ETEKNIX: Apple Music is Stealing Users’ Songs

[thekeemo]

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Users of Apple’s iTunes platform have been complaining for years about the software taking liberties with their local music catalogue, with files being renamed, moved, or even deleted. Now, it seems that Apple is cranking up its level of interference with user’s music files, with reports that Apple Music is not just deleting songs from user’s computers, but uploading them to Apple’s cloud servers and serving them back to them on-demand.

Writer and composer James Pinkstone has revealed that, after he signed up for Apple Music, 122GB of music on his system disappeared. Following a conversation with an Apple customer service adviser, he discovered that Apple Music had deleted this content automatically, but not before uploading to the cloud. If Pinkstone wanted to listen the songs that he previously owned, be had to do so via Apple Music.

This means to listen to the music you previously ripped or downloaded you have to pay apple money.

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“Through the Apple Music subscription, which I had, Apple now deletes files from its users’ computers,” Pinkstone wrote in a Huffington Post article. “When I signed up for Apple Music, iTunes evaluated my massive collection of Mp3s and WAV files, scanned Apple’s database for what it considered matches, then removed the original files from my internal hard drive. REMOVED them. Deleted.”

It of course doesnt tell you it will do that.

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“If Apple serves me my music, that means that when I don’t have wifi access, I can’t listen to it. When I say “my music,” I don’t just mean the music that, over twenty years (since before iTunes existed), I painstakingly imported from thousands of CDs and saved to my computer’s internal hard drive. I also mean original music that I recorded and saved to my computer. Apple and wifi access now decide if I can hear it, and where, and when.”
“What Apple considers a “match” often isn’t. That rare, early version of Fountains of Wayne’s “I’ll Do The Driving,” labeled as such? Still had its same label, but was instead replaced by the later-released, more widely available version of the song. The piano demo of “Sister Jack” that I downloaded directly from Spoon’s website ten years ago? Replaced with the alternate, more common demo version of the song. What this means, then, is that Apple is engineering a future in which rare, or varying, mixes and versions of songs won’t exist unless Apple decides they do. Said alternate versions will be replaced by the most mainstream version, despite their original, at-one-time correct, titles, labels, and file contents.”
“Although I could click the little cloud icon next to each song title and “get it back” from Apple, their servers aren’t fast enough to make it an easy task. It would take around thirty hours to get my music back. And even then…”
“Should I choose to reclaim my songs via download, the files I would get back would not necessarily be the same as my original files. As a freelance composer, I save WAV files of my own compositions rather than Mp3s. WAV files have about ten times the number of samples, so they just sound better. Since Apple Music does not support WAV files, as they stole my compositions and stored them in their servers, they also converted them to Mp3s or AACs. So not only do I need to keep paying Apple Music just to access my own files, but I have to hear an inferior version of each recording instead of the one I created.”

And to top it off the EULA of course says this.

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Of course, this practice is listed in the Apple Music End-User License Agreement, which protects the company against any legal action in this case, despite its unethical behaviour. The Apple customer service representative, Amber, that Pinkstone spoke on the phone to admitted that she does not use Apple Music for this very reason. Thankfully, Pinkstone was able to recover his music collection from a personal back-up. Otherwise, he would have been forced to listen to music he owned through Apple’s streaming platform, or download bastardised versions of his original tracks.

The fact that Apple is interfering with your files without express permission from users – there’s a difference between hiding a default function in a EULA and asking a user whether they want a thing to happen – is bad enough, but the company is taking ownership of songs that it has not produced, has no agreed rights to, and no legal grounds for controlling. That is theft.

http://www.eteknix.com/apple-music-stealing-users-songs/

[Notional]

Read it. Absolutely horrible. What a useless and damaging service.

[Dabombinable]

Lets start #fapple

[MoonlightSylv]

2 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

Lets start #fapple

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[Notional]

3 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

Lets start #fapple

I don't think you thought that one through.

[Railgun]

and that's the last straw. I don't care how simple or secure my iphone 6 is, next time I get an upgrade Im moving to the S7 or something.

 

But for now, ANYONE KNOW OF A GOOD APP THAT I CAN USE TO SUBSTITUTE CRAPPLE MUSIC?

[Belgarathian]

I don't know how this happened for this guy, but I had to tell iTunes to delete my library from my secondary computers. - This guy was probably furiously masturbating away to pictures of himself and flagged the popup and then blamed Apple when it complied with his request. 

 

http://www.imore.com/no-apple-music-not-deleting-tracks-your-hard-drive-unless-you-tell-it

 

http://www.cnet.com/au/how-to/no-apple-music-doesnt-delete-your-files/

[themctipers]

This is why I use spotify and soundcloud instead of apple music on my iphone

c:
 

[themctipers]

4 minutes ago, Railgun said:

and that's the last straw. I don't care how simple or secure my iphone 6 is, next time I get an upgrade Im moving to the S7 or something.

 

But for now, ANYONE KNOW OF A GOOD APP THAT I CAN USE TO SUBSTITUTE CRAPPLE MUSIC?

Spotify

Soundcloud

Monstercat podcast!

[Railgun]

2 minutes ago, themctipers said:

Spotify

Soundcloud

Monstercat podcast!

but can I use these to listen to files stored onto my phone?

 

EDIT: also apparently the topic of this thread might not be true after all. Oh well, I still want an S7

[Dabombinable]

6 minutes ago, Notional said:

I don't think you thought that one through.

Oh I did.

[themctipers]

Just now, Railgun said:

but can I use these to listen to files stored onto my phone?

Disable apple music

Settings -> Music

 

[thekeemo]

8 minutes ago, Railgun said:

and that's the last straw. I don't care how simple or secure my iphone 6 is, next time I get an upgrade Im moving to the S7 or something.

 

But for now, ANYONE KNOW OF A GOOD APP THAT I CAN USE TO SUBSTITUTE CRAPPLE MUSIC?

I use spotify.

If you want paid google music.

And yes at least on android.

[juretrn]

Not even surprising. 

[vanished]

So iTunes is basically ransomware?

[suicidalfranco]

28 minutes ago, Railgun said:

and that's the last straw. I don't care how simple or secure my iphone 6 is, next time I get an upgrade Im moving to the S7 or something.

 

But for now, ANYONE KNOW OF A GOOD APP THAT I CAN USE TO SUBSTITUTE CRAPPLE MUSIC?

streaming: spotify

local: vlc 

[manikyath]

crap like this is why my music is on a network drive, and offline backup, just like all my other important data.

 

upside is crap like this cant happen, downside is my home server decides its in a bad mood today so i dont get access to my music

[WelshDdraig]

24 minutes ago, Railgun said:

but can I use these to listen to files stored onto my phone?

 

EDIT: also apparently the topic of this thread might not be true after all. Oh well, I still want an S7

Try Poweramp. I bought it due t the crappy audio on my S3 and have kept using it over multiple devices. Plays almost any format as well.

[Fetzie]

Even Groove is better than that.

[WereCat]

They call it Apple Music for a reason. Otherwise they would call it Your Music.

[Bensemus]

2 hours ago, Belgarathian said:

http://www.imore.com/no-apple-music-not-deleting-tracks-your-hard-drive-unless-you-tell-it

 

http://www.cnet.com/au/how-to/no-apple-music-doesnt-delete-your-files/

Anyone actually read these links? It's not as bad as people are making it out to be. User error seems to be a major part of it. And nothing will happen to the originals unless the user initiates the action.

[M4st4M1nd]

Completely useless service. I use Google Play Music. Atleast I get to choose what I upload and stream and what I want locally. Feel really sorry for this guy.

[ThreePinkApples]

I've read discussions about this piece already, and the wide conclusion is that this guy must have clicked to accept this behaviour sometime, and just not noticed/forgotten about it. Several people report that they get a popup asking them to do this, but no one have said it happened without consent (except for this guy). So either he stumbled upon a bad bug, or he accepted it without knowing

[Bouzoo]

11 hours ago, Alexp10v2 said:

Try Poweramp. I bought it due t the crappy audio on my S3 and have kept using it over multiple devices. Plays almost any format as well.

Personally I think it's the best android player out there. Nothing came even close. 

I'd pay 29,99 instead od 2,99. 

But I'm not impressed with the bluetooth streaming quality in my car.  Only that. 

[Stefan1024]

Wait, wait, wait... They can take something from you and make you paying to get it (or an altered version) again?!? That's basicly haw kidnapping works.

Every other company would have been destroyed for dooing such stuff. Apple HW: overpriced but very good, apple SW: just the worst.