Samsung Rolls Out New 4TB 850 EVO

[It's me!]

if only this were a bit cheaper, I would buy two. the performance seems really good, I wonder when they will officially release it?

 

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Adorama lists the 4 TB Evo as utilizing 3D TLC (3 bit) V-NAND and boasting a top speed of 98,000/90,000 4K random read/write IOPS and up to 540/520 MBps of sequential read/write throughput. The performance specs are hardly groundbreaking and really just serve to illustrate how much the SATA 6 Gbps connection is limiting the current crop of SATA SSDs. Samsung also noted that it's optimized for client use, and listed the QD1 performance at 10,000/40,000 4k random read/write IOPS. This is a useful specification because the low queue depths is where the majority of consumer workloads reside.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/samsung-850-evo-4tb-ssd,32220.htmlhttp://www.tomshardware.com/news/samsung-850-evo-4tb-ssd,32220.html

[VerticalDiscussions]

Anyone else likes Samsung SSD design :p? 

[Murasaki]

holy $h!t that thing will probably last more than i will

7 minutes ago, VerticalDiscussions said:

Anyone else likes Samsung SSD design :p? 

I got a 500gig one, very sexy.

[LizardsAreOP]

SSD = Solid State Drive

 

SSD = Super Speed Drive

[themaniac]

buy it for the low low price of $1,000,000

[ThinkWithPortals]

And now I feel like a pleb with my 250GB 850 EVO

[Katsunaka]

Ive got 2 1Tb 850 evos and a 500gb 850 evo. 

The 500gb is a 3d v nand drive. 

 

I dont need no 4tb ssd. Ive got 2.5 tb of ssd, ill stick with what I got. 

I know its probably close to 1600bucks.

The 2tb is almost 800.

[Coaxialgamer]

great . Now we just need MUCH lower cost per GB !

[Seireitou]

Wake me up when its 1 cent per GB. Then we can all have 16TB of M.2 SSD's <33 One for you, one for you and one for you!!!

[VerticalDiscussions]

2 minutes ago, Seireitou said:

-snip-

42 years later... 

You still alive?

 

[Seireitou]

1 minute ago, VerticalDiscussions said:

42 years later... 

You still alive?

 

I hope so, I'm only 21 years old now. Lets hope I don't get hit by a car or a random hype train from Zen... lmfao

[Trixanity]

54 minutes ago, themaniac said:

buy it for the low low price of $1,000,000

I can give you a small loan of a million dollars. 

 

Sad to see it being bottlenecked by SATA3.

[SurvivorNVL]

Oh, I need this for mass storage.  Already using an 850 Evo 1TB and 950 Pro 512gb.  Now I just need this to complete the set *_*  

[patrickjp93]

31 minutes ago, Coaxialgamer said:

great . Now we just need MUCH lower cost per GB !

We're already at 19 cents a GB at (iirc) 45nm lithography. When we go back down to 32, it'll drop again. And Samsung is already making 16TB SSDs.

[Bleedingyamato]

53 minutes ago, Trixanity said:

I can give you a small loan of a million dollars. 

 

Sad to see it being bottlenecked by SATA3.

Why would sata 3 bottleneck it?. Shouldn't that be plenty fast for the ssd to run at full speed?

[Bleedingyamato]

17 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

We're already at 19 cents a GB at (iirc) 45nm lithography. When we go back down to 32, it'll drop again. And Samsung is already making 16TB SSDs.

How can they be making 16TB SSDs when they just announced, announced not even released for sale, a 4TB SSD?

[Thony]

Awesome ! We need more super high capacity SSDs so low capacity ones go down in price a bit more !

Once 500GB SSDs from Samsung are listed for under $100 im joining the club  until then I gotta wait for Black Fridays.

[Scionyde]

I remember Mushkin was planning to release their 4TB SSD for around $1000 in Q2 of this year. Wonder what happened there...

 

Still, it's worth remembering that their SSD was gonna be closer to 10k IOPS in random read/write performance. Can't have it fast and cheap, I suppose.

[patrickjp93]

12 minutes ago, Bleedingyamato said:

How can they be making 16TB SSDs when they just announced, announced not even released for sale, a 4TB SSD?

Simple: enterprise http://gizmodo.com/samsungs-16tb-ssd-is-now-an-actual-thing-people-can-buy-1762536707

[Bleedingyamato]

33 minutes ago, Thony said:

Awesome ! We need more super high capacity SSDs so low capacity ones go down in price a bit more !

Once 500GB SSDs from Samsung are listed for under $100 im joining the club  until then I gotta wait for Black Fridays.

Just get one now you won't regret it.  Even if you just get maybe a 250GB for your OS drive you'll go nuts over how much faster your computer will boot up and be ready to use.

 

My desktop has a 250GB Samsung 850 PRO and it's on the desktop ready to go in 30 seconds tops.  It's so nice.  ?

[Bleedingyamato]

26 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

Simple: enterprise http://gizmodo.com/samsungs-16tb-ssd-is-now-an-actual-thing-people-can-buy-1762536707

That's really cool.  I didn't know they had SSDs anywhere near that large.  Too bad I'd have to sell my soul to afford it.  lol

[Trixanity]

1 hour ago, Bleedingyamato said:

Why would sata 3 bottleneck it?. Shouldn't that be plenty fast for the ssd to run at full speed?

Why do you think pretty much all recent SATA3 SSDs pretty much all run at 520-550 MB/s sequential speeds? Isn't that a bit suspect that regardless of controller, NAND memory etc. that they all hit the same speed? It's because the SATA3 interface tops out there. 

 

Of course, random speed is just as important or probably a lot more important. NVMe will not only increase the bandwidth, it will also reduce latencies and more. So that's why I want to see SATA3 drives to go away even though they're more widely compatible especially older systems that don't support newer standards.

[Bleedingyamato]

7 minutes ago, Trixanity said:

Why do you think pretty much all recent SATA3 SSDs pretty much all run at 520-550 MB/s sequential speeds? Isn't that a bit suspect that regardless of controller, NAND memory etc. that they all hit the same speed? It's because the SATA3 interface tops out there. 

 

Of course, random speed is just as important or probably a lot more important. NVMe will not only increase the bandwidth, it will also reduce latencies and more. So that's why I want to see SATA3 drives to go away even though they're more widely compatible especially older systems that don't support newer standards.

No that's wrong.  I just looked it up and SATA 3 has a limit above what you're stating.

 

http://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/8142/~/difference-between-sata-i,-sata-ii-and-sata-iii

 

Sata 3 tops out slightly higher than even 550.  So no sata 3 is not bottlenecking a sata 3 SSD.  They're rated for a bit higher than 500 MB/s presumably because that's the limit of the design with any differences being from various manufacturers using different components.  

 

 

[79wjd]

I'd love ten of these for my NAS....$15k seems a bit steep however 

[DrM]

6 minutes ago, Trixanity said:

Why do you think pretty much all recent SATA3 SSDs pretty much all run at 520-550 MB/s sequential speeds? Isn't that a bit suspect that regardless of controller, NAND memory etc. that they all hit the same speed? It's because the SATA3 interface tops out there. 

 

Of course, random speed is just as important or probably a lot more important. NVMe will not only increase the bandwidth, it will also reduce latencies and more. So that's why I want to see SATA3 drives to go away even though they're more widely compatible especially older systems that don't support newer standards.

sata 3 drives are not much of a bottleneck. moving to nvme ssds wont see much of a performance increase except in max sequential speeds. the added random read/write performance doesnt have much of a real world impact. i personally run a ramdisk with 1gb 4k speeds (by comparison my sata3 ssd runs 26mb 4k) and i barely see any faster speeds (maybe 30% or less). the real bottleneck is cpu speeds or file system limitations, not storage