GeForce GTX 1070 is now available to buy for £399.99 (UK)

[Kaita]

3 minutes ago, Thony said:

Wont be better in performance but we all kinda expect it to be 5-10% behind and absolute no brainer for the price. Hope it is that way

Yeah something like that , would be totally worth it if the difference is 5-10% in performance. What I'm worried about now is the prices in the EU.

[MadyTehWolfie]

1 hour ago, Kaleshi said:

I'll wait for an RX 490, thanks.

I would as well but it wont be able to keep up with a 1070. That being said I would only buy the 1070 with a aftermarket cooler on it

[handymanshandle]

1 hour ago, Thony said:

I dont know about US prices for GTX 1080 but FE should cost MORE than aftermarket. Here in UK aftermakret costs a lot more...

Huh, interesting. Well it sounds like EVGA will be using the reference PCB so the cheaper/lower end ACX 3.0 cards will cost less than their own in house boards for like the FTW, Classified and K|NGP|N cards.

[Thony]

1 minute ago, Kratzos said:

Yeah something like that , would be totally worth it if the difference is 5-10% in performance. What I'm worried about now is the prices in the EU.

If performance is there for UK it should be £250 (8GB) and up to 300e in rest of EU. Which is still 30% better than freaking 1070.

I can personally afford 1070 but its just so much money man

[Kaleshi]

2 minutes ago, MadyTehWolfie said:

I would as well but it wont be able to keep up with a 1070. That being said I would only buy the 1070 with a aftermarket cooler on it

Erm, no. The RX 490 should easily trade blows with the GTX 1070, and be cheaper. But until we get benchmarks, the verdict is still in the air tbh.

[Kaita]

1 minute ago, Thony said:

If performance is there for UK it should be £250 (8GB) and up to 300e in rest of EU. Which is still 30% better than freaking 1070.

I can personally afford 1070 but its just so much money man

Please AMD , don't ruin this for us >.>

[multifrag]

23 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

Where did you find a 980 Ti for 310 pounds? On PCPartPicker it seems like all of them costs ~500 pounds or more. I can't find any 980 Ti for less than 500 pounds on Amazon either.

At 400 pounds the 1070 is actually a good deal in the UK. It's about 100 pounds cheaper and it seems like it has ~10% extra performance on average (plus additional features).

Ebay. The land of cheap prices and good bargains. As of this moment I can't find the card which was selling for 310. They had couple of them(5). Probably sold out. Still can get one for 350. As noted before 1070 has on average 7% better performance in games over 980ti, but has worse overclocking capabilities. So if both overclocked 980ti will come out on top. The only difference is temperatures and power use. Not sure of what ''additional features'' you're talking about, but isn't pascal is mostly same architecture maxwell and just a node jump to 16nm?

[Sauron]

1 hour ago, wcreek said:

The GTX 970 was $350, okay. Well the GTX 1070 is $380. So no. It's not that much more expensive.

Except 380$ is MSRP and does not reflect the street price. The FE is 450$. As for the EVGA version, I doubt it will be cheaper and either way you're basing yourself on rumours. The prices we DO know about are ridiculous.

[handymanshandle]

1 hour ago, Sauron said:

Except 380$ is MSRP and does not reflect the street price. The FE is 450$. As for the EVGA version, I doubt it will be cheaper and either way you're basing yourself on rumours. The prices we DO know about are ridiculous.

How US$380 ridiculous? True, we don't know the pricing of third party coolers (Like the ACX 3.0) but I'd expect $400 to be a reasonable starting price for the ACX 3.0 GTX 1070.

[Sauron]

3 minutes ago, wcreek said:

How US$380 ridiculous? True, we don't know the pricing of third party coolers (Like the ACX 3.0) but I'd expect $400 to be a reasonable starting price for the ACX 3.0 GTX 1070.

Looks to me like you didn't read my post.

[handymanshandle]

1 hour ago, Sauron said:

Looks to me like you didn't read my post.

Yeah I did, the FE price is $450. Which yeah I agree is a little expensive (it's about a $70 difference) but it's still a couple hundred dollars cheaper than the GTX 1080 FE and base price.

[Sauron]

1 minute ago, wcreek said:

Yeah I did, the FE price is $450. Which yeah I agree is a little expensive (it's about a $70 difference) but it's still a couple hundred dollars cheaper than the GTX 1080 FE and base price.

Did I say the 1080 is reasonably priced?

[handymanshandle]

1 hour ago, Sauron said:

Did I say the 1080 is reasonably priced?

No.

[Sauron]

4 minutes ago, wcreek said:

No.

I didn't think so.

[LAwLz]

57 minutes ago, multifrag said:

Ebay. The land of cheap prices and good bargains. As of this moment I can't find the card which was selling for 310. They had couple of them(5). Probably sold out. Still can get one for 350. As noted before 1070 has on average 7% better performance in games over 980ti, but has worse overclocking capabilities. So if both overclocked 980ti will come out on top. The only difference is temperatures and power use. Not sure of what ''additional features'' you're talking about, but isn't pascal is mostly same architecture maxwell and just a node jump to 16nm?

So you were comparing a second hand card to a brand new one...?

Of course second hand will give you better price:performance ratio, especially if you also overclock the second hand card. Has any manufacturer ever priced a brand new product to be competitive with the second hand market? You have to compare brand new vs brand new, and when you do that the price of the 1070 not only makes sense, it is actually a much better buy than a 980 Ti.

 

If you apple the same standards and logic to the RX 480 not even that will be very impressive.

[WereCat]

1 hour ago, LAwLz said:

Where did you find a 980 Ti for 310 pounds? On PCPartPicker it seems like all of them costs ~500 pounds or more. I can't find any 980 Ti for less than 500 pounds on Amazon either.

At 400 pounds the 1070 is actually a good deal in the UK. It's about 100 pounds cheaper and it seems like it has ~10% extra performance on average (plus additional features).

 

You can't compare US and UK prices like that. It's always much more expensive in Europe.

 

He said

GTX 970 MSRP -> $350 - £250

GTX 1070 MSRP -> $380 - £399

 

You pay £149 extra for $30.

 

Yes. Market works differently than we consumers would like but they are still asking way much above what they should. Even when you include VAT and import duties it shouldn't be that much.

[LAwLz]

5 minutes ago, WereCat said:

He said

GTX 970 MSRP -> $350 - £250

GTX 1070 MSRP -> $380 - £399

 

You pay £149 extra for $30.

 

Yes. Market works differently than we consumers would like but they are still asking way much above what they should. Even when you include VAT and import duties it shouldn't be that much.

Oh sorry, didn't know the 970 was 250 pounds at launch in the UK. The one I was responding to only mentioned the launch price in the US (350 USD).

 

If he had said it the way you did I would not have had any problem with his post. Saying "400 pounds is much more than 350 USD" though is kind of irrelevant.

[WereCat]

2 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

Oh sorry, didn't know the 970 was 250 pounds at launch in the UK. The one I was responding to only mentioned the launch price in the US (350 USD).

 

If he had said it the way you did I would not have had any problem with his post. Saying "400 pounds is much more than 350 USD" though is kind of irrelevant.

Yes. Comparing $ with £ based just on currency value is meaningless because of other fees that go along with the product.

He said that in the comment below what you quoted.

 

Basically however it is pretty easy to calculate the price it should cost which worked for me for GTX 1080 in €.

Just transfer MSRP from $ to €, add 20% VAT then 5% NVIDIA premium for EU market and you get to the price the card actually sells for around here.

 

The problem with 1070 is that it sells for another 10-15% more than it should 

[hex4]

Yeah RiP nVIDIA this time around for me, AMD RX 480 is tickling my dingaling.

[ACatWithThumbs]

2 hours ago, wcreek said:

Lol, I'm talking about US dollars. In the UK and Europe. Well I suppose that's a different story because of import duties and local/regional taxes. So in the US if the GTX 970 launched for US$350 and the GTX 1070 is launching for US$380 that's a US$30 difference. 

Just that is has nothing to do with taxes nor import fees it's purely based on Nvidia.
There was never such an massive up charge for cards and it's far beyond any taxes or import fees.
The GTX1080 is almost $900 in Germany that is insane for such a small chip it costs more than the 980Ti.
Even if you include 19% VAT it would still be max around 650€ for the 1080 not 750-800€ like it is right now.
Nvidia is literally doing an extra $200 up charge on every card outside of the US.




 

[handymanshandle]

1 hour ago, JasonRoGo said:

Just that is has nothing to do with taxes nor import fees it's purely based on Nvidia.
There was never such an massive up charge for cards and it's far beyond any taxes or import fees.
The GTX1080 is almost $900 in Germany that is insane for such a small chip it costs more than the 980Ti.
Even if you include 19% VAT it would still be max around 650€ for the 1080 not 750-800€ like it is right now.
Nvidia is literally doing a $100-200 up charge on every card outside of the US.

Huh interesting. I would've thought it would've been import fees.

[escape093]

You could get two RX 480s for that price.

[alexyy]

This is why I just purchased a 980ti on ebay for £350. 

[alexyy]

1 hour ago, wcreek said:

Huh interesting. I would've thought it would've been import fees.

Well The 970 on launch was between £250-300 it's now £399-450 for the 1070,

980 was £400-450, 1080 is around £550-650 some even up for £700, 

 

I don't know why but it's absolutely insane. 

[MadyTehWolfie]

7 hours ago, Kaleshi said:

Erm, no. The RX 490 should easily trade blows with the GTX 1070, and be cheaper. But until we get benchmarks, the verdict is still in the air tbh.

Miss read 490 for 480 didnt know they announced the 490 yet. Though latelt games havent been optimized for amd so Im probably still going to go with nvida this year.