$1,000 Budget PC Build Guide

[NumLock21]

Just now, Princess Cadence said:

What's wrong? elaborate would be nice but I'm fairly sure that's all correct aside that some h boards only do up to 2133mhz, @MageTank would certainly kill any doubt towards the subject though.

• Official ram speed for skylake is 2133
• Official ram speed for kabylake is 2400
• Skylake chipset runs at 2133, except for z170, it can run at 2133 and higher
• Kabylake chipset runs at 2400, except for z270, it can run at 2400 or higher.
• Skylake cpu on skylake chipset runs at 2133. On kabylake chipset it's also limited to 2133. Only the z170 and z270, will let it run at speeds above 2133
• Kabylale cpu on skylake chipset is limited to 2133. On its own kabylake chipset it runs at 2400. Only z170 and z270, can run it at 2400 and higher
• XMP is supported on all chipsets.
• Only z170 and z270 will run the ram at the advertised specs and timings.
• All other chipsets will set the correct ram timings, but limited the ram speed to the maximum allowed by that chipset and cpu

 

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, NumLock21 said:

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But this is basically what I said, you just made it detailed as I should have at first to avoid the discussion

[geo3]

18 hours ago, Streetguru said:

Guys I'm pretty sure that a Ryzen 5 1600 is a better overall choice than an i5 any day of the week

An OCed 7600k is a better choice for purely a gaming machine. 

[79wjd]

8 minutes ago, geo3 said:

An OCed 7600k is a better choice for purely a gaming machine. 

Until you look at minimums or more than a year out.

[NumLock21]

35 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

ZM, That's not true, h110m / b150/250 motherboards only support up to 2400mhz, even though the processor could work with higher frequency, only the h170/270 z170/270 have XMP to overclock memory to the 2400mhz+ margin.

 

Then again yes it would work.... but wasting the ram potential.

 

11 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

But this is basically what I said, you just made it detailed as I should have at first to avoid the discussion

No it isn't.

• H110 and B150 is limited to 2133. It does not run at 2400. 
• H170 and H270 supports XMP,  but it's limited to the highest speed their set at. For H170 it's 2133, H270 it's 2400. Both cannot go any higher than what they are limited to. Running XMP will just set the ram the correct timings based on the xmp profile, but limit the ram to the chipset it's running on.

H110, B150, H170 = 2133 only, xmp only at 2133.

Z170 = 2133 and higher. Xmp at your ram's advertised specs

 

B250, H270 = 2133 and 2400

Xmp at 2133 only for skylake, 2400 only for kabylake

Z270 at 2133 and 2400 and higher. Xmp at the ram advertised specs.

 

 

 

 

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, NumLock21 said:

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Again it is exactly what I meant I just didn't specify, basically the non OC boards won't go higher than 2400mhz, that's all I wanted to say in a very general way, I really don't get why you're trying to argue so much.

[NumLock21]

13 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Again it is exactly what I meant I just didn't specify, basically the non OC boards won't go higher than 2400mhz, that's all I wanted to say in a very general way, I really don't get why you're trying to argue so much.

I'm not arguing

I'm correcting your wrong information.

 

[Princess Luna]

Just now, NumLock21 said:

I'm not arguing

I'm correcting your wrong information.

 

It wasn't wrong it was just broad as the matter was never being dead accurate, just that using a 3000mhz+ ram on a board that only supports up to 2400 would be a waste

[NumLock21]

29 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

It wasn't wrong it was just broad as the matter was never being dead accurate, just that using a 3000mhz+ ram on a board that only supports up to 2400 would be a waste

So h110 and b150 runs up to 2400? Hey if you want to be broad with your information, at least do it correctly, so those who are new at this, won't be misled by your misinformed post.

[Princess Luna]

21 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

So h110 and b150 runs up to 2400? Hey if you want to be broad with your information, at least do it correctly, so those who are new at this, won't be misled by your misinformed post.

It was direct to ZM which we already even ceased the subject, I just wanted to make sure He knows that potentially such boards wouldn't take advantage further from 2400mhz, this is not a thread where OP is asking specific guidance in RAM, you're making a storm on a cup of water solely to try feeling superior by correcting what didn't even require to be correct, I'm very disappointed at you really.

[NumLock21]

11 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

It was direct to ZM which we already even ceased the subject, I just wanted to make sure He knows that potentially such boards wouldn't take advantage further from 2400mhz, this is not a thread where OP is asking specific guidance in RAM, you're making a storm on a cup of water solely to try feeling superior by correcting what didn't even require to be correct, I'm very disappointed at you really.

So on LTT trying to give the correct info, is called being superior then.

If I was to feel superior, I would have already boast about what I do. Instead I know no matter what, there will always be others who are better or know a bit more, so I won't.

 

Back to the builds. while $1k on the parts seems meh. It could be they went with a single merchant?

[VoidJasper]

31 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

So on LTT trying to give the correct info, is called being superior then.

If I was to feel superior, I would have already boast about what I do. Instead I know no matter what, there will always be others who are better or know a bit more, so I won't.

 

Back to the builds. while $1k on the parts seems meh. It could be they went with a single merchant?

Check out this pre built for $1000 by bestbuy with the same GPU but beefed up CPU and this one includes a gaming mouse a gaming keyboard and controllable RGB. Its sad a prebuilt pc from bestbuy has better cost efficency than a pc built by a professional pc builder. LTT is becoming unreliable

rx 480 4gb

windows 10 

Ryzen 7 1700

16gb ddr4

1tb Hdd

RGB LIGHTING

gaming keyboard

gaming mouse

[NumLock21]

2 minutes ago, VoidJasper said:

Check out this pre built for $1000 by bestbuy with the same GPU but beefed up CPU and this one includes a gaming mouse a gaming keyboard and controllable RGB. Its sad a prebuilt pc from bestbuy has better cost efficency than a pc built by a professional pc builder. LTT is becoming unreliable

rx 480 4gb

windows 10 

Ryzen 7 1700

16gb ddr4

1tb Hdd

RGB LIGHTING

gaming keyboard

gaming mouse

Ryzen did not exist when that video was made.

I went to BB and saw one of those machines in display. the video card was pulled so tight by the PCIe cables, the card was sagging like hell.

[VoidJasper]

8 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

Ryzen did not exist when that video was made.

I went to BB and saw one of those machines in display. the video card was pulled so tight by the PCIe cables, the card was sagging like hell.

I forgot about that. Yeah you can definitely expect shotty work from bb lmao, that sounds like a nightmare waiting to happen. Check out the 2nd build in the picture it uses almost the exact same hardware as linus used and is almost $200 cheaper

its got an i5 7400

[79wjd]

1 minute ago, VoidJasper said:

Check out the 2nd build in the picture it uses almost the exact same hardware as linus used and is almost $200 cheaper

its got an i5 7400

The second build also has double the RAM, an HDD (albeit a smaller SSD), and Windows 10. 

[NumLock21]

1 minute ago, VoidJasper said:

I forgot about that. Yeah you can definitely expect shotty work from bb lmao, that sounds like a nightmare waiting to happen. Check out the 2nd build in the picture it uses almost the exact same hardware as linus used and is almost $200 cheaper

To be fair BB don't make those machines. They just sell them, the shoddy work is done by whatever brand that's slapped onto that case. Linu's build has a 240GB and a tempered glass case.  That one only has a 120GB and a acrylic side panel window.

[VoidJasper]

3 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

The second build also has double the RAM, an HDD (albeit a smaller SSD), and Windows 10. 

Dont forget the free 6 month internet security subscription it comes with by trend micro lmao.

 

2 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

To be fair BB don't make those machines. They just sell them, the shoddy work is done by whatever brand that's slapped onto that case. Linu's build has a 240GB and a tempered glass case.  That one only has a 120GB and a acrylic side panel window.

I wasn't aware of that, i always thought they had the geek squad assemble some.

Honestly i stopped watching the video after i saw him put a rx 480 in a $1000 budget build so i didnt recall all the specifications but im just trying to show linus just built a pc thats almost no better than a prebuilt computer.

[Mothballs]

A 7500 when the R5 1600 exists is probably the dumbest thing I've seen.

 

Mind you, it's pretty clear this was recorded a while ago. Regardless, I was watching and listening and trying to figure out what the heck the rationale for still putting it out without even mentioning Ryzen was.

 

Also, couldn't help but notice Ryzen was conspicuously missing from the Windows Game Mode video, though I'm pretty sure it would still tell you that that mode is garbage. 

 

General feeling though is not particularly thrilled.

[NumLock21]

15 minutes ago, VoidJasper said:

Dont forget the free 6 month internet security subscription it comes with by trend micro lmao.

 

I wasn't aware of that, i always thought they had the geek squad assemble some.

Honestly i stopped watching the video after i saw him put a rx 480 in a $1000 budget build so i didnt recall all the specifications but im just trying to show linus just built a pc thats almost no better than a prebuilt computer.

I don't think geek squad assemble machines that's being sold at the store. It's mostly name brands and they're already pre-built when it arrives.

[XHAD]

why not build from the viewer's choice PC build and go from there? I mean I know it is a sponsor but why not do another video using parts from this listings-

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1f6C3JFH8_HeF3bVK-WlIxD8JKXbEJIUf9dMGhzXqHAY/edit#gid=0

(taken from take my money build)

Do downgrades on overkill parts, swap out for AMD ryzen. 

[Rotbart]

That build guide makes me sad! Over the last years Linus amongst others tought us things like "always choose the OC CPU" or "only go overkill if you have the money (unless it's RGB)" and this guide breaks with all the logic.
That said I chose several beQuiet! components myself when I did a 1000$ build last year, simply because I hate noise (That said Pure Wings are crap and I upgraded to NF-F12s from Noctua). But even inside the budged I was able to get a 6600K, a proper Z170 motherboard and had I opted for a cheaper case (used the Silent Base 600) I could've gotten an OC GTX 970 (didn't need it).

If you do videos like that please choose a logic price target, like 2000$ in this case and build a truly awesome aircooled system.

[DoctorWho1975]

It used to be a YouTuber techy being married to Intel and/or NVidia was no big deal. Now that Ryzen is out, and competes well with Intel that is no longer the case.. and the longer the marriage is in place, more they will be getting called on it.

[Space Reptile]

5 hours ago, geo3 said:

An OCed 7600k is a better choice for purely a gaming machine. 

if you do nothing but gaming , that includes no streaming , no watching YouTube , no other programs in the background 

[tom_w141]

20 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

With all respect, this is probably one of the worse 1000$ build there is

 

I'm disappointed at LTT for not making this a serious ryzen 1600 based build, I mean me and every one else here on the forum are educating the newbies on daily basis to avoid the i5 since it is outdated and already bottlenecking higher end GPUs due to its very limiting 4 threads only, showing extensively how people should go for either the i7 7700 locked or ryzen 5 1600 on the same price range and then Linus himself goes and advise people further into mistake... a bit disappointing.

 

Although I'm kinda glad you guys quit telling people to overclock the i5 at least... I suppose baby steps into getting your advising better.

Yeah but then Intel might get mad and take their money/toys away.

 

Tbh i nearly fell off my chair when I saw a non Nvidia GPU  probably due to the fact there was absolutely no budget left and a 1050Ti would have been disastrous.

 

#LinusShillTips

[tom_w141]

Things wrong with this video:

 

An i5 instead of an R5 in 2017

A case that uses 10% of the overall budget

Lack of storage

A $75 cooler on a locked CPU

An overkill PSU

A 480?? How many months have you been editing this masterpiece? The 5XX series is out at the same price.

Very little actual instructional build guidance aside from CPU cooler.

So long since you built a PC you forgot the backplate before the thermal paste?

 

Joking aside I honestly hope this video gets a tonne of dislikes in case an unknowing novice falls victim to your shit. I honestly can't believe you just bought the best i5 you had the budget for  did you not think anyone with half a brain would call you out on buying a locked 4c/4t processor instead of an unlocked 4c/8t or 6c/12t? If these are the build guides please stop doing them again, you cause more harm than good. It's saying something when the channel that spawned this forum has worse advice than the forum it created.

 

Here is what you can really do if you have just over $1000 and are not a corporate shill:

 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($217.55 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($126.94 @ Amazon) 
Storage: SK hynix SL308 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($49.33 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($46.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card  ($350.69 @ Amazon) 
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.88 @ OutletPC) 
Other: NZXT HUE+ ($50.00)
Total: $1031.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-04 15:24 EDT-0400

 

 

EDIT: Just saw the video has over 3x more likes than dislikes. I hope its blind loyalty/bots otherwise thats a lot of users misinformed and wasting their money.

Edited May 4, 2017 by tom_w141