What happened nVIDIA?

[JamGorby]

nVidia dropped support for Kepler a while back. They openly announced it. This is not new news and is also not a conspiracy. 

[hex4]

1 minute ago, Cripple [Crip] said:

Well Nvidia has ALWAYS BEEN A GREEDY BITCH nerfing Kepler and trying to make people Maxwell or Pascal , AMD was never like that i have more trust in AMD since they are a better company but imagine having 3dfx in 2016...

3DFX is the dream.

[hex4]

1 minute ago, DXMember said:

it probs have to do with amount of VRAM at that point

Naa 580 stresses like a bitch at ULTRA, Vram not the issue  3GB 580.

[Cripple [Crip]]

1 minute ago, hex4 said:

3DFX is the dream.

3dfx is love,3dfx is life...Im soooooo sad nvidia bought 3dfx if they just did not go bankrupt im %99 sure we would have 4k gaming cards already but they went bankrupt and i feel sad

[Cripple [Crip]]

3 minutes ago, hex4 said:

Naa 580 stresses like a bitch at ULTRA, Vram not the issue  3GB 580.

But fucking imagine AMD going bankrupt i would probs quit gaming and switch to console since then Nvidia will be the only one on the market and support for amd cards would slowly fade away and them being a greedy bitch they would  price everything like i have bill gates' wallet

[hex4]

1 minute ago, Cripple [Crip] said:

But fucking imagine AMD going bankrupt i would probs quit gaming and switch to console since then Nvidia will be the only one on the market and support for amd cards would slowly fade away and them being a greedy bitch they would  price everything like i have bill gates' wallet

Consoles would be me 150% if there was only 1 GPU player, fuck that.

[Big-G]

33 minutes ago, hex4 said:

Or nVIDIA got lazy?

Nope AMD finally figured out how to driver, and DX12 helped.

[DXMember]

1 minute ago, Cripple [Crip] said:

them being a greedy bitch they would  price everything like i have bill gates' wallet

aren't they already? I mean a 200mm²chip for $700 the fuck?

[hex4]

1 minute ago, GidonsClaw said:

Nope AMD finally figured out how to driver, and DX12 helped.

Good for AMD though, nVIDIA is now the laughing stock, as it deserves to be, fucking tards.

[Cripple [Crip]]

1 minute ago, DXMember said:

aren't they already? I mean a 200mm²chip for $700 the fuck?

Yea but if AMD goes out that chip would be $7000

[DXMember]

5 minutes ago, hex4 said:

nVIDIA is now the laughing stock, as it deserves to be, fucking tards.

haven't they been for a while?

I mean HB SLI bridges?? who are you kidding, this 2005 or something? get on with the times...

they are like the church in the dark ages, Huang even speaks like an evangelist

[hex4]

1 minute ago, DXMember said:

haven't they been for a while?

I mean HB SLI bridges?? who are you kidding, this 2005 or something?

they are like the church in the dark ages, Huang even speaks like an evangelist

Well i have money set aside for RX 480, AMD have my money.

 

AMD ZEN looking interesting too, hoping it delivers.

[manikyath]

12 minutes ago, DXMember said:

no it doesn't

but I derailed the topic like 5 posts ago and now we're talking about human perception, this has nothing to do with kepler performance

we're talking about facts. using an analogy that is less complex to understand, but seemingly for you was an issue.

 

the reason that when you turn off one light the other one gets brighter is, indeed, human perception.

however, the other light doesnt actually get brighter, it keeps to its usual rated lumen, going on as it was, this can be proven with a light intensity meter.

 

or to bring it back to GPUs: with a graph that is not relative performance, but rather hard FPS numbers by doing a benchmark ("fps meter") shows if, and how much, both sides have gone up or down.

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PS: yes, amd is totally ahead in the long term driver optimization game, but thats mostly because they come from a place where optimization wasnt all too amazing either way.

[Cripple [Crip]]

2 minutes ago, hex4 said:

Good for AMD though, nVIDIA is now the laughing stock, as it deserves to be, fucking tards.

AMD cards by the looks of it will crush Nvidias in dx12 not to mention for games that dont have dx12 support AMD always has mantle avaible, AMD's driver support is getting better with every release and the rx 480 is going to be a big hit for Nvidia since nvidia fucked up by sticking to make high end cards but that takes like only %20 of the market , not to mention if you can build a gaming pc for the price of a console with the rx 480 and it can game at 1080p ultra settings 60 fps the console would be crushed and AMD would come out on top

[Big-G]

7 minutes ago, hex4 said:

Good for AMD though, nVIDIA is now the laughing stock, as it deserves to be, fucking tards.

LOL, I disagree... DX12 is the only thing making AMD cards viable... Their DX11 performance is still crap. That's why it shows massive gains. Nvidia runs optimized in DX11 and DX12... ASync just doesn't provide the optimisation needed by AMD cards to compete...

 

But the fanboys will just say it's not so...

[hex4]

1 minute ago, GidonsClaw said:

LOL, I disagree... DX12 is the only thing making AMD cards viable... Their DX11 performance is still crap. That's why it shows massive gains. Nvidia runs optimized in DX11 and DX12... ASync just doesn't provide the optimisation needed by AMD cards to compete...

 

But the fanbys will just say it's not so...

Well call me an AMD fanboy then.

[manikyath]

1 minute ago, hex4 said:

AMD ZEN looking interesting too, hoping it delivers.

i've been hoping that for longer than i'd want to. i've been planning on an AMD zen server build since like.. ces 2015?

[Cripple [Crip]]

1 minute ago, hex4 said:

Well call me an AMD fanboy then.

I dont care im a AMD fanboy , AMD was always better than Nvidia in low budget cards and they were not scrubs as Nvidia trying to make billions of scams , im with you my friend!

[Big-G]

3 minutes ago, hex4 said:

Well call me an AMD fanboy then.

If the shoe fits, although I only named fanboys  

[manikyath]

12 minutes ago, Cripple [Crip] said:

But fucking imagine AMD going bankrupt i would probs quit gaming and switch to console since then Nvidia will be the only one on the market and support for amd cards would slowly fade away and them being a greedy bitch they would  price everything like i have bill gates' wallet

theres multiple reasons why amd wont go bankrupt, and if they do nvidia wont be the "single market player" at least for long.

 

truth is that both economically and -in fact by law- a monopoly is not a very good situation to be in.

[DXMember]

6 minutes ago, manikyath said:

we're talking about facts. using an analogy that is less complex to understand, but seemingly for you was an issue.

 

the reason that when you turn off one light the other one gets brighter is, indeed, human perception.

however, the other light doesnt actually get brighter, it keeps to its usual rated lumen, going on as it was, this can be proven with a light intensity meter.

 

or to bring it back to GPUs: with a graph that is not relative performance, but rather hard FPS numbers by doing a benchmark ("fps meter") shows if, and how much, both sides have gone up or down.

--

PS: yes, amd is totally ahead in the long term driver optimization game, but thats mostly because they come from a place where optimization wasnt all too amazing either way.

... so... we're on the same page then or what?

awesome, here's a cool video I found on the internet:

 

[hex4]

2 minutes ago, GidonsClaw said:

If the shoe fits, although I only named fanboys  

I don't own anything AMD, well unless you count my Phenom II quad system lol.

 

The shoes fit apparently as i have nothing good to say for nVIDIA, including the price scandal for GTX 1000 outside of US.

[Lays]

To be fair, AMD has been rehashing the same similar chips for ages now, IE: working on drivers for their 280x benefitted the 7970, and so on.  It's not a surprise that their older chips have been steadily gaining on their nvidia counterparts, or even surpassing them.  When you re-use the same shit over and over essentially, all of your products will benefit from driver optimizations.  

 

 

[manikyath]

7 minutes ago, GidonsClaw said:

LOL, I disagree... DX12 is the only thing making AMD cards viable... Their DX11 performance is still crap. That's why it shows massive gains. Nvidia runs optimized in DX11 and DX12... ASync just doesn't provide the optimisation needed by AMD cards to compete...

 

But the fanboys will just say it's not so...

meanwhile -coming from a 970 owner- an R9 390 beats a 970 in performance per dollar pretty much across the board, not by much, but it's a thing.

(i have vareous other reasons to own a 970 over a 390, but i'm not gonna go over that.)

[hex4]

1 minute ago, Lays said:

To be fair, AMD has been rehashing the same similar chips for ages now, IE: working on drivers for their 280x benefitted the 7970, and so on.  It's not a surprise that their older chips have been steadily gaining on their nvidia counterparts, or even surpassing them.  When you re-use the same shit over and over essentially, all of your products will benefit from driver optimizations.  

 

 

I actually do think it's a better practice if i'm honest.