2x 6 Core Xeons vs i7 6850k

[VirusStorm]

1 minute ago, dizmo said:

Why not just get both?

cuz price

[Xreldo]

wait for new Ryzen and Kabby lake cpus 

[paps511]

You could get a 6800k and a Titan XP

[VirusStorm]

1 minute ago, paps511 said:

You could get a 6800k and a Titan XP

Too expensive, i'll have to stick with my 1070

[paps511]

1 minute ago, Xreldo said:

wait for new Ryzen and Kabby lake cpus 

While Ryzen might*** offer this desired level of performance, the first Kabby lake cpus would most likely be 7700k and 7600k (4/8 core and 4/4 core)

OP is looking for 8/16 core +

[VirusStorm]

2 minutes ago, Xreldo said:

wait for new Ryzen and Kabby lake cpus 

I'm not too sure about ryzen, and broadwell-e will probably outperform kaby lake in 3d work

[Xreldo]

1 minute ago, paps511 said:

While Ryzen might*** offer this desired level of performance, the first Kabby lake cpus would most likely be 7700k and 7600k (4/8 core and 4/4 core)

OP is looking for 8/16 core +

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[VirusStorm]

1 minute ago, paps511 said:

While Ryzen might*** offer this desired level of performance, the first Kabby lake cpus would most likely be 7700k and 7600k (4/8 core and 4/4 core)

OP is looking for 8/16 core +

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[Xreldo]

1 minute ago, VirusStorm said:

I'm not too sure about ryzen, and broadwell-e will probably outperform kaby lake in 3d work

Ryzen is litturaly a $350-400 6900k wanabe

[paps511]

1 minute ago, VirusStorm said:

Too expensive, i'll have to stick with my 1070

I didn't realize you already had a 1070.

6900k is about $1000, 6800k is about $400. 

You could get dual 1070s with a 6800k for the same price as a 6900k. That would help with gpu accelerated rendering

[VirusStorm]

1 minute ago, paps511 said:

I didn't realize you already had a 1070.

6900k is about $1000, 6800k is about $400. 

You could get dual 1070s with a 6800k for the same price as a 6900k. That would help with gpu accelerated rendering

the 6800k only has 6 cores though

[paps511]

1 minute ago, VirusStorm said:

the 6800k only has 6 cores though

Yes, but you could get a second 1070 to make up for the 2/4 cores missing.

I'm not sure if your programs would benefit more from a second gpu or more cores at a slower speed

[dizmo]

3 minutes ago, Xreldo said:

Ryzen is litturaly a $350-400 6900k wanabe

Maybe. No solid price has been released. For all we know it could be closer to $700.

There's no real advantage to AMD pricing themselves that much lower than Intel.

7 minutes ago, VirusStorm said:

cuz price

The E5 2670 is super cheap. I'd buy a couple of those used, and get a 6700k for the gaming side of things.

It'd come out cheaper than your $1,000 CPU idea.

Throw it all into a dual mobo case, then you can play as you render.

[VirusStorm]

9 minutes ago, paps511 said:

Yes, but you could get a second 1070 to make up for the 2/4 cores missing.

I'm not sure if your programs would benefit more from a second gpu or more cores at a slower speed

 I just checked on newegg, and your right! I could get a i7 6850k with a second 1070. But the 6850k would be slower than the 6900k in rendering. My programs are cpu intensive

[VirusStorm]

5 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Maybe. No solid price has been released. For all we know it could be closer to $700.

There's no real advantage to AMD pricing themselves that much lower than Intel.

The E5 2670 is super cheap. I'd buy a couple of those used, and get a 6700k for the gaming side of things.

It'd come out cheaper than your $1,000 CPU idea.

Throw it all into a dual mobo case, then you can play as you render.

 

A dual mobo setup? Might not be the best idea

[dizmo]

1 minute ago, VirusStorm said:

I can mix a xeon with an i7? 

No no. Two separate motherboards. Two independent systems.

I mean really, the i7 could be the locked variant on a cheap motherboard.

The case would be expensive (thought Thermaltake made a cheap one but I can't find it), but considering the Xeons are only $120ish each...I mean you could even go with an i5 for the gaming, depending on the games you play.

[VirusStorm]

1 minute ago, dizmo said:

No no. Two separate motherboards. Two independent systems.

I mean really, the i7 could be the locked variant on a cheap motherboard.

The case would be expensive (thought Thermaltake made a cheap one but I can't find it), but considering the Xeons are only $120ish each...I mean you could even go with an i5 for the gaming, depending on the games you play.

I think i'd rather get the 6850k and add a second 1070, but thanks for your help!

[DarkBlade2117]

17 minutes ago, Xreldo said:

Ryzen is litturaly a $350-400 6900k wanabe

That a bad thing? Even if it's $700, it's a good price

[VirusStorm]

Alright, so I've narrowed it down to two options:

i7 6850k + 2 gtx 1070's

i7 6900k + 1 gtx 1070

 

My programs are cpu intensive, do the extra 2 cores make a big difference in rendering and 3d work?

[paps511]

5 minutes ago, VirusStorm said:

I think i'd rather get the 6850k and add a second 1070, but thanks for your help!

The 6850k is only slightly faster than the 6800k and costs $200 more. The real draw is 40 pcie lanes over 28. If you need those lanes, get the 50, but if you don't, save the $200

[VirusStorm]

Just now, paps511 said:

The 6850k is only slightly faster than the 6800k and costs $200 more. The real draw is 40 pcie lanes over 28. If you need those lanes, get the 50, but if you don't, save the $200

I'm going to go with the 6850k just for future proofing. Will there be a big difference between the 6850k and the 6900k in cpu intensive rendering and 3d work?

[paps511]

6 minutes ago, VirusStorm said:

I'm going to go with the 6850k just for future proofing. Will there be a big difference between the 6850k and the 6900k in cpu intensive rendering and 3d work?

I don't know, but thats the big question.

What is better, 2/4 cores or another 1070

[VirusStorm]

3D rendering, 3d sculpting, 3d modelling, programming, 3d painting, and a lot of gaming. Paired with 1 1070 for the dual xeon and 2 1070's for the 6850k. I will be using Zbrush, Modo, and Substance Painter. Not to mention my games. Gaming is important to me, so if the 12 cores are a BIG issue, let me know

[Tedster]

1 minute ago, VirusStorm said:

3D rendering, 3d sculpting, 3d modelling, programming, 3d painting, and a lot of gaming. Paired with 1 1070 for the dual xeon and 2 1070's for the 6850k. I will be using Zbrush, Modo, and Substance Painter. Not to mention my games. Gaming is important to me, so if the 12 cores are a BIG issue, let me know

Tell us which Xeons specifically!

 

For gaming, of course I'd suggest the 6850k build because of the dual graphics cards and also the probable higher per-core clockspeed, and the fact it's overclockable.

You might get better compute performance out of the Xeons, but that depends on how old they are and what clockspeeds they run at.

[VirusStorm]

1 minute ago, Tedster said:

Tell us which Xeons specifically!

 

For gaming, of course I'd suggest the 6850k build because of the dual graphics cards and also the probable higher per-core clockspeed, and the fact it's overclockable.

You might get better compute performance out of the Xeons, but that depends on how old they are and what clockspeeds they run at.

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