$1,000 Budget PC Build Guide

[Speaker1264]

4 hours ago, Mindstab Thrull said:

@herman mcpootis I agree it's a much better build. But it doesn't take into account any be quiet! parts, which is what a lot of people seem to be ignoring - they sponsored the build, after all. A lot of people seem to be taking that direction, which in general makes sense, but in this instance is a lot more difficult. What can you come up with that takes the sponsor into account?

Then it isn't a $1000 budget build. It is a $1000 be quiet build and the video should have been named as such.

[Streetguru]

21 minutes ago, Speaker1264 said:

 

I'd say 16gbs of RAM is the new minimum

and that's a fairly low end PSU

 

could get that by dropping the SSD naturally

[Speaker1264]

23 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

I'd say 16gbs of RAM is the new minimum

and that's a fairly low end PSU

 

could get that by dropping the SSD naturally

Yeah, I could have also dropped the cooler and stuck with the stock one, since it is pretty decent.  But I think for the money this is still far better value than the system that Linus was suggesting...

[borus87]

Doesn't the B150 chipset limit ram to 2133?

[genexis_x]

1 hour ago, borus87 said:

Doesn't the B150 chipset limit ram to 2133?

Yes but any RAM speed higher than that will work just fine

[Deusrex]

I understand that you guys have to make money, but I have a big problem with this build video and I think it comes down to if I went over to a family members house and they showed me this computer and said someone sold it to them for say $1200 (a system builder has to make money) I would think they got ripped off. Mostly because of the extremely limited upgrade path. This feels like the sort of computer that someone built to force you to buy a new computer rather than upgrading your own.

 

Furthermore the bequite! parts you used are fine but they do not fit this price point, you know they don't, and you never addressed that in the video. This feels dishonest, and I normally really respect your content, but this was disappointing to say the least.

[flamea]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hDcqJV

Easy. 

[Godlygamer23]

An ESD wrist strap will do nothing if it's on your sock. 

[Deusrex]

18 minutes ago, flamea said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hDcqJV

Easy. 

This would not work for the video because it was sponsored, I honestly think the problem with this video was the price point more than the parts selection. It should have been a $1500 build that would have given enough head room to use parts equivalent in price point to the be quite parts used.

[Pandora51]

Most of the time even your sponsered content is reasonable and makes sense.. Unlike this one. The choice of parts for this particular price point is not good.

1500 dollar build and everything would be fine.

 

Products from BeQuit! are very high quality which disqualifies them for a build where 100 dollar decides between an acceptable cpu/gpu and a very good cpu/gpu.

 

[Tyranade]

I believe it was mentioned in the Flotplane Club that the reason this isn't using Ryzen parts is because the planning of this build log pre-dated Ryzen so the people complaining about the lack of Ryzen thats the reason why.

[Deusrex]

35 minutes ago, Tyranade said:

I believe it was mentioned in the Flotplane Club that the reason this isn't using Ryzen parts is because the planning of this build log pre-dated Ryzen so the people complaining about the lack of Ryzen thats the reason why.

The problems with this video go way beyond not using Ryzen. The motherboard costs less than a the case it's being put in. Have you ever built a pc where the case was more expensive than your motherboard?

[79wjd]

5 minutes ago, Deusrex said:

Have you ever built a pc where the case was more expensive than your motherboard?

Yes. You don't need an expensive motherboard for a locked cpu (although a 7500 at $1000 is still terrible, and a b150 board is risky with a Kaby Lake CPU), but a lot of people want a case that looks nice whereas the motherboard will have virtually no impact.

[Deusrex]

Just now, djdwosk97 said:

Yes. You don't need an expensive motherboard for a locked cpu (although a 7500 at $1000 is still terrible, and a b150 board is risky with a Kaby Lake CPU), but a lot of people want a case that looks nice. 

Let me put it a different way, the besrbones you need for this pc to work (CPU, memory, mobo, and storage) comes to about $500 you're telling with that budget of components picked you're going to seriously suggest they spend $250 on the case, cooler, and PSU? You feel that'd be the best use of the budget?

[79wjd]

3 minutes ago, Deusrex said:

Let me put it a different way, the besrbones you need for this pc to work (CPU, memory, mobo, and storage) comes to about $500 you're telling with that budget of components picked you're going to seriously suggest they spend $250 on the case, cooler, and PSU? You feel that'd be the best use of the budget?

A) it was sponsored by BeQuiet!. 

B) I think this build sucks, hence my builds in literally the first post of this thread. 

C) I think a good case is worthwhile spending money on because it's the thing you see every time you use your computer, and I've cheaped out on a case before (it was still a decent case -- N200) and I upgraded it shortly thereafter and ended up spending far more than just getting a nice case in the first place.

[Princess Luna]

17 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

although a 7500 at $1000 is still terrible, and a b150 board is risky with a Kaby Lake CPU

If it was a h110m + i7 7700 I could have somewhat forgiven the build, they should totally remove the "guide" from the title as it only guides people into mistake

[Princess Luna]

5 hours ago, ZM Fong said:

Yes but any RAM speed higher than that will work just fine

ZM, That's not true, h110m / b150/250 motherboards only support up to 2400mhz, even though the processor could work with higher frequency, only the h170/270 z170/270 have XMP to overclock memory to the 2400mhz+ margin.

 

Then again yes it would work.... but wasting the ram potential.

[NumLock21]

5 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

ZM, That's not true, h110m / b150/250 motherboards only support up to 2400mhz, even though the processor could work with higher frequency, only the h170/270 z170/270 have XMP to overclock memory to the 2400mhz+ margin.

 

Then again yes it would work.... but wasting the ram potential.

Wrong info

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, NumLock21 said:

Wrong info

What's wrong? elaborate would be nice but I'm fairly sure that's all correct aside that some h boards only do up to 2133mhz, @MageTank would certainly kill any doubt towards the subject though.

[Deusrex]

6 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

A) it was sponsored by BeQuiet!. 

B) I think this build sucks, hence my builds in literally the first post of this thread. 

C) I think a good case is worthwhile spending money on because it's the thing you see every time you use your computer, and I've cheaped out on a case before (it was still a decent case -- N200) and I upgraded it shortly thereafter and ended up spending far more than just getting a nice case in the first place.

be quite! sponsoring the video doesn't absolve them from putting out misleading information. The whole point of a video like this is to help newbies build their first PC. If this was the first video I saw and was convinced that this was the best way to spend my $1000 for my first build I would be pissed when I later learned it was a horrible build.

 

Don't get me wrong, most of the time first time builds are a trian wreak, but they don't need (likely unintentionally) misleading information on top of inexperience. 

 

This is why I am upset about this video, I've pointed to LTT for people to get honest information about pc hardware and building advice and this video reeks of dishonesty.

[genexis_x]

13 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

yes it would work.... but wasting the ram potential.

this^^^^

is what I mean

[79wjd]

1 minute ago, Deusrex said:

be quite! sponsoring the video doesn't absolve them from putting out misleading information. The whole point of a video like this is to help newbies build their first PC. If this was the first video I saw and was convinced that this was the best way to spend my $1000 for my first build I would be pissed when I later learned it was a horrible build.

 

Don't get me wrong, most of the time first time builds are a trian wreak, but they don't need (likely unintentionally) misleading information on top of inexperience. 

 

This is why I am upset about this video, I've pointed to LTT for people to get honest information about pc hardware and building advice and this video reeks of dishonesty.

How many times do I have to say that I think this build sucks too.....but not because of an expensive case. 

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, ZM Fong said:

this^^^^

is what I mean

Oh very well [:

[Deusrex]

1 minute ago, djdwosk97 said:

How many times do I have to say that I think this build sucks.....

Once, I'm not trying to say you think it's good. Just trying to explain, it being "bad" isn't my problem with the build, rather the fact it's being portrayed as good. In so far as it being a good value.

[79wjd]

1 minute ago, Deusrex said:

Once, I'm not trying to say you think it's good. Just trying to explain, it being "bad" isn't my problem with the build, rather the fact it's being portrayed as good. In so far as it being a good value.

Yeah, the title should just be "BeQuiet Sponsored Build Guide" or something like that.