iPhone 7 - Performance Results

[Overkilled]

11 minutes ago, dtaflorida said:

That's like why is the One Plus 3 better than the Axon 7. On paper the Axon 7 beats the OP3. But there are no reviews that say it's better than an OP3. 

 

See what I did there? I removed Apple from the equation so you can now look your question objectively.

What about the S7 Edge. It has a 1440p screen and nobody says the One plus 3 is better.

[Trixanity]

1 minute ago, VerticalDiscussions said:

What you mean? Whats the difference between Pentile and RGB pixel layout? I honestly havent even noticed the pixels on my current S6 Diamond Pentile display...?

While it does lower the subpixel count, it also leaves a green tint particularly when displaying white. 

 

RGB = 3 subpixels (the colors are obvious) 

Pentile = 2 subpixels (rg, bg) 

 

As you can see, there is the 'correct' number of green subpixels but it ends up drowning out the other subpixels. So Samsung uses advanced subpixel layouts and lots of fine tuning and lots of tricks to make the display appear normal. They're essentially trying to combat physics if you ask me. Pentile is obviously easier to make and probably have some advantages such as power efficiency due to reduced total subpixels. With increased resolution it's easier to hide because the pixel density increases which means the pixels are so close together they can almost trick the eye into resembling rgb but not completely; the green will still dominate and the human eye is more sensitive to green as well. 

[dtaflorida]

29 minutes ago, Overkilled said:

What about the S7 Edge. It has a 1440p screen and nobody says the One plus 3 is better.

You're ignoring the point. The point is, it is possible for a lower resolution to be better than a higher resolution. Big numbers in this specific spec have limited effect upon an actual user. And by removing Apple from the discussion of this, ppl take their heads out of their asses and actually accept this.

 

As for the S7, well whatever made the OP3 better than the Axon7 must be present in the S7. 

[Syntaxvgm]

4 hours ago, mrchow19910319 said:

Exactly. I don't know why people are so upset with one lightning port at the bottom...

People using their phone while charging that often is addicted to cell phones...... Learn to control yourself..lol 

*BUT if I played mobile games AT ALL, I would. If I'm tethered to a wall I guess a huge adapter can't hurt too much. Why they didn't just replace the port confuses me

[mrchow19910319]

43 minutes ago, Syntaxvgm said:

*BUT if I played mobile games AT ALL, I would. If I'm tethered to a wall I guess a huge adapter can't hurt too much. Why they didn't just replace the port confuses me

I see... 

[RedRound2]

On 9/14/2016 at 9:15 PM, Sauron said:

So you admit you didn't watch the video and you ""heard"" about some geekbench results, and yet I'm bringing out bullshit? Inform yourself before replying, it doesn't make your argument any more appealing when you make up things.

I heard as in I read the news when published, not from a source like you. But everything else I stated is a fact and you know it. You should probably take news from multiple sources before jumping into conclusions just from one video.

 

Again never said Apple's chip tops every single benchmark rather just takes the crown in the overall results especially in single core where it matter's the most 

 

Oh and btw, here you go

http://www.gsmarena.com/iphone_7_runs_antutu_takes_the_crown-news-20468.php

http://bgr.com/2016/09/13/iphone-7-vs-iphone-6s-vs-galaxy-note-7-antutu/

 

Again, its no secret that Apple's single core performance has always topped the charts and they still remain the top, beating Apple's A9X chip which itself was a marvel at the time

https://9to5mac.com/2016/09/08/iphone-7-plus-3gb-ram-geekbench-benchmark/

 

And please, at least I admit if I'm wrong or don't know what exactly I'm talking about, so rather than just emphasizing the fact that I didn't watch the video i would like a detailed answer of about what aspects aren't facts in my previous reply

 

Edit: I was wrong the iPhone even beats everything else at multi core despite geekbench reading only the two high performance cores

 

 

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2016/09/14/geekbench-android-a10

[MrDynamicMan]

Does performance benching even matter to mobile anymore? It's unlikely it's gonna get very stressed in everyday use. What I'd want to see is battery results.

 

Anyway, it doesn't really matter. No-ones gonna buy this anyway outside of a few select coffee shops. 

[ShadowCaptain]

1 hour ago, MrDynamicMan said:

Does performance benching even matter to mobile anymore? It's unlikely it's gonna get very stressed in everyday use. What I'd want to see is battery results.

 

Anyway, it doesn't really matter. No-ones gonna buy this anyway outside of a few select coffee shops. 

Yes to some degree, if they can make things both faster and also more energy efficient

also it pushes things like mobile gaming, mobile VR etc forwards - also a future where your phone is powerful enough to be your entire PC for all your day to day things

Yeah . im sure the iPhone 7 will sell like crazy, Ive got mine on order, as have a lot of people I know, and the queues outside the stores like normal and the difficulty getting pre-order stock - dont be silly it will sell very well

[MrDynamicMan]

13 minutes ago, ShadowCaptain said:

Yes to some degree, if they can make things both faster and also more energy efficient

also it pushes things like mobile gaming, mobile VR etc forwards - also a future where your phone is powerful enough to be your entire PC for all your day to day things

Yeah . im sure the iPhone 7 will sell like crazy, Ive got mine on order, as have a lot of people I know, and the queues outside the stores like normal and the difficulty getting pre-order stock - dont be silly it will sell very well

OH no, I agree that's it is an important aspect of the phone, but I'm saying your average consumer doesn't know or care. I know we're not the average consumer though. 

 

Maybe I took that a bit over the top. It's obviously gonna sell (it's and iPhone ffs) but most of the comments from my non-technical friends are along the lines of "no jack, not gonna buy" or "apple is going downhill" etc. Think this might be the beginning of the end of apples dominance. 

[ShadowCaptain]

Just now, MrDynamicMan said:

OH no, I agree that's it is an important aspect of the phone, but I'm saying your average consumer doesn't know or care. I know we're not the average consumer though. 

 

Maybe I took that a bit over the top. It's obviously gonna sell (it's and iPhone ffs) but most of the comments from my non-technical friends are along the lines of "no jack, not gonna buy" or "apple is going downhill" etc. Think this might be the beginning of the end of apples dominance. 

Yes but tech friends and none tech friends can still be ignorant

Ive worked in retail and know exactly how customers think, heck some people would come in for an android tablet, and because they had only heard of samsung, they would literally buy no other product even if the only samsung tablet was like the shittest one in the store "Well ive heard of samsung galaxy, nothing else will suit me"

I really doubt that simply removing a headphone jack will be the downfall of apple - everyone said that before when they removed things, and yet they have gone from strength to strength!

[MrDynamicMan]

3 minutes ago, ShadowCaptain said:

Yes but tech friends and none tech friends can still be ignorant

Ive worked in retail and know exactly how customers think, heck some people would come in for an android tablet, and because they had only heard of samsung, they would literally buy no other product even if the only samsung tablet was like the shittest one in the store "Well ive heard of samsung galaxy, nothing else will suit me"

I really doubt that simply removing a headphone jack will be the downfall of apple - everyone said that before when they removed things, and yet they have gone from strength to strength!

Fair enough. My friend group is basically a bunch of college kids, I'll take your word for it. 

[ShadowCaptain]

1 minute ago, MrDynamicMan said:

Fair enough. My friend group is basically a bunch of college kids, I'll take your word for it. 

Ive just seen it a billion times

 

I mean the headphone jack thing annoys me too, im not defending apple, I am just stating that it really wont effect much in terms of sales

 

and it seems the industry feels strongly about moving forward away from 3,5mm which we are basically powerless to stop 

 

Honestly if the benefits come from removing it, then I am happy to move forward too

[patrick3027]

On 14/09/2016 at 9:37 PM, Sauron said:

I have already posted the numbers that prove the opposite, but even if I hadn't the burden of proof falls on the one that made the claim - which would be you.

Sure buddy... 

 

 

[Sauron]

Just now, patrick3027 said:

Sure buddy... 

 

 

Maybe you should check which chips I refer to before posting a video that has nothing to do with them. The sd 820 is 6 months old.

[Kimmers]

I've always preferred faster single cores but I'm not complaining that the latest iPhone now crushes in multi core too. Apple's chip team is really under appreciated.

[VerticalDiscussions]

Cheetah fast phones, summarized...

 

Im not sure if people were expecting anything less from Apple's CPU's lol.

[TheReal1980]

For a company like Apple to lead in single core performance is just laughable.

[79wjd]

47 minutes ago, TheReal1980 said:

For a company like Apple to lead in single core performance is just laughable.

How so? Apple's CPUs have always been topping the performance charts. 

[79wjd]

Another 'irrelevant' benchmark and the iPhone 7 trashes the Note 7.

The iPhone 7 finishes in under 2 minutes while the Note 7 finishes in over 3 minutes. (1:40 vs. 3:14)

 

[Commodus]

On 9/19/2016 at 9:15 AM, djdwosk97 said:

Another 'irrelevant' benchmark and the iPhone 7 trashes the Note 7.

The iPhone 7 finishes in under 2 minutes while the Note 7 finishes in over 3 minutes. (1:40 vs. 3:14)

 

It's important to note that this is as much a condemnation of Samsung's overly aggressive memory management as anything.  With that said: it's clear that simply throwing more cores and RAM at a phone doesn't make it faster.  Overall CPU efficiency, software overhead and other factors play a large part.

[thecreativename]

On 9/14/2016 at 8:39 AM, djdwosk97 said:

The retina moniker originally came from the iPhone (specficially the iPhone 4). I agree, 720p/1080p is more than enough on a 4.7"/5.5" screen. Anything else is just for the sake of e-peen (or you have your phone WAY to close to your face). 

 

Although, I do personally find 1080p too low for a laptop -- but that's because of a lack of space more than being able to see pixels. 

I disagree. 1080p on the iPhone 7 plus is fine, but the 720p on the iPhone 7 is not.

[ShadowCaptain]

On 20/09/2016 at 7:56 PM, thecreativename said:

I disagree. 1080p on the iPhone 7 plus is fine, but the 720p on the iPhone 7 is not.

Why? i have an iphone 6 currently until my 7+ arrives

 

there is nothing wrong with the fidelity of the display

[thecreativename]

10 hours ago, ShadowCaptain said:

Why? i have an iphone 6 currently until my 7+ arrives

 

there is nothing wrong with the fidelity of the display

Because I can see pixels just fine on the iPhone 7. It's been a problem for me since the iPhone 5, and it still is a problem today.

[ShadowCaptain]

1 hour ago, thecreativename said:

Because I can see pixels just fine on the iPhone 7. It's been a problem for me since the iPhone 5, and it still is a problem today.

I still think its sharp enough 95% of the time at normal distances

[Hunter259]

The Apple SoC will be better in 95% of apps. The only place would be in a heavy gaming load that, somehow, will actually use those 4 cores. Do you guys not understand just how hard it is to multithread an application in the first place? Let alone do it correctly. Instagram doesn't need 4 cores. It needs one good one. Mobile web browsing MIGHT use 2. Snapchat - 1. Camera - 1. Reddit- Maybe 2. GTA - Possibly 3-4. Angry Birds - 1. @Sauron is FAR out weighing multi-core in the mobile work space. Shit. Even just NOW are we getting games that use more than maybe 2 or 3 on the desktop side. But if you notice, if you care to see facts, that the difference between the 6600k and the 6700k is still EXTREMELY close. Phone's don't need high core counts. They need fast dual cores. The Apple SoC, in a day to day usage case, is the better chip period.