Microsoft Hits a New Low - Pressing Close Will Now Install Windows 10

[kaylexmorgana]

I'm not. I turned windows 7 updates off ages ago

[LordLeewee]

47 minutes ago, othertomperson said:

Because it's really buggy. Half the time I boot my PC I need to immediately restart because there's no audio until I do. It bluescreens with much greater frequency that Windows 7 did, Windows Explorer crashes much more often than it used to, the Start Menu is constantly breaking. This can be "minor" breaks, such as the colour not loading correctly so that the text and all of the buttons are not visible, or clicking anything on the taskbar can just not work, Cortana crashes quite often (despite being set to not even run), and when it does there is a massive window that is constantly on top requiring me to logout and log back in to enable it to restart (again, even though it is set to never be running in the first place).

 

I'd list the telemetry and spyware shit Windows 10 is full of too, but that's long since been retroactively shoved onto Windows 7, 8 and 8.1.

 

As soon as I can I'm dumping Windows entirely.

seems like a hardware issue. i have windows 10 on 4 personal systems used daily and have none of these issues at all. i dont understand everyones big deal about a free upgrade, if youre using 7 or 8 youre obviously happy with windows so why not upgrade to a better version of it?

[Delicieuxz]

2 minutes ago, LordLeewee said:

seems like a hardware issue. i have windows 10 on 4 personal systems used daily and have none of these issues at all. i dont understand everyones big deal about a free upgrade, if youre using 7 or 8 youre obviously happy with windows so why not upgrade to a better version of it?

Windows 10 is not established to be better Windows 7, or 8(.1). It's a trade-off of features, control, privacy, stability, and functionality. Some things W10 offers are nice, but other things are nicer in Windows 7.

[Mew]

16 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

Credit Card laws and cardholder agreements are generally too strict to allow something like what you describe to happen without consequences.

 

At worst, the person would simply need to put a chargeback on their credit card for unauthorized payments.

 

I do not think Microsoft will do that at all. I think as soon as the deadline for the free Upgrade hits, they will disable the notifier (It likely already has the code built in to match against date, and auto disable). After that, they may have some sort of app that will allow you to "easily" purchase an upgrade, but I don't believe this hypothetical app will be in your face at all.

Well. I guess I can equate the last day to upgrade for free as "2012" where after the day passes, it's suddenly peaceful and quiet. 

[othertomperson]

25 minutes ago, LordLeewee said:

seems like a hardware issue. i have windows 10 on 4 personal systems used daily and have none of these issues at all. i dont understand everyones big deal about a free upgrade, if youre using 7 or 8 youre obviously happy with windows so why not upgrade to a better version of it?

It turns out a public alpha is no replacement for the team of skilled testers that they laid off.

 

It's great that you have not had any issues. Unfortunately you are in the minority.

[ClownFace1511]

The pop up hasn't happened to me but I have the toolbar 10 logo. Its still bad that they are so eager to get everyone in win 10. The only reason why I'm going across is because of the DPI scaling for 4k

[Kherm]

the new one literally has a cancel button whereas the last one didn't 

[Nowak]

Microsoft, I like Windows 10, but I DON'T like how you're pushing it.

 

20 minutes ago, Kherm said:

the new one literally has a cancel button whereas the last one didn't 

Problem is that people are so used to just clicking out of it they won't notice the cancel button right away.

[PlayStation 2]

1 hour ago, Delicieuxz said:

It's a trade-off of...privacy

Not really. Fine about control but I don't understand this.

[crystal6tak]

Jeez MS, I'll upgrade on July 28th, no need to be so pushy. Let me enjoy my Win 7 for 2 more month before I have deal with Win 10 

[Delicieuxz]

2 minutes ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

Not really. Fine about control but I don't understand this.

Aside from the telemetry in W10, which doesn't exist in Win7 unless a person chooses to install the 2015 updates which added it... when typing something into the Win7 start search, what you type doesn't get sent to Microsoft. When you type something into Cortana, it does.

[PlayStation 2]

1 minute ago, Delicieuxz said:

Aside from the telemetry in W10, which doesn't exist in Win7 unless a person chooses to install the 2015 updates which added it... when typing something into the Win7 start search, what you type doesn't get sent to Microsoft. When you type something into Cortana, it does.

If you have something to hide from typing from the start search, then what the hell are you using Windows for.

[Delicieuxz]

5 minutes ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

If you have something to hide from typing from the start search, then what the hell are you using Windows for.

When you talk about needing to have something to hide in order to not be on exposition to Microsoft, you're already showing that you don't have an understanding of what privacy is, or what personal space is, or what control over one's own domain is.

 

Not having something to hide isn't equal to freely giving yourself away. And you wondered about what's less private with Win10 than Win7, and you got an answer.

[suicidalfranco]

how many times have i pasted this now?

http://darkpatterns.org

 

Now i'll wait for the MS Defence Force to do what they to best in this cases (which is justify it by calling out Google)

[That Norwegian Guy]

8 hours ago, spwath said:

I can defend it.

You can play devil's advocate on the internet, how unique you are.

[SeriousDad69]

Wait and see how many people are going to whine when the free upgrade expires lol. You're going to have to upgrade sometime luddite, might as well do it while it's free.

Honestly the only people whining about this automatic upgrade business are people smart enough to stop it.

[vanished]

2 minutes ago, SeriousDad69 said:

Wait and see how many people are going to whine when the free upgrade expires lol. You're going to have to upgrade sometime luddite, might as well do it while it's free.

Honestly the only people whining about this automatic upgrade business are people smart enough to stop it.

I wonder how many people had their machines upgrade on them and they didn't even notice... that might sound unfathomable to some but I know there's at least a handful of people out there that are about that tuned in to what their PC is doing.

[SeriousDad69]

2 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

I wonder how many people had their machines upgrade on them and they didn't even notice... that might sound unfathomable to some but I know there's at least a handful of people out there that are about that tuned in to what their PC is doing.

The upgrade was so smooth and seamless that my entire family didn't notice the upgrade on their computers except that it looked different. Very few people have a problem with the upgrade, some piece of random niche software stops working, or they're overly concerned about the privacy of their cat photo collection and suddenly Windows 10 is the scum of the Earth, on par with Malware.

[dalekphalm]

6 hours ago, othertomperson said:

It turns out a public alpha is no replacement for the team of skilled testers that they laid off.

 

It's great that you have not had any issues. Unfortunately you are in the minority.

Source?

 

Even though I personally have experienced issues on a couple computers (3 computers - out of like, literally 100), I'm EXTREMELY SKEPTICAL that the people having issues are the majority. If someone didn't have any issues, they are extremely unlikely to post about it. The vocal minority that have issues always raise more of a ruckus (as they should, to get their issues addressed).

 

Remember, there are now over 300 Million active Windows 10 users. You're telling me over 150 Million of them are having issues?

[Master Disaster]

9 hours ago, Weird Face said:

"No means yes" is apparently Microsoft's philosophy.

I'm curious as to when close became no exactly?

[vanished]

UPDATE: apparently Microsoft has reversed their decision: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36376962

[jagdtigger]

4 hours ago, Master Disaster said:

I'm curious as to when close became no exactly?

And when it became "ok go ahead"? Stop defending this malware and mspy...

[Bananasplit_00]

i have always been on windows 10s side because its a great OS but this is actiually beeing a bitch. but its also Microsofts OS and they can do whatever they want with it because they own(ok not exactly everything) and we chose to use it. i remember disabeling those prompts before upgrading tho so im pretty sure there is a way to get rid of them in the settings, any way this is just a dick move from Microsoft that we can all agree on

[deviant88]

Their malicious attitude and software is going to backfire against them someday, and ill be here to laugh as hard as i can.

[Just Monika]

5 hours ago, Master Disaster said:

I'm curious as to when close became no exactly?

Since... always? At the very least, it can be interpreted as a non-response.

 

Think if an unwanted automated telemarketer called you when you're busy or otherwise doing something else, advertising a product you have absolutely no interest or need for. Rather than listening to the whole recording about how you should buy X product or service, you hang up the phone. To your surprise, you find your credit card charged with the product advertised by the telemarketing robocall even though you never said "yes" to ordering anything and hung up instead.

 

So yes, clicking X/hanging up is basically a "no" response. It is definitely not a "yes" response.