Phil Schiller says the Macbook Pro doesn't need an SD card slot

[dalekphalm]

8 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

I can't tell if you're being serious or not.....

 

But CF is more prevalent in professional cameras than SD cards are.

I can't say how the Prosumer and Professional camera market is now (Talking dSLR's), but back when I worked for a camera shop in College (~6-8-ish years ago), a lot of higher end cameras were starting to come with slots for both, allowing the photographer to choose his or her desired media. It wasn't a given anymore at that point that a high end dSLR would only have CompactFlash.

 

But, you're still right, CompactFlash has been the media of choice for professional photographers for ages.

[79wjd]

1 minute ago, dalekphalm said:

I can't say how the Prosumer and Professional camera market is now (Talking dSLR's), but back when I worked for a camera shop in College (~6-8-ish years ago), a lot of higher end cameras were starting to come with slots for both, allowing the photographer to choose his or her desired media. It wasn't a given at anymore at that point that a high end dSLR would only have CompactFlash.

 

But, you're still right, CompactFlash has been the media of choice for professional photographers for ages.

AFAIK, the consumer stuff uses SD, prosumer uses SD and/or CF, and the professional stuff uses CF/XQD. (at least with Nikon)

[dalekphalm]

3 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

AFAIK, the consumer stuff uses SD, prosumer uses SD and/or CF, and the professional stuff uses CF/XQD. (at least with Nikon)

Ahh yes XQD didn't exist yet at the time. I stopped working there somewhere around 2010, which was when the XQD spec was being finalized. The first card didn't come out until like 2012.

[themctipers]

the macbook pro isn't for professionals imo

its for the regular consumer that knows that the air fucking sucks.

 

 

i mean sure there are 'professional' things sprinkled here and there, but really the macbook pro replaced the 'macbook' which was what was for the consumers.

then again, i have no fucking idea whats inside the macbook pro/macbook/macbook air, only know that the pro has that rehtinha display, better battery (what i assume) and a bit more performance (which is what everyone wants, right?)

[GoodBytes]

9 minutes ago, themctipers said:

the macbook pro isn't for professionals imo

its for the regular consumer that knows that the air fucking sucks.

 

 

i mean sure there are 'professional' things sprinkled here and there, but really the macbook pro replaced the 'macbook' which was what was for the consumers.

then again, i have no fucking idea whats inside the macbook pro/macbook/macbook air, only know that the pro has that rehtinha display, better battery (what i assume) and a bit more performance (which is what everyone wants, right?)

Nha...

MacBook Pro is supposed to be the MacBook Air. With the exception of the MacBook Pro 13 without the touch display, is what the MacBook should be.

Basically, the MacBook Pro is gone.

 

Now, it will sale very well, because if you want the fastest laptop running MacOS, you have 0 choice, and many MacBook users have been stretching out to the max their system upgrade schedule for the new MacBook Pro... now this is it... So they have no choice to buy it, basically. I am sure they are not pleased, but have no choice. This is the OS they are used to, this is where all their software works on, with many without a Windows version of it. And many web devs prefers Macs, because setting up web stuff to develop and test is MUCH easier on MacOS, because the back-end is Unix, which is what most servers runs.

So setting stuff for like programming Ruby it is easy. Windows it is a serious pain. Although, with Windows 10 now running Linux subsystem, it is changing.. but more work needs to be done on Microsoft part, and Windows IDE software needs to be updated to communicate with the Linux subsystem of Windows 10 instead, so that things can compile and run. Until then, MacOS is a great choice as an easy to use, welcoming, GUI environment over Linux based OS, not to mention Linux based OS have less software support.

[Juanitology]

12 hours ago, DatSpeed said:

Not at all. These are pro machines.

TOPKEK

[Fgtfv567]

14 hours ago, DatSpeed said:

Phil Schiller, senior VP of Apple's worldwide marketing, had an interview with the Independent regarding Apple's latest product the Macbook Pro.

The product has received criticism for the use of Thunderbolt ports as a replacement for...everything

 

He was asked why the SD Card slot, commonly used by photographers, was absent

 

The Independent then questioned Schiller as to why they kept the headphone jack 

A port that was removed from their flagship phone yet remains present in their latest Macbook Pro iteration 

 

 

It seems kind of weird to see the company that took out the headphone jack to defend why they kept it on another device

It seems "inconsistent" as The Independent stated

Apple has taken many risks lately though I'm not quite sure they're all worth taking 

 

Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/features/apple-macbook-pro-new-philip-schiller-interview-phil-iphone-ios-criticism-a7393156.html

Does anyone agree or disagree with me here when I say that Apple is going down the shithole with all of these terrible design choices after Jobs' death?

[dalekphalm]

10 hours ago, Fgtfv567 said:

Does anyone agree or disagree with me here when I say that Apple is going down the shithole with all of these terrible design choices after Jobs' death?

I don't see Jobs as some Messiah that had all the right answers. There were plenty of disasters under his leadership too. *cough*lisa*cough*

 

I think Apple is in a period where they don't really know their direction. Not every decision has been shit, they've made some excellent decisions and excellent products since Jobs has passed away. They've also made some dumbass ones too.

 

I wouldn't say they are going down the shithole just yet, since despite the dumbfounded decisions, they'll still sell millions of iPhone 7's and millions of 2016 Macbook "Pro"'s.

[Blade of Grass]

On 11/2/2016 at 0:05 PM, GoodBytes said:

As for the headphones plug. Professionals uses USB DAC and equipment, not headphones plug. I never saw any professional go with analogue plug solution via headphone plug, over digital signal, with it's own, way better DAC and amp setup.

"Professionals" what kind? Music producers? Video editors? Photographers? DJs? The issue with quantifying a group of vastly different people is that you end up making broad assertions that aren't necessarily correct. If you're just simply editing video on your laptop, the built-in headphone jack could be sufficient for your needs. If you're a music producer who wants to show a demo to a client, the built-in headphone jack could be sufficient for your needs. If you're a DJ who's putting a mix together on their way to work, the built-in headphone jack could be sufficient for your needs. 

The same people that use external DACs and audio interfaces are the same people that can still use them, they just - annoyingly - need a cable or an adapter.

[d0nsen]

On 2.11.2016 at 5:37 PM, GoodBytes said:

Sooooo, you actually agree with me? Make your mind.. you agree or not?

 

Yes... A shit DAC and a shit amp. That is why professionals uses separate DAC/Amp setup over using the onboard crap provided by manufacture... solutions that are also not restricted in power and space as well.

lolol k macdave guetta 

 

REAL PROFESSIONALS !!!1 

 

is usually a term used before someone clueless is pitching in homeboy

[Nowak]

"Because of a couple of things. One, it’s a bit of a cumbersome slot. You've got this thing sticking halfway out."

 

Well, ya know Schiller... There's kinda this:

 

 

But then there's also that:

 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[LAwLz]

On 11/2/2016 at 7:37 PM, SSL said:

Let me restate: I'm not just pontificating that USB is inadequate. I'm explaining that it simply isn't used for pro applications.

Are you being misleading on purpose? Yes, AES is the interface used for a lot of audio work, but how many computers have AES connectors? Not many. The AES interfaces are located on external units such as an Apogee Symphony I/O chassi. And how do you connect your computer to those devices? With, for example, USB (or in the case of the Apogee Symphony you can also plug it into their special PCI card). 

 

Saying that USB isn't used and it's all AES is simply not true. 

[Master Disaster]

What he actually means is

 

"We fully understand pro users do need an SD card slot but selling you an adapter is more important to us so we removed it"

[SSL]

10 hours ago, LAwLz said:

Are you being misleading on purpose? Yes, AES is the interface used for a lot of audio work, but how many computers have AES connectors? Not many. The AES interfaces are located on external units such as an Apogee Symphony I/O chassi. And how do you connect your computer to those devices? With, for example, USB (or in the case of the Apogee Symphony you can also plug it into their special PCI card). 

 

Saying that USB isn't used and it's all AES is simply not true. 

 

Ever heard of Lynx? There you go.

[Dackzy]

5 minutes ago, SSL said:

 

Ever heard of Lynx? There you go.

yes very floof cat  

 

I guess that you are talking about this http://www.lynxstudio.com/

[LAwLz]

16 minutes ago, SSL said:

Ever heard of Lynx? There you go.

Fair enough, but don't pretend like that is the only thing people use. Chassis like the one I mentioned are also used, and to connect them to a computer you can use a wide variety of connectors, including USB.

It's not a "one size fits all" type of deal like you want to make it seem.

 

Besides, not all professionals have studios for tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars.

[samiscool51]

A friend of mine was a obsessed apple fanboy, always saying that apple was the best,

now he hates apple and uses windows and he likes how windows computers have usb ports and sd card slots, unlike the macbook pro....

 

and when i mean this guy was obessed, i mean obsessed like people wanting half life 3 obsessed, he would only buy apple products, nothing else, he owns almost every apple product in existence!

if a fanboy like that hates what apple is doing, they might no-longer be with us... also F*ck apple.... (he said to say that here)

[Mooshi]

In the future Apple will sell you a $2,000 dongle to connect a computer up to. 

[Jovidah]

5 hours ago, Mooshi said:

In the future Apple will sell you a $2,000 dongle to connect a computer up to. 

I was going to joke they'll remove the ethernet port next...but apparently that's already a thing. 

They oughta make a game about it. Call it Dongle Kong.

[lettuce head]

I genuinely understand the whole "use thunderbolt for everything". It could possibly be a very hard, awkward step to a usb replacement...but for everything. but why would you choose this of all things to push when you change connectors every generation, when usb 3.1 type c is showing a lot more promise currently, and when you just released a phone that can't connect to it without a separate adapter?

 

 

[79wjd]

2 minutes ago, lettuce head said:

I genuinely understand the whole "use thunderbolt for everything". It could possibly be a very hard, awkward step to a usb replacement...but for everything. but why would you choose this of all things to push when you change connectors every generation, when usb 3.1 type c is showing a lot more promise currently, and when you just released a phone that can't connect to it without a separate adapter?

 

 

Apple doesn't change connectors every generation. The new Macs use USB 3.1-C (TB3) ports -- they work as both and both use the same type-c connector. 

[mach]

lol what a pathetic moron

studio amp?

what professionals will double amp the shit sound from the ShitBook?

well the idiots (their target audience) probably will.

[You_are_a_cunt]

Let's make it thinner and lighter so people can carry around (overpriced) accessories that should have been standard features in our Crapbook!

 

It's basically a cashgrab. You pay a ridiculous price for something that has the price/performance ratio of an elephant in a watch-maker's workshop, then you pay more money to buy accessories that give you the features you should've had in the first place.

[michaelocarroll007]

On 11/2/2016 at 11:33 AM, DatSpeed said:

 

 

It seems kind of weird to see the company that took out the headphone jack to defend why they kept it on another device

It seems "inconsistent" as The Independent stated

Apple has taken many risks lately though I'm not quite sure they're all worth taking 

 

Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/features/apple-macbook-pro-new-philip-schiller-interview-phil-iphone-ios-criticism-a7393156.html

 

 

Walk into Apple buys laptop and iphone  Goes to plug iphone into laptop Wait Huh  it doesnt connect.

 

Takes Headphones that came with the iphone goes to plug them into the laptop Wait Huh it doesn't connect

 

Seems Dumb to me overall not crazy big deal but Apple everyone thinks as this awsome there stuff works perfect with there stuff then they pull this

 

 

[QueenDemetria]

Phil isn't wrong, most people don't use SD slots on their laptops(sry, I can't show my source). Most people use Micro SD anyways, which ironically requires an adapter for most laptops that have full size SD slots.