First GTX 1080 Review is HERE!

[Kimmers]

3 minutes ago, -BirdiE- said:

You can ignore logic and have your subjective opinion all you want, but objectively it is actually a much better value. 60% extra performance for an extra 33% cost, or 30% extra performance for 0% extra cost.

Yup according to LTT price/performance benchmarks. The 1080 is a healthy 30% increase of price to performance compared to SLI 980s.

[Energycore]

1 minute ago, -BirdiE- said:

You can ignore logic and have your subjective opinion all you want, but objectively it is actually a much better value. 60% extra performance for an extra 33% cost, or 30% extra performance for 0% extra cost.

The numbers I ran show it to be an OK value, not as much as a 980 since the prices were driven down to $370 and still not as good as a 980 Ti, priced right now. For $600 it would beat both.

[Unhelpful]

1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

 

It is $65 more than a 980 ti. They can be found for $530 atm, and the 1080 will be $600. So you are correct. It is not $60  

[-BirdiE-]

1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

It's not 60$ more than a 980 Ti   and it costs 60% more than a 980

600/450 = 1.33 = 33% more than a 980. Talking about 60% over the 980. 30% over a 980ti for 0% more cost.

[Energycore]

Just now, Kimmers said:

Yup according to LTT price/performance benchmarks. The 1080 is a healthy 30% increase of price to performance compared to the 980.

 

The 980 has better price / performance now that it's $395

 

[Prysin]

1 minute ago, JoeyDM said:

At $700, I agree. At $600? Looks pretty damn good for $600, which won't take too long to be available.

549 USD, is a good deal. 600 -> not there yet.

remember, the BIG selling point of this generation is HDR for a hugely improved picture quality and higher refresh monitors (240Hz comin this year). Adding this cost to the mix. the 1080, for the performance it will deliver at 10bit 2560x1440, is NOT a "huge deal".

 

10bit 1920x1080p will be something similar to powering 1440p 8bit at 75-100 FPS, simply due to all the increased amount of data you get from adding more data to each pixel

[Spectrez]

 

2 minutes ago, -BirdiE- said:

Link to new 980 for $300 USD plz?

Newegg

 

close enough

[Mew]

17 minutes ago, Energycore said:

We'll have to see how much time shortly means, I wouldn't be surprised if it took a while (and then I still think Nvidia misled people by stating $600 MSRP and not having $600 cards available at launch). But at least I'm getting the sentiment from this post that a lot of LTTers wouldn't buy the card at $700. It's not that the price / performance is terrible at that price.

They said AIB partners using aftermarket coolers will have an suggested retail price of $599 (they can go higher if they want at the expense of less sales). Another thing, the 1080 launches on the 27th, not today. http://www.anandtech.com/show/10304/nvidia-announces-the-geforce-gtx-1080-1070

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, -BirdiE- said:

600/450 = 1.33 = 33% more than a 980. Talking about 60% over the 980. 30% over a 980ti for 0% more cost.

980 is 400$ atm
1080 can only be bought for 700$ concurrently

[-BirdiE-]

2 minutes ago, Energycore said:

The numbers I ran show it to be an OK value, not as much as a 980 since the prices were driven down to $370 and still not as good as a 980 Ti, priced right now. For $600 it would beat both.

I feel like you're confused. The cheapest 980ti out there is the same price as a 1080, and the 1080 outperforms it by 30%... Not sure how it beats anything.

[Kimmers]

1 minute ago, Spectrez said:

 

Newegg

 

close enough

Since when was a 33% difference close enough.

[-BirdiE-]

1 minute ago, Spectrez said:

 

Newegg

 

close enough

$398 /= $300

[Mew]

22 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

You bet. More so even if it's 14nm LPP

I wouldn't if they have the same VR technology as nvidia where instead of rendering each eye, it renders the whole image once. If not, AMD is going to be at a pretty sizeable disadvantage. 

[Nineshadow]

A GTX 980 still costs ~$650 here, don't know about you guys.

[Energycore]

1 minute ago, -BirdiE- said:

I feel like you're confused. The cheapest 980ti out there is the same price as a 1080, and the 1080 outperforms it by 30%... Not sure how it beats anything.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-gtx980tigamingle

 

The cheapest 980 Ti is $565 with a $30 rebate card. I'm not confused, you just didn't read my post.

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, kurahk7 said:

I wouldn't if they have the same VR technology as nvidia where instead of rendering each eye, it renders the whole image once. If not, AMD is going to be at a pretty sizeable disadvantage. 

We are yet to see.

[Prysin]

1 minute ago, -BirdiE- said:

I feel like you're confused. The cheapest 980ti out there is the same price as a 1080, and the 1080 outperforms it by 30%... Not sure how it beats anything.

you're wrong

GTX 980 Ti 564 USD. This is for a decent aftermarket version. Albeit the GAMING LE versions are NON-binned GPUs, so they dont OC as well as the normal GAMING

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-gtx980tigamingle

[Kimmers]

Did a bit more researching.

 

Looks like the 1080 outperforms both the 980Ti and 980s in SLI by 30% for the same price.

[Energycore]

Just now, Nineshadow said:

A GTX 980 still costs ~$650 here, don't know about you guys.

Ouch. And prices in Europe for the 1080 are going to be very steep too.

 

 

[-BirdiE-]

Just now, Energycore said:

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-gtx980tigamingle

 

The cheapest 980 Ti is $565 with a $30 rebate card. I'm not confused, you just didn't read my post.

Alright. So the 1080 offers 30% more performance for an extra 6.1% cost. Still not sure how the 980ti is a better deal.

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, Kimmers said:

Did a bit more researching.

 

Looks like the 1080 outperforms both the 980Ti and 980s in SLI by 30% for the same price.

Yeah, no. SLI is not what we are talking about. It doesn't scale perfectly and 980 Ti SLI is in no way bellow a 1080

[Energycore]

1 minute ago, Prysin said:

you're wrong

GTX 980 Ti 564 USD. This is for a decent aftermarket version. Albeit the GAMING LE versions are NON-binned GPUs, so they dont OC as well as the normal GAMING

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-gtx980tigamingle

At least it being a non-binned chip makes it a bit more comparable to the reference 1080 since that one's also a non-binned chip.

[Energycore]

1 minute ago, -BirdiE- said:

Alright. So the 1080 offers 30% more performance for an extra 6.1% cost. Still not sure how the 980ti is a better deal.

Like I said in the post, it's a better deal at $600 and worse at $700.

[-BirdiE-]

1 minute ago, Prysin said:

you're wrong

GTX 980 Ti 564 USD. This is for a decent aftermarket version. Albeit the GAMING LE versions are NON-binned GPUs, so they dont OC as well as the normal GAMING

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-gtx980tigamingle

600/564 = 1.063 = 6.3% more for a 1080, but 30% performance increase.

[Kimmers]

1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

Yeah, no. SLI is not what we are talking about. It doesn't scale perfectly and 980 Ti SLI is in no way bellow a 1080

Nobody said anything about 980Ti's in SLI.