Posted May 17, 2016 Just now, Ashaira said: well for watercoolers it's a moot point but for others yeah........ Had they said under water okay but they had everyone believe it was a random GPU with a blower cooler. Major lie imo. Archangel (Desktop) CPU: i5 4590 GPU:Asus R9 280 3GB RAM:HyperX Beast 2x4GBPSU:SeaSonic S12G 750W Mobo:GA-H97m-HD3 Case:CM Silencio 650 Storage:1 TB WD RedCelestial (Laptop 1) CPU:i7 4720HQ GPU:GTX 860M 4GB RAM:2x4GB SK Hynix DDR3Storage: 250GB 850 EVO Model:Lenovo Y50-70Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VTWindows 10 is now MSX! - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/440190-can-we-start-calling-windows-10/page-6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, don_svetlio said: Cause we were promised 2GHz at 69*C whereas we got 1.7GHz at 82*C Lesson here is, whenever you attend one of these shows. Do not look at the pretty graphs, use your binoculars and read the find print that's at the very bottom. Intel Xeon E5 1650 v3 @ 3.5GHz 6C:12T / CM212 Evo / Asus X99 Deluxe / 16GB (4x4GB) DDR4 3000 Trident-Z / Samsung 850 Pro 256GB / Intel 335 240GB / WD Red 2 & 3TB / Antec 850w / RTX 2070 / Win10 Pro x64 HP Envy X360 15: Intel Core i5 8250U @ 1.6GHz 4C:8T / 8GB DDR4 / Intel UHD620 + Nvidia GeForce MX150 4GB / Intel 120GB SSD / Win10 Pro x64 HP Envy x360 BP series Intel 8th gen AMD ThreadRipper 2! 5820K & 6800K 3-way SLI mobo support list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2016 1 minute ago, NumLock21 said: Lesson here is, whenever you attend one of these shows. Do not look at the pretty graphs, use your binoculars and read the find print that's at the very bottom. More like electronic microscope.... Archangel (Desktop) CPU: i5 4590 GPU:Asus R9 280 3GB RAM:HyperX Beast 2x4GBPSU:SeaSonic S12G 750W Mobo:GA-H97m-HD3 Case:CM Silencio 650 Storage:1 TB WD RedCelestial (Laptop 1) CPU:i7 4720HQ GPU:GTX 860M 4GB RAM:2x4GB SK Hynix DDR3Storage: 250GB 850 EVO Model:Lenovo Y50-70Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VTWindows 10 is now MSX! - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/440190-can-we-start-calling-windows-10/page-6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2016 2 hours ago, Tenelia said: Was hoping to move from a 970 to the 1080... But it doesn't even give that much of a performance/watt improvement. Your upgrade decision is based on performance / watt ????? Anyway there's little reason to upgrade if you have a 970. I too have an R9 290 vapor-x, and as great as the GTX 1080 is when I actually play games on my GPU at silky smooth framerates with great image quality I realize there is no need to upgrade for now. I think for us the only reason would be if we get a 4K monitor. And in that case I think it makes sense to wait for the flagship parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, Humbug said: Your upgrade decision is based on performance / watt ????? Why make fun of what other people prioritize? CPU: 6700k 4.6Ghz GPU: MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X MB: MSI Gaming M5 PSU: Evga 750 G2 Case: Phanteks EVOLV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2016 Benchmarks running full AA on 4k -.- Turn that all off then you can get 60+ fps. Corsair 760T White | Asus X99 Deluxe | Intel i7-5930k @ 4.4ghz | Corsair H110 | G.Skill Ripjawz 2400mhz | Gigabyte GTX 970 Windforce G1 Gaming (1584mhz/8000mhz) | Corsair AX 760w | Samsung 850 pro | WD Black 1TB | IceModz Sleeved Cables | IceModz RGB LED pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2016 10 minutes ago, don_svetlio said: More like electronic microscope.... Can't use that when you're sitting at the very back. Intel Xeon E5 1650 v3 @ 3.5GHz 6C:12T / CM212 Evo / Asus X99 Deluxe / 16GB (4x4GB) DDR4 3000 Trident-Z / Samsung 850 Pro 256GB / Intel 335 240GB / WD Red 2 & 3TB / Antec 850w / RTX 2070 / Win10 Pro x64 HP Envy X360 15: Intel Core i5 8250U @ 1.6GHz 4C:8T / 8GB DDR4 / Intel UHD620 + Nvidia GeForce MX150 4GB / Intel 120GB SSD / Win10 Pro x64 HP Envy x360 BP series Intel 8th gen AMD ThreadRipper 2! 5820K & 6800K 3-way SLI mobo support list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2016 7 minutes ago, Spectrez said: Why make fun of what other people prioritize? It was in jest, not mocking. Curious because GTX 970 has good perf / watt and most owners are happy with that aspect of it. Anyway back to Tenelia's concerns in addition to the Pascal architectural improvements and new manufacturing process, the flagship parts should also come with HBM 2. So that will give a further boost to perf/watt. We could see the big parts be even more efficient than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2016 As I suspected, 25-30% increase. Definitely not "irresponsible amounts of performance" As I also suspected, the temperature we saw that overclock in was with the blower fan running at 100% speed with noise rivaling that of a vacuum cleaner. In fact according to tomshardware leaving the stock fan profile leads to the card reaching its 84 degree temperature target and clock itself down to base clockspeed. As if the "refounderence" card needed any more shit to be talked about it. Waiting for AIBs is recommended for any and everyone. We have a NEW and GLORIOUSER-ER-ER PSU Tier List Now. (dammit @LukeSavenije stop coming up with new ones) You can check out the old one that gave joy to so many across the land here Computer having a hard time powering on? Troubleshoot it with this guide. (Currently looking for suggestions to update it into the context of <current year> and make it its own thread) Computer Specs: Spoiler Mathresolvermajig: Intel Xeon E3 1240 (Sandy Bridge i7 equivalent) Chillinmachine: Noctua NH-C14S Framepainting-inator: EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 Hybrid Attachcorethingy: Gigabyte H61M-S2V-B3 Infoholdstick: Corsair 2x4GB DDR3 1333 Computerarmor: Silverstone RL06 "Lookalike" Rememberdoogle: 1TB HDD + 120GB TR150 + 240 SSD Plus + 1TB MX500 AdditionalPylons: Phanteks AMP! 550W (based on Seasonic GX-550) Letterpad: Rosewill Apollo 9100 (Cherry MX Red) Buttonrodent: Razer Viper Mini + Huion H430P drawing Tablet Auralnterface: Sennheiser HD 6xx Liquidrectangles: LG 27UK850-W 4K HDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2016 3 hours ago, don_svetlio said: 20-30% above a Titan X and stock 980 Ti. Definitely not "double the performance" as everyone was expecting lol who is everyone? Everyone knows the double performance only applies to VR only, it was written on the slides. Only fanboys tricked themself into thinking 2x performance in real games. CPU: Ryzen 2 2700@ 4.0Ghz Mobo: Gigabyte X470 Gaming 7 Wifi Cooler: EVGA CLC 240 GPU: GTX1080 FTW DT @ 2113Mhz PSU: EVGA 750W P2 Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Displays: 34" LG34UC79G, 24" Dell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2016 2 hours ago, DioOmicida said: But your talking about 30-40fps @ maxed out 4k and comparing 20-25 frames which is pretty much considered unplayable to 40-45 frames which is more than playable. Like you mention, with driver updates as well as including in overclocking, I'm pretty positive those 60 frames you want will be pretty possible once multi-pin aftermarket cards become available. We just gotta wait, I guess. I know I'm much more picky about playing at 60fps than anyone else, but at least I have the patience of a brick to keep on waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2016 1 hour ago, LAwLz said: In that case we should expect the 1080 to become even better in the future, on top of already being really good. I won't get it though. Too expensive. I will probably get the 380X replacement from AMD. For the next months it seems like Nvidia will dominate the high end, while AMD will be the mid-range. Hopefully this puts pressure on AMD to release Polaris 10 around $250-$270 with GTX 980 level performance as the R9 480x. That would be a really hot card for then. If it's 970 performance for $300 that would kind of stink, considering I can already buy a new 970 from newegg for $256. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, MilfShake said: fanboys tricked themself As much as I don't condone fanboyism, you can't take the blame off Nvidia. Nvidia tricked their "loyal" and not so savvy followers into thinking that. We have a NEW and GLORIOUSER-ER-ER PSU Tier List Now. (dammit @LukeSavenije stop coming up with new ones) You can check out the old one that gave joy to so many across the land here Computer having a hard time powering on? Troubleshoot it with this guide. (Currently looking for suggestions to update it into the context of <current year> and make it its own thread) Computer Specs: Spoiler Mathresolvermajig: Intel Xeon E3 1240 (Sandy Bridge i7 equivalent) Chillinmachine: Noctua NH-C14S Framepainting-inator: EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 Hybrid Attachcorethingy: Gigabyte H61M-S2V-B3 Infoholdstick: Corsair 2x4GB DDR3 1333 Computerarmor: Silverstone RL06 "Lookalike" Rememberdoogle: 1TB HDD + 120GB TR150 + 240 SSD Plus + 1TB MX500 AdditionalPylons: Phanteks AMP! 550W (based on Seasonic GX-550) Letterpad: Rosewill Apollo 9100 (Cherry MX Red) Buttonrodent: Razer Viper Mini + Huion H430P drawing Tablet Auralnterface: Sennheiser HD 6xx Liquidrectangles: LG 27UK850-W 4K HDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2016 3 minutes ago, MilfShake said: lol who is everyone? Everyone knows the double performance only applies to VR only, it was written on the slides. Only fanboys tricked themself into thinking 2x performance in real games. Read a bit of older threads Archangel (Desktop) CPU: i5 4590 GPU:Asus R9 280 3GB RAM:HyperX Beast 2x4GBPSU:SeaSonic S12G 750W Mobo:GA-H97m-HD3 Case:CM Silencio 650 Storage:1 TB WD RedCelestial (Laptop 1) CPU:i7 4720HQ GPU:GTX 860M 4GB RAM:2x4GB SK Hynix DDR3Storage: 250GB 850 EVO Model:Lenovo Y50-70Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VTWindows 10 is now MSX! - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/440190-can-we-start-calling-windows-10/page-6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2016 14 minutes ago, Energycore said: As I suspected, 25-30% increase. Definitely not "irresponsible amounts of performance" As I also suspected, the temperature we saw that overclock in was with the blower fan running at 100% speed with noise rivaling that of a vacuum cleaner. In fact according to tomshardware leaving the stock fan profile leads to the card reaching its 84 degree temperature target and clock itself down to base clockspeed. As if the "refounderence" card needed any more shit to be talked about it. Waiting for AIBs is recommended for any and everyone. Could be worse - could be 100*C Archangel (Desktop) CPU: i5 4590 GPU:Asus R9 280 3GB RAM:HyperX Beast 2x4GBPSU:SeaSonic S12G 750W Mobo:GA-H97m-HD3 Case:CM Silencio 650 Storage:1 TB WD RedCelestial (Laptop 1) CPU:i7 4720HQ GPU:GTX 860M 4GB RAM:2x4GB SK Hynix DDR3Storage: 250GB 850 EVO Model:Lenovo Y50-70Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VTWindows 10 is now MSX! - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/440190-can-we-start-calling-windows-10/page-6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2016 Dmitry's 1080 hit 2.1ghz at 58c wtf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2016 1 minute ago, Kimmers said: Dmitry's 1080 hit 2.1ghz at 58c wtf? Remember operating temperature depends on ambient temperature almost exactly - 1 degree less ambient temperature will result in 1 degree less GPU temperature, give or take a few small fractions. So maybe Dimitry's ambient temp was super cold We have a NEW and GLORIOUSER-ER-ER PSU Tier List Now. (dammit @LukeSavenije stop coming up with new ones) You can check out the old one that gave joy to so many across the land here Computer having a hard time powering on? Troubleshoot it with this guide. (Currently looking for suggestions to update it into the context of <current year> and make it its own thread) Computer Specs: Spoiler Mathresolvermajig: Intel Xeon E3 1240 (Sandy Bridge i7 equivalent) Chillinmachine: Noctua NH-C14S Framepainting-inator: EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 Hybrid Attachcorethingy: Gigabyte H61M-S2V-B3 Infoholdstick: Corsair 2x4GB DDR3 1333 Computerarmor: Silverstone RL06 "Lookalike" Rememberdoogle: 1TB HDD + 120GB TR150 + 240 SSD Plus + 1TB MX500 AdditionalPylons: Phanteks AMP! 550W (based on Seasonic GX-550) Letterpad: Rosewill Apollo 9100 (Cherry MX Red) Buttonrodent: Razer Viper Mini + Huion H430P drawing Tablet Auralnterface: Sennheiser HD 6xx Liquidrectangles: LG 27UK850-W 4K HDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2016 Certainly didn't live up to the hype. This card would have been far more impressive had it released at the same price point as the gtx 980 which it is replacing. This suggests that there is not going to be a 1080ti, NVIDIA are charging more for their cards now or perhaps they're just overpricing it until vega or gp100 launches. I guess only time/drivers will tell. CPU - Ryzen Threadripper 2950X | Motherboard - X399 GAMING PRO CARBON AC | RAM - G.Skill Trident Z RGB 4x8GB DDR4-3200 14-13-13-21 | GPU - Aorus GTX 1080 Ti Waterforce WB Xtreme Edition | Case - Inwin 909 (Silver) | Storage - Samsung 950 Pro 500GB, Samsung 970 Evo 500GB, Samsung 840 Evo 500GB, HGST DeskStar 6TB, WD Black 2TB | PSU - Corsair AX1600i | Display - DELL ULTRASHARP U3415W | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2016 1 minute ago, Energycore said: Remember operating temperature depends on ambient temperature almost exactly - 1 degree less ambient temperature will result in 1 degree less GPU temperature, give or take a few small fractions. So maybe Dimitry's ambient temp was super cold Well I hear Canada is a pretty cold place . He also had his fan speed set to 55% maximum. What a card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2016 4 minutes ago, Kimmers said: Well I hear Canada is a pretty cold place . He also had his fan speed set to 55% maximum. What a card. I wouldn't believe that kind of temperature on 55%. Every other reviewer had to turn the fan to 100% to achieve sub-70 temperatures. We have a NEW and GLORIOUSER-ER-ER PSU Tier List Now. (dammit @LukeSavenije stop coming up with new ones) You can check out the old one that gave joy to so many across the land here Computer having a hard time powering on? Troubleshoot it with this guide. (Currently looking for suggestions to update it into the context of <current year> and make it its own thread) Computer Specs: Spoiler Mathresolvermajig: Intel Xeon E3 1240 (Sandy Bridge i7 equivalent) Chillinmachine: Noctua NH-C14S Framepainting-inator: EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 Hybrid Attachcorethingy: Gigabyte H61M-S2V-B3 Infoholdstick: Corsair 2x4GB DDR3 1333 Computerarmor: Silverstone RL06 "Lookalike" Rememberdoogle: 1TB HDD + 120GB TR150 + 240 SSD Plus + 1TB MX500 AdditionalPylons: Phanteks AMP! 550W (based on Seasonic GX-550) Letterpad: Rosewill Apollo 9100 (Cherry MX Red) Buttonrodent: Razer Viper Mini + Huion H430P drawing Tablet Auralnterface: Sennheiser HD 6xx Liquidrectangles: LG 27UK850-W 4K HDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2016 1 minute ago, Energycore said: I wouldn't believe that kind of temperature on 55%. Every other reviewer had to turn the fan to 100% to achieve sub-70 temperatures. Either he's lying or he lives in an igloo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2016 1 minute ago, Kimmers said: Either he's lying or he lives in an igloo. I'd love for it to be the igloo one, although even then he's misleading the consumer by not stating that he tested inside a house literally made out of ice We have a NEW and GLORIOUSER-ER-ER PSU Tier List Now. (dammit @LukeSavenije stop coming up with new ones) You can check out the old one that gave joy to so many across the land here Computer having a hard time powering on? Troubleshoot it with this guide. (Currently looking for suggestions to update it into the context of <current year> and make it its own thread) Computer Specs: Spoiler Mathresolvermajig: Intel Xeon E3 1240 (Sandy Bridge i7 equivalent) Chillinmachine: Noctua NH-C14S Framepainting-inator: EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 Hybrid Attachcorethingy: Gigabyte H61M-S2V-B3 Infoholdstick: Corsair 2x4GB DDR3 1333 Computerarmor: Silverstone RL06 "Lookalike" Rememberdoogle: 1TB HDD + 120GB TR150 + 240 SSD Plus + 1TB MX500 AdditionalPylons: Phanteks AMP! 550W (based on Seasonic GX-550) Letterpad: Rosewill Apollo 9100 (Cherry MX Red) Buttonrodent: Razer Viper Mini + Huion H430P drawing Tablet Auralnterface: Sennheiser HD 6xx Liquidrectangles: LG 27UK850-W 4K HDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2016 I want to see a comparison between a 1080 and 980ti that are roughly at the same clock speed. Would be interesting to see how much the clock speed is affecting the performance gain. @Slick [Out-of-date] Want to learn how to make your own custom Windows 10 image? Desktop: AMD R9 3900X | ASUS ROG Strix X570-F | Radeon RX 5700 XT | EVGA GTX 1080 SC | 32GB Trident Z Neo 3600MHz | 1TB 970 EVO | 256GB 840 EVO | 960GB Corsair Force LE | EVGA G2 850W | Phanteks P400S Laptop: Intel M-5Y10c | Intel HD Graphics | 8GB RAM | 250GB Micron SSD | Asus UX305FA Server 01: Intel Xeon D 1541 | ASRock Rack D1541D4I-2L2T | 32GB Hynix ECC DDR4 | 4x8TB Western Digital HDDs | 32TB Raw 16TB Usable Server 02: Intel i7 7700K | Gigabye Z170N Gaming5 | 16GB Trident Z 3200MHz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2016 3 minutes ago, DeadEyePsycho said: I want to see a comparison between a 1080 and 980ti that are roughly at the same clock speed. Would be interesting to see how much the clock speed is affecting the performance gain. @Slick Ask DF then. LTT can't do proper benches Archangel (Desktop) CPU: i5 4590 GPU:Asus R9 280 3GB RAM:HyperX Beast 2x4GBPSU:SeaSonic S12G 750W Mobo:GA-H97m-HD3 Case:CM Silencio 650 Storage:1 TB WD RedCelestial (Laptop 1) CPU:i7 4720HQ GPU:GTX 860M 4GB RAM:2x4GB SK Hynix DDR3Storage: 250GB 850 EVO Model:Lenovo Y50-70Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VTWindows 10 is now MSX! - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/440190-can-we-start-calling-windows-10/page-6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2016 3 minutes ago, don_svetlio said: Ask DF then. LTT can't do proper benches #shotsfired Nah I agree. LTT's quality content is stuff like SYW and "turn you dead hard drive into a magnetic parts tray". DF didn't benchmark GTA V though We have a NEW and GLORIOUSER-ER-ER PSU Tier List Now. (dammit @LukeSavenije stop coming up with new ones) You can check out the old one that gave joy to so many across the land here Computer having a hard time powering on? Troubleshoot it with this guide. (Currently looking for suggestions to update it into the context of <current year> and make it its own thread) Computer Specs: Spoiler Mathresolvermajig: Intel Xeon E3 1240 (Sandy Bridge i7 equivalent) Chillinmachine: Noctua NH-C14S Framepainting-inator: EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 Hybrid Attachcorethingy: Gigabyte H61M-S2V-B3 Infoholdstick: Corsair 2x4GB DDR3 1333 Computerarmor: Silverstone RL06 "Lookalike" Rememberdoogle: 1TB HDD + 120GB TR150 + 240 SSD Plus + 1TB MX500 AdditionalPylons: Phanteks AMP! 550W (based on Seasonic GX-550) Letterpad: Rosewill Apollo 9100 (Cherry MX Red) Buttonrodent: Razer Viper Mini + Huion H430P drawing Tablet Auralnterface: Sennheiser HD 6xx Liquidrectangles: LG 27UK850-W 4K HDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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