Is asus a reputable brand?

[I Suck At Captchas]

While trying to find a laptop a came across the Asus k501lx. The reviews seemed mixed at best.

I really like this laptop but I'm not sure if I should purchase it over an acer aspire. Does anyone else have experience with asus laptops and how long I can expect one to last.

 

 

Edit:

I should mention it's refurbished from a business surplus warehouse.

Edited March 14, 2017 by I Suck At Captchas

[nobiggieBIG]

6 minutes ago, I Suck At Captchas said:

While trying to find a laptop a came across the Asus k501lx. The reviews seemed mixed at best.

I really like this laptop but I'm not sure if I should purchase it over an acer aspire. Does anyone else have experience with asus laptops and how long I can expect one to last.

asus are one of the most known pc brands. youll be fine. their customer service is good

[Mira Yurizaki]

My impression of ASUS (and Acer) is that they find ways to cut corners, but usually in ways you don't initially notice. For example, when I had an ASUS G750JW, the keyboard area felt premium with a brushed aluminum feel and the lid had that rubberized plastic feel, but the bottom was just your bog standard rough textured plastic. That said, I haven't really had a problem with ASUS.

[xDanielxOossiex]

ASUS laptops are one of the best. I have an ASUS R500VD (i5 3210M and Nvidia 610M 2GB) which is 5 years old and still works fine.

My father has the same laptop but with i7 3610QM and 610M and his laptop also works fine and has no problems.

[minibois]

Asus laptops are pretty good, Acer laptops are quite a bit more budget

[Monkey Dust]

Asus produce a huge number laptops that cover the low to high end, some are great, some not. My last laptop was a cheap Asus, and it felt pretty flimsy, but then pretty much all cheap laptops do. I'd go by the reviews for the individual models. Between laptops of about the same price there normally isn't a lot of difference regardless of brand.  

[I Suck At Captchas]

3 minutes ago, xDanielxOossiex said:

ASUS laptops are one of the best. I have an ASUS R500VD (i5 3210M and Nvidia 610M 2GB) which is 5 years old and still works fine.

My father has the same laptop but with i7 3610QM and 610M and his laptop also works fine and has no problems.

I was I bit put off by all the people saying it needs a bios update to be usable. Has that been the case for you?

[Guest]

If all it needs is a bios update... And if they are out there, that's no reason to NOT buy it (refurbished) IMO.

[minibois]

4 minutes ago, I Suck At Captchas said:

I was I bit put off by all the people saying it needs a bios update to be usable. Has that been the case for you?

I have set up multiple Asus laptops (just got into the double digits) and never had any troubles with them.

[Pendragon]

Why would you ever get an asus laptop over it's competitors??? (bar a very few like the zenbook pro, the 960m gl552 or something), but everything else. Why would you EVER buy one. There are better things at almost ever price point. 

 

For some reason nobody gets that, and Asus is the highest selling gaming laptop manufacturer 3 years running. 

[tlink]

42 minutes ago, Pendragon said:

Why would you ever get an asus laptop over it's competitors??? (bar a very few like the zenbook pro, the 960m gl552 or something), but everything else. Why would you EVER buy one. There are better things at almost ever price point. 

 

For some reason nobody gets that, and Asus is the highest selling gaming laptop manufacturer 3 years running. 

high end asus laptops are cheaper than the competition spec wise where i live. they undercut the competition about 300 euro, which is a big deal for 2000 euro laptops. the smaller battery is a small price a lot of people are willing to pay for a budget 1070 i7 6700k laptop sitting at 1750 euro with an nvme ssd and weighing 2.3kg 60hz and g-sync and usb c 3.1 gen 2. it basically has everything the competition has except for battery size which is 62Whr

[Pendragon]

7 minutes ago, tlink said:

high end asus laptops are cheaper than the competition spec wise where i live. they undercut the competition about 300 euro, which is a big deal for 2000 euro laptops. the smaller battery is a small price a lot of people are willing to pay for a budget 1070 i7 6700k laptop sitting at 1750 euro with an nvme ssd and weighing 2.3kg 60hz and g-sync and usb c 3.1 gen 2. it basically has everything the competition has except for battery size which is 62Whr

 

 

Wait wat. You do know that battery size is not proportionate to battery life right. Literally look at Aorus' 99whr battery. Still has a 3.5 hour. Asus laptops have around the same. 

 

Also https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/defianceIII-15/ here you go. 1070 laptop for way below that price. 

[tlink]

16 minutes ago, Pendragon said:

Wait wat. You do know that battery size is not proportionate to battery life right. Literally look at Aorus' 99whr battery. Still has a 3.5 hour. Asus laptops have around the same. 

 

Also https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/defianceIII-15/ here you go. 1070 laptop for way below that price. 

final quota comes to 1.815 euro for similar specs. maybe actually fill in the specs next time instead of just going with a 1060 model with 500gb hdd and 4gb ram. not comparable at all.

[Pendragon]

1 hour ago, tlink said:

final quota comes to 1.815 euro for similar specs. maybe actually fill in the specs next time instead of just going with a 1060 model with 500gb hdd and 4gb ram. not comparable at all.

 

 

I dont even know how to you come with that price. Did you shit it out of a brick? So for the base in which I would use is 1365E. 

 

Lets make do some math to bring it to a reasonable level. 

Add Ram (134E): https://www.amazon.de/Kingston-HX421S13IBK2-16-Arbeitsspeicher/dp/B014R8JRRW/ref=sr_1_13?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1489539678&sr=1-13&keywords=ddr4+sodimm

Add Storage (172E): https://www.amazon.de/Samsung-MZ-75E500B-EU-interne-schwarz/dp/B00P73B1E4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1489539589&sr=8-2&keywords=850+evo

 

1365+134+172 = 1671

 

For comparison, lets take a look at your loved GL502VS (1699E): https://www.amazon.de/GL502VS-FY045T-Notebook-i7-6700HQ-GeForce-schwarz/dp/B01KJMUHMY/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1489540025&sr=1-2&keywords=gl502vs

 

Literally worse in every way.

Can't cool itself: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-ROG-Strix-GL502VS-Notebook-Review.171567.0.html

No MUX Switch: So battery life is garbage

6700HQ: Shit locked at 3.1ghz. Whereas the 6820HK can easily OC to 4.0ghz. Big difference in games. You can check benchmarks on that. 

180W adapter is shit. 1070 + 6820HK can pull near 210w+ even more on prema enabled clevos. So I added a 230w to my base config for more price.

 

So WTF are you saying??? People who don't know stuff commeting on things they don't know. All the above points are OBJECTIVELY worse. And there's nothing you can change about it. Yes, if you can find a GL502VS selling for 1400E then maybe it's worth considering, but at the market price of around a Clevo there is NO reason to EVER get. 

[tlink]

27 minutes ago, Pendragon said:

I dont even know how to you come with that price. Did you shit it out of a brick? So for the base in which I would use is 1365E. 

 

Lets make do some math to bring it to a reasonable level. 

Add Ram (134E): https://www.amazon.de/Kingston-HX421S13IBK2-16-Arbeitsspeicher/dp/B014R8JRRW/ref=sr_1_13?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1489539678&sr=1-13&keywords=ddr4+sodimm

Add Storage (172E): https://www.amazon.de/Samsung-MZ-75E500B-EU-interne-schwarz/dp/B00P73B1E4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1489539589&sr=8-2&keywords=850+evo

 

1365+134+172 = 1671

 

For comparison, lets take a look at your loved GL502VS (1699E): https://www.amazon.de/GL502VS-FY045T-Notebook-i7-6700HQ-GeForce-schwarz/dp/B01KJMUHMY/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1489540025&sr=1-2&keywords=gl502vs

 

Literally worse in every way.

Can't cool itself: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-ROG-Strix-GL502VS-Notebook-Review.171567.0.html

No MUX Switch: So battery life is garbage

6700HQ: Shit locked at 3.1ghz. Whereas the 6820HK can easily OC to 4.0ghz. Big difference in games. You can check benchmarks on that. 

180W adapter is shit. 1070 + 6820HK can pull near 210w+ even more on prema enabled clevos. So I added a 230w to my base config for more price.

 

So WTF are you saying??? People who don't know stuff commeting on things they don't know. All the above points are OBJECTIVELY worse. And there's nothing you can change about it. Yes, if you can find a GL502VS selling for 1400E then maybe it's worth considering, but at the market price of around a Clevo there is NO reason to EVER get. 

And blow the warranty? How about no. Also, sata ssd not m.2, price difference is big in that. And not 2.133mhz memory 2.400mhz memory. and you can complain about asus their thermals but yiu provided 0 proof that it will be better on this laptop

[Pendragon]

5 minutes ago, tlink said:

And blow the warranty? How about no.

YOU LITERALLY DONT KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. Almost ALL Clevo resellers PCSpecialist included allow for parts change such as adding SSDs and changing out the ram. Call them or learn to read the warranty agreement. Please. Stop. Giving people bad information. 

 

Only shitty companies like Asus don't allow people to change out parts. At this point it's only HP, Razer and Asus who enforce this. Companies like Dell, MSI, Clevo all allow parts change as long as changing the parts are not the cause of the problem.

[tlink]

Just now, Pendragon said:

YOU LITERALLY DONT KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. Almost ALL Clevo resellers PCSpecialist included allow for parts change such as adding SSDs and changing out the ram. Call them or learn to read the warranty agreement. Please. Stop. Giving people bad information. 

Then still updated my post, the parts you gave still don't match it. And the thermals issue is still not relevant because its not a comparison.

[Pendragon]

1 minute ago, tlink said:

the parts you gave still don't match it

No, it's better. 14CL 2400mhz Kingston is better than the shit CL16 provided on GL502VS.

850 evos with 3D-Vnand are comparable to MLC ssds. NVME ssds provide no tangible benefit UNLESS you're moving hundreds of gigabytes day to day like a high-end video editor. Places like LTT would highly benefit from NVME because they need to move huge files around all the time, but for the average person there is no reason to get one. 

[tlink]

2 minutes ago, Pendragon said:

No, it's better. 14CL 2400mhz Kingston is better than the shit CL16 provided on GL502VS.

850 evos with 3D-Vnand are comparable to MLC ssds. NVME ssds provide no tangible benefit UNLESS you're moving hundreds of gigabytes day to day like a high-end video editor. Places like LTT would highly benefit from NVME because they need to move huge files around all the time, but for the average person there is no reason to get one. 

that's not the point, the point is that its just not the same specs, while the laptops I compared it to all had nvme ssds and all had 2.4ghz ram. Also asus has a dead pixel warranty standard, this does not.

[Pendragon]

6 minutes ago, tlink said:

that's not the point, the point is that its just not the same specs, while the laptops I compared it to all had nvme ssds and all had 2.4ghz ram. Also asus has a dead pixel warranty standard, this does not.

 

 

 

 

No. The point is to get comparable performance without overspending uselessly. dead pixel warranty is 30 bucks extra so you can add it in. Also If you could properly read, there is a difference between CL14 and CL16 ram. But your mentality of needing to match every spec, you might as well ask why Asus doesn't include a MUX switch. Wait do you even know what that is?

 

14 minutes ago, tlink said:

And the thermals issue is still not relevant because its not a comparison.

Congratz on fully discrediting yourself. If you don't think thermals are a relevant comparison you should just run your parts without a heatsink at that point. Firmware and vbios specifically on Pascal is extremely sensitive to TDP and thermal changes, hence vbios locked things like GL502VS cap at 115W capping max turbo speeds around 1600mhz in sustained benches. Fully unlocked vbios with voltage unlocked allow 1060s and 1070s to ramp up to 2000mhz in sustained benching. Whereas on the shitty Asus locked vbios you're stuck with 1600mhz on sustained benches. http://hwbot.org/submission/3425786_

 

You still need to point out where you're getting your prices from. I don't see a 1750E GL502VS with comparable specs. 

 

[tlink]

11 minutes ago, Pendragon said:

No. The point is to get comparable performance without overspending uselessly. dead pixel warranty is 30 bucks extra so you can add it in. Also If you could properly read, there is a difference between CL14 and CL16 ram. But your mentality of needing to match every spec, you might as well ask why Asus doesn't include a MUX switch. Wait do you even know what that is?

 

Congratz on fully discrediting yourself. If you don't think thermals are a relevant comparison you should just run your parts without a heatsink at that point. Firmware and vbios specifically on Pascal is extremely sensitive to TDP and thermal changes, hence vbios locked things like GL502VS cap at 115W capping max turbo speeds around 1600mhz in sustained benches. Fully unlocked vbios with voltage unlocked allow 1060s and 1070s to ramp up to 2000mhz in sustained benching. Whereas on the shitty Asus locked vbios you're stuck with 1600mhz on sustained benches. http://hwbot.org/submission/3425786_

 

You still need to point out where you're getting your prices from. I don't see a 1750E GL502VS with comparable specs. 

 

Youve literally come full circle. Purging everything YOU don't deem relevant doesn't mean that its a better laptop. the reason why I said that thermals is not relevant is because you gave no thermals by the same methodology tested as the laptop you recommend. For all we know it could literally heat to 100c on boot. Youre being an asshole about this for no reason btw, get a grip on yourself. Dead pixel warranty is only 1 year, asus is 2 years. Huge difference. Also no windows 10, that's a huge cost since oem keys are NOT LEGAL to buy seperate. The only option they give is a 100 euro extra.