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Pokemon Go - A possible privacy nightmare?

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So as it turns out, logging into Pokemon Go on iOS (possibly Android) gives full access to your Google account. This includes, but is not limited to your geo location, mail, drive, calendar, etc. 

 

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A word of warning if you're playing Pokémon Go on iOS: signing into the app through Google currently gives the game full access to your Google account (hat tip to Adam Reeve for discovering the issue). External apps that you sign into with Google often ask for a small subset of permissions based on what they need to do—view your contacts, view and send e-mail, view and delete Google Drive documents, and so on. But Niantic's Pokémon GoiOS app doesn't ask, and with full account access, it can theoretically do all of those things and more. You can check on and revoke permissions for Pokémon Go and any other external app on this page.

 

Removing the app from the permissions page doesn't seem to effect use of the application at this time. Hopefully they can get this fixed, because as it stands that's a MASSIVE security hole for a lot of accounts. 

 

Source: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/07/pokemon-go-on-ios-gets-full-access-to-your-google-account/

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3 minutes ago, Belgarathian said:

So as it turns out, logging into Pokemon Go on iOS (possibly Android) gives full access to your Google account. This includes, but is not limited to your geo location, mail, drive, calendar, etc. 

 

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Removing the app from the permissions page doesn't seem to effect use of the application at this time. Hopefully they can get this fixed, because as it stands that's a MASSIVE security hole for a lot of accounts. 

 

Source: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/07/pokemon-go-on-ios-gets-full-access-to-your-google-account/

who cares? pokemon!

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47 minutes ago, TheAmazingCookieFromSquare said:

It's pokemon 

 

 

Who the fuck cares?

 

GATTA CATCH EM' ALL 

Clearly born in the early 2000's. 

 

Pokemon is life... And is probably the first Pokemon game a lot of people will have played since early GBA releases. 

 

It's also one of the most downloaded apps, having recently eclipsed Tinder and is currently closing in on Twitter. 

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I never played pokemon nor do I know how to play(no clue why... just never got into it I guess). But I can see the location logging being an issue here. On both the nintendo and google side. 

 

It's probably not that big of a deal because it coorperations that we can trust (as of now) BUT things change and management changes and you never know when someone evil will get their hands on the data in the future, so best to play it safe. 

 

Can you revoke the google account access and still play the game?

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1 hour ago, Belgarathian said:

So as it turns out, logging into Pokemon Go on iOS (possibly Android) gives full access to your Google account. This includes, but is not limited to your geo location, mail, drive, calendar, etc. 

 

Screen-Shot-2016-07-11-at-12.32.46-PM-64

 

 

Removing the app from the permissions page doesn't seem to effect use of the application at this time. Hopefully they can get this fixed, because as it stands that's a MASSIVE security hole for a lot of accounts. 

 

Source: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/07/pokemon-go-on-ios-gets-full-access-to-your-google-account/

I POSTED THIS 3 DAYS AGO AND NO ONE BLINKED AN EYE!! I TOLD YOU! I logged in and my gmail got hijacked and my 2FA didn't do anything and I kept getting the code from a random number that was not google.

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6 minutes ago, bcredeur97 said:

I never played pokemon nor do I know how to play(no clue why... just never got into it I guess). But I can see the location logging being an issue here. On both the nintendo and google side. 

 

It's probably not that big of a deal because it coorperations that we can trust (as of now) BUT things change and management changes and you never know when someone evil will get their hands on the data in the future, so best to play it safe. 

 

Can you revoke the google account access and still play the game?

Google already store location data, you can track all your locations here: https://www.google.com.au/android/devicemanager

 

I'm more worried about the app having unrestricted access to Gmail, Drive, Docs, and other google apps under my google account - not my location data.

 

Removing the permissions for the app from my google account doesn't impact playing the game, but it's still concerning to see this as the default permission.

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5 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

I POSTED THIS 3 DAYS AGO AND NO ONE BLINKED AN EYE!! I TOLD YOU! I logged in and my gmail got hijacked and my 2FA didn't do anything and I kept getting the code from a random number that was not google.

Were you on Android or iOS?

 

Sorry for the repost! I did a quick search but didn't see anything, maybe I'm going blind. 

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6 minutes ago, Belgarathian said:

Sorry for the repost! I did a quick search but didn't see anything. 

 

Maybe I'm going blind. 

I don't think he posted in tech news, but he did make a thread on the issue

 

@SamStrecker I remember you posting it (I don't have GO so I didn't think much of it), I'm surprised though none of the numerous people who actually play cared, though off topic posts do tend to be less noticeable.

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1 minute ago, AresKrieger said:

I don't think he posted in tech news, but he did make a thread on the issue

 

@SamStrecker I remember you posting it (I don't have GO so I didn't think much of it), I'm surprised though none of the numerous people who actually play cared, though off topic posts do tend to less noticeable.

Well I didn't have a source so I didn't want to break CoC

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7 minutes ago, Belgarathian said:

Were you on Android or iOS?

 

Sorry for the repost! I did a quick search but didn't see anything, maybe I'm going blind. 

No no I posted it in Off topic this is good in news. I was IOS

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1 minute ago, SamStrecker said:

Well I didn't have a source so I didn't want to break CoC

This is true, I think the mods would have allowed it though if you documented things, and updated as news came out, but it's best not to break CoC when possible

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/631048-psu-tier-list-updated/ Tier Breakdown (My understanding)--1 Godly, 2 Great, 3 Good, 4 Average, 5 Meh, 6 Bad, 7 Awful

 

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2 minutes ago, AresKrieger said:

This is true, I think the mods would have allowed it though if you documented things, and updated as news came out, but it's best not to break CoC when possible

Ars is a more reputable source then some kid on a forum

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Just looked at my account and pokemon go isn't even listed(on android).

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11 minutes ago, Belgarathian said:

Google already store location data, you can track all your locations here: https://www.google.com.au/android/devicemanager

 

I'm more worried about the app having unrestricted access to Gmail, Drive, Docs, and other google apps under my google account - not my location data.

 

Removing the permissions for the app from my google account doesn't impact playing the game, but it's still concerning to see this as the default permission.

"Full Permissions" to your account does not mean they can use your account as if they were you. It means they have access to things like your recent locations, Google ad data, Google Plus circles, ect. It doesn't mean they can look in your Google Docs, Gmail, Drive, ect.

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20 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

No no I posted it in Off topic this is good in news. I was IOS

Weird... I use 2FA through the Google Vault app so haven't had an issue yet, but I've revoked app permissions. 

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15 minutes ago, Kobathor said:

"Full Permissions" to your account does not mean they can use your account as if they were you. It means they have access to things like your recent locations, Google ad data, Google Plus circles, ect. It doesn't mean they can look in your Google Docs, Gmail, Drive, ect.

Maybe I started screaming fire a bit early, turns out that most of it was steam. 

 

Thanks for the heads up. Guess sometimes when I'm in a rush I don't stop to think about an article. Still, I think it's a bit OTT for all the private data they're asking for. 

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Good catch.  This could be a big deal especially since there would be a fair number of kids playing it too, I would think.

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35 minutes ago, Belgarathian said:

Maybe I started screaming fire a bit early, turns out that most of it was steam. 

 

Thanks for the heads up. Guess sometimes when I'm in a rush I don't stop to think about an article. Still, I think it's a bit OTT for all the private data they're asking for. 

It is a little weird, yes. But- app developers change permissions all the time. The app is new, so it'll probably change later.

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And that's why you use a trash email to sigh up to new games. They can have all access to the flood of spam on that email. It should be normal to have 3 emails. One for business, one for websites/forums you trust and use daily, one for one time off sigh ups and spam

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Just checked for Android and it does not have access to your Google account under the "Connected Apps" section. I checked the permissions the app had on the device itself and it doesn't look like it requires more than it should:

  • Location (GPS)
  • Photos/Media/Files (based on the brief exploring I did in the folders is looks like there is caching being done in the data folders)
  • Camera (taking pictures inside the app)
  • Bluetooth connection information (assuming this is for the Bbluetooth device they'll be releasing)
  • Full network access (talking to the servers)
  • Prevent phone from sleeping (Battery Saver function where it turns the screen off but continues tracking movements)
  • Pair with Bluetooth devices (same as above for the Bluetooth devices they'll be releasing)
  • View network connections (the app only works with an active connection)
  • Control vibration (app functionality)
  • Use accounts on the device (this is so we don't have to manually login each time the servers crash like iOS users do)

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Heads up, this has actually been fixed and was an error due to using an outdated thing, think i heard it on Netlinked Daily.

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On 12.07.2016 at 3:13 AM, TheAmazingCookieFromSquare said:

It's pokemon 

 

 

Who the fuck cares?

 

GATTA CATCH EM' ALL 

I think thats what they're (creators of Pokemon GO) up to:
Gotta catch em' all (em = private data :P)

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