Intel to Launch 18-Core/36-Thread "Core i9-7980XE" Skylake-X CPU

[Dylanc1500]

4 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

 

What am I missing? Give me a heads up, please. I can't watch it right now.

[byalexandr]

Intel must be really scared

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, Dylanc1500 said:

What am I missing? Give me a heads up, please. I can't watch it right now.

ITX sized socket

[dexT]

17 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

I think I may go with the ROG Rampage VI Apex this time.  I was dead set on the Extreme base on having wanted one for x99, but the better performance from the 4 slot quad channel DIMMs as opposed to the 8 slots is appealing.  I like the support for 4 x M.2 (RAID on Intel Extreme finally) via the 2 x DIMM slots specifically for M.2s.  Then there's the fact that the Apex is going to be cheaper then the Extreme if it's anything similar to the z270 breakdown.     

Should be $200-$300 cheaper than a REX. I want the Apex.

[Dylanc1500]

3 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

ITX sized socket

Well maybe it'll get motherboard makers to bring back XL-ATX.

[done12many2]

2 minutes ago, Dylanc1500 said:

Well maybe it'll get motherboard makers to bring back XL-ATX.

 

Asus' Extreme board for Threadripper looks fantastic as well.  Definitely not the ITX form factor that you suggested that socket would be appropriate for, but it's the most badass AMD board I've seen yet.  

 

Man, we are getting some insane options now!!

[PCGuy_5960]

6 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

but it's the most badass AMD board I've seen yet.

With one of the most stupid names ever, "Zenith Extreme"

[done12many2]

2 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

With one of the most stupid names ever, "Zenith Extreme"

 

I know.  The name reminds me of really old tube TVs from decades ago.  

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

20 minutes ago, Dylanc1500 said:

What am I missing? Give me a heads up, please. I can't watch it right now.

 

That's AMD stuff

 

Just imagine your standard HEDT mobo with a different looking socket

[Dylanc1500]

3 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

I know.  Then name reminds me of really old tube TVs from decades ago.  

Hopefully it doesn't end up like Zenith.

[done12many2]

Just now, Dylanc1500 said:

Hopefully it doesn't end up like Zenith.

 

As good as that damn board looks, I doubt it.  Asus really pulled that off with everything, but the name.  Boards like that will definitely help sway HEDT folks into considering AMD HEDT as well.  

[Dylanc1500]

6 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

As good as that damn board looks, I doubt it.  Asus really pulled that off with everything, but the name.  Boards like that will definitely help sway HEDT folks into considering AMD HEDT as well.  

Hopefully I can leave this GOD DAMN BOARDROOM! So I can go home and can actually get some work done and take a look at some of these fresh goodies and throw my money away.

 

Sorry about that. Listening to people spew stuff about clients they nothing about, is a little less than exciting.

[Notional]

Man Semi accurate is tearing Intel a new one: http://semiaccurate.com/2017/05/30/intel-announces-x-series-without-details/

[The Benjamins]

4 minutes ago, Notional said:

Man Semi accurate is tearing Intel a new one: http://semiaccurate.com/2017/05/30/intel-announces-x-series-without-details/

some valid points, it would be funny if RT has more PCIe at each core tier, we already know it has a max of 64 which is 20 more then intel. (it can run 4 at 16x or 8 at 8x easily.)

[Notional]

Just now, The Benjamins said:

some valid points, it would be funny if RT has more PCIe at each core tier, we already know it has a max of 64 which is 20 more then intel. (it can run 4 at 16x or 8 at 8x easily.)

Indeed. It's just quite odd. Obviously, Intel cannot maintain their insane profit margins pre ryzen era, but now they not only continue their insane pricing, but they act like there is even less competition. The 4 core parts are an outright ripoff in every way, and I'm sure it will result in a class action lawsuit down the line. Hey, buy this x299 mobo at more than twice the cost. It has twice the ram channels and slots (not supported in 4 core cpu's), and all these amazing pcie slots and U.2 stuff (half won't work at all or work at a much much lower speed on 4 core cpu's). Utterly bonkers to see those parts even exist.

[The Benjamins]

2 minutes ago, Notional said:

Indeed. It's just quite odd. Obviously, Intel cannot maintain their insane profit margins pre ryzen era, but now they not only continue their insane pricing, but they act like there is even less competition. The 4 core parts are an outright ripoff in every way, and I'm sure it will result in a class action lawsuit down the line. Hey, buy this x299 mobo at more than twice the cost. It has twice the ram channels and slots (not supported in 4 core cpu's), and all these amazing pcie slots and U.2 stuff (half won't work at all or work at a much much lower speed on 4 core cpu's). Utterly bonkers to see those parts even exist.

I find the x299 a huge disappointment after getting info about RT.

what I am not happy with.

Not soldered

Pricing

PCIe lanes

 

 

it does have some advantages like having 18 cores and a smaller socket (I don't think RT can fit on a ITX board) but that to me does not out weight the advantages RT seems to bring.

 

it is funny how the 14,16,18 core parts were originally not in the slides lol.

[Lays]

4 hours ago, tom_w141 said:

Price to Performance is a thing. Threadripper will still do very very well if say it is $1000 and <40% worse than the 18 core i9. Double the cost for far less than double the performance? This is how threadripper will still succeed despite Intel's offering.

I agree and just chiming in with the X299 motherboards I'm at work so I haven't seen many yet but I saw an EVGA one with like RBG "crackles" and now I need to go to the doctors because I may have cancer

The main thing these will be aimed at are probably people building insane over the top systems that want the best in every regard, a lot of those people don't seem to give a damn about price to performance.  People worried about budgets probably won't be looking at over $1000 cpu's

[Notional]

1 hour ago, The Benjamins said:

I find the x299 a huge disappointment after getting info about RT.

what I am not happy with.

Not soldered

Pricing

PCIe lanes

 

 

it does have some advantages like having 18 cores and a smaller socket (I don't think RT can fit on a ITX board) but that to me does not out weight the advantages RT seems to bring.

 

it is funny how the 14,16,18 core parts were originally not in the slides lol.

PCI lanes require a higher pin count, so a larger socket is necessary. Wouldn't surprise me is Asrock managed to cram that thing onto an ITX board at some point 

 

But yeah, Intel got caught with their pants down. Maybe they thought Ryzen 8 core was the biggest chip, and didn't know about Epyc/threadripper? Anyways semiaccurate just tore Intel a new one the size of a 9/11 conspiracy:

 

http://semiaccurate.com/2017/05/30/intel-announces-x-series-without-details/

 

Intel seems completely dazed and confused after an uppercut sucker punch. But this just shows how insanely overpriced Intel CPU's have been for more than half a decade.

 

Edit: Yeah I just posted the same link 2 posts in a row. Epic derp.

[The Benjamins]

1 minute ago, Notional said:

PCI lanes require a higher pin count, so a larger socket is necessary. Wouldn't surprise me is Asrock managed to cram that thing onto an ITX board at some point 

 

But yeah, Intel got caught with their pants down. Maybe they thought Ryzen 8 core was the biggest chip, and didn't know about Epyc/threadripper? Anyways semiaccurate just tore Intel a new one the size of a 9/11 conspiracy:

 

http://semiaccurate.com/2017/05/30/intel-announces-x-series-without-details/

 

Intel seems completely dazed and confused after an uppercut sucker punch. But this just shows how insanely overpriced Intel CPU's have been for more than half a decade.

They seem to know about Epyc becasue they released some new xeons with upto 32 cores. but Threadripper has seemed to blind side them. 

[Notional]

Just now, The Benjamins said:

They seem to know about Epyc becasue they released some new xeons with upto 32 cores. but Threadripper has seemed to blind side them. 

Yeah you are probably right. Epyc has been talked about for quite a while. But no one (including me), thought they would bring such a gigantic socket to consumer space.

[tom_w141]

Just now, The Benjamins said:

They seem to know about Epyc becasue they released some new xeons with upto 32 cores. but Threadripper has seemed to blind side them. 

Good, nice to see them reel from the nut punch. Hopefully they come back strong in 2018 with good products at competitive pricing, rather than trying to milk the consumer as much as they do. When you start to look at their margins it is really criminal.

[tom_w141]

3 hours ago, done12many2 said:

 

As good as that damn board looks, I doubt it.  Asus really pulled that off with everything, but the name.  Boards like that will definitely help sway HEDT folks into considering AMD HEDT as well.  

Damn that is a beautiful board.... WANT

 

I'm hoping to see some better X299 boards. So far I've seen the EVGA ones meh and *vomits rgb*. The Gigabyte gaming ones look ok but not brilliant. Looking forward to Asus' boards.

 

EDIT: Rampage VI extreme looks badass, is it just me or are Asus dominating the mobo's this year??

[GDRRiley]

On 5/29/2017 at 6:33 AM, Dylanc1500 said:

They had this in development far before AMDs release. This wasn't a response, this was a confirmation.

no they just look to be rebranded xeons intel already had planned 

[SansVarnic]

Since Star Citizen is a multi-cpu game I will probably be picking up one of these in the near-ish future.

[Taf the Ghost]

2 hours ago, GDRRiley said:

no they just look to be rebranded xeons intel already had planned 

Considering they haven't actually released most of the high-core count Xeons on Skylake-X, that's far & away what seems to have happened.  Threadripper seems to have only been confirmed inside AMD somewhere in late 2016.  It's why even the Rumors didn't start until really late. (It was never on their roadmaps.) The early yield & performance results seem to have pushed them to compete in the HEDT market.

 

Intel's response on the X299 platform definitely shows they were spooked by TR's existence. They've repackaged two Kaby Lake CPUs to build a marketing reason to buy onto the platform and binned a bunch of Xeon's for a top-end line.  While at the same time dropping the 10c part's price by around 40%. That's a clear sign they realize the days of getting away with super high-margins is over. (It's also probably why we saw them give away so many of the 10c chips to reviewers. They were sending SSD samples that probably cost them more.)