the 7980XE.  

But the 7740X may be able to do 5.5GHz

[Taf the Ghost]

I see the Intel marketing team is working hard to fix the launch problems, so I guess that's good.

 

These are effectively 10 core versions of the 7700k. Performance will be about 2.3x better than whatever previous testing the 7700k would toss up.  With roughly the same amount of increase in power usage. People had stable OC's on the Broadwell-E chips into the high 4 Ghz range. So getting over 5 Ghz is, I guess, a feat.

 

Also, I see the AVX2 & AVX-512 talking point is back.  For those of us that lived through the SSE vs MMX period, let's just say it's still a stupid talking point.

[PCGuy_5960]

8 minutes ago, Tedny said:

ok, how many programs can use 10core on 5Ghz and how isn't that cheaper to find 12+ core xeon?

You can bet that a 5GHz 10 core would beat a 3GHz 12 core

[done12many2]

8 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

These are effectively 10 core versions of the 7700k. Performance will be about 2.3x better than whatever previous testing the 7700k would toss up.  With roughly the same amount of increase in power usage. People had stable OC's on the Broadwell-E chips into the high 4 Ghz range. So getting over 5 Ghz is, I guess, a feat.

 

I'm pretty sure no one "had stable OC's on the Broadwell-E chips into the high 4 Ghz range".  Averages for Broadwell-E were far lower then Haswell-E, but BWE had the advantage of IPC.

 

With that said, a 10 Core Skylake X chip hitting 5 GHz stable with improved IPC while doing so with an AIO is a feat.  

 

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Also, I see the AVX2 & AVX-512 talking point is back.  For those of us that lived through the SSE vs MMX period, let's just say it's still a stupid talking point.

 

Very relevant if you're running AVX type work loads.  

[PCGuy_5960]

8 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

People had stable OC's on the Broadwell-E chips into the high 4 Ghz range.

Lol, no:

http://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/core_i7_6950x/

Average OC for 6950X:

Air: 4.193GHZ

Water: 4.314GHz

[done12many2]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Lol, no:

http://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/core_i7_6950x/

Average OC for 6950X:

Air: 4.193GHZ

Water: 4.314GHz

 

Now lets just say that average for the 7900x only went up to 4.4 on air and 4.6 on water, combine that with the IPC bump and we have one hell of a 10 core chip.

 

If you happen to get a hold of a "golden" chip and delid it, 5 GHz with 10 cores would be damn impressive.  

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, done12many2 said:

Now lets just say that average for the 7900x only went up to 4.4 on air and 4.6 on water, combine that with the IPC bump and we have one hell of a 10 core chip.

 

If you happen to get a hold of a "golden" chip and delid it, 5 GHz with 10 cores would be damn impressive.  

It's even more impressive if you take into account that the 6950X had to be cooled with LN2 to get to 5GHz