Posted April 10, 2016 Come on nvidia ! WE NEED MORE TRANSISTORS ! AMD Ryzen R7 1700 (3.8ghz) w/ NH-D14, EVGA RTX 2080 XC (stock), 4*4GB DDR4 3000MT/s RAM, Gigabyte AB350-Gaming-3 MB, CX750M PSU, 1.5TB SDD + 7TB HDD, Phanteks enthoo pro case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 10, 2016 Guess I gotta wait for the Titan / 1080ti / X80ti. Or may as well just wait for Volta. I'm sure this 970 is going to last awhile at 1920x1200 while I wait for 5K OLED G-Sync to appear in the wild and Windows scaling to be comparable to OSX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 11, 2016 2 hours ago, SurvivorNVL said: Guess I gotta wait for the Titan / 1080ti / X80ti. Or may as well just wait for Volta. I'm sure this 970 is going to last awhile at 1920x1200 while I wait for 5K OLED G-Sync to appear in the wild and Windows scaling to be comparable to OSX. I am waiting for Volta personally. Who knows maybe it will have a new DisplayPort version to support 5K display, which I might get if they drop in price by that time. I think, well for me, it will be a nice upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 11, 2016 7 minutes ago, GoodBytes said: I am waiting for Volta personally. Who knows maybe it will have a new DisplayPort version to support 5K display, which I might get if they drop in price by that time. I think, well for me, it will be a nice upgrade. I'm staying on my 1920x1200 as long as I can. It's sharp enough for the time being given how crap my eyes are thanks to steroids for five months. I might wait for Volta as well. I really like 4K at 32" and almost bought a monitor, but 5K will be the best hands down, especially for a long period of time. 5K, OLED, HDR, 120hz, G-Sync(hopefully), and preferably a Dell stand. Really, really--actually I can forfeit the G-Sync. I just want the Dell stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 11, 2016 14 hours ago, NumLock21 said: That was expected. HBM2 will cost the gtx1080 to sky rocket in price. Imo gddr5x not gddr5. No, GDDR5X is still not ready for GPUs coming mid-year. I don't read the reply to my posts anymore so don't bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 11, 2016 This is high density GDDR5, the last gasp versions that try to be relevant today in the high performance market. These will be the only option available until GDDR5X is available... Spartan 1.0 Spoiler CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120XL 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Extreme ATX LGA1150 MotherboardMemory: Corsair Dominator 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 MemoryStorage: OCZ Vector Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State DriveStorage: Seagate Desktop HDD 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Classified ACX 2.0 Video CardCase: Thermaltake Urban S41 ATX Mid Tower CasePower Supply: Corsair 1200W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power SupplyOptical Drive: LG BH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD WriterOptical Drive: LG BH10LS30 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD WriterOperating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bitSound Card: Creative Labs ZXR 24-bit 192 KHz Sound CardMonitor: 2x Asus VG278HE 27.0" 144Hz MonitorKeyboard: Logitech G19s Wired Gaming KeyboardKeyboard: Razer Orbweaver Elite Mechanical Gaming Keypad Wired Gaming KeyboardMouse: Logitech G700s Wireless Laser MouseHeadphones: Creative Labs EVO ZxR 7.1 Channel HeadsetSpeakers: Creative Labs GigaWorks T40 Series II 32W 2ch Speakers Hades 1.0 Spoiler Laptop: Dell Alienware 15 2015 CPU: i7-4720HQ CPU Memory: 16GB DDR3 SODIMM RAM Storage: 256GB M.2 SSD Storage: 1TB 5400rpm 2.5" HDD Screen: 15.6" FHD Display Video Card: Nvidia GTX 970M with 3GB Operating System: Windows 10 Pro Project: Spartan 1.2 PLEASE SUPPORT ME NEW CHANNEL > Tech Inquisition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 11, 2016 13 hours ago, GoodBytes said: As I mentioned many many times, and ignore, is that Pascal is NOT a new architecture. It is still Maxwell, just tweaked, and added features enough to have a new name, but still very close to Maxwell. Volta is Nvidia next architecture and that is expected for 2017-2018. Now, like always, there might be a Titan version with HBM2 memory, as those are Tesla chips that doesn't meet Nvidia specifications/requirement to meet Tesla model. But ignoring that, as this is a high end and very expensive model, there is not much to get excited really about. We may have GDDR5X though, which will help things. Wow this is good information, makes me unfortunately less optimistic about Pascal. How about Polaris, how is it different from the architecture before it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 11, 2016 6 minutes ago, Mirdon said: Wow this is good information, makes me unfortunately less optimistic about Pascal. How about Polaris, how is it different from the architecture before it? Notional explained it earlier - go to page 1 and look up his post Archangel (Desktop) CPU: i5 4590 GPU:Asus R9 280 3GB RAM:HyperX Beast 2x4GBPSU:SeaSonic S12G 750W Mobo:GA-H97m-HD3 Case:CM Silencio 650 Storage:1 TB WD RedCelestial (Laptop 1) CPU:i7 4720HQ GPU:GTX 860M 4GB RAM:2x4GB SK Hynix DDR3Storage: 250GB 850 EVO Model:Lenovo Y50-70Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VTWindows 10 is now MSX! - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/440190-can-we-start-calling-windows-10/page-6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, don_svetlio said: Notional explained it earlier - go to page 1 and look up his post Oh, thanks didn't notice it. I gotta stop using free scroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 11, 2016 11 hours ago, Coaxialgamer said: Come on nvidia ! WE NEED MORE TRANSISTORS ! Spoiler Quiet Whirl | CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 Mobo: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3200 Mhz Graphics card: MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER GAMING X TRIO PSU: Corsair RMx Series RM550x Case: Be quiet! Pure Base 600 Buffed HP | HP ProBook 430 G4 | CPU: Intel Core i3-7100U RAM: 4GB DDR4 2133Mhz GPU: Intel HD 620 SSD: Some 128GB M.2 SATA Retired: Melting plastic | Lenovo IdeaPad Z580 | CPU: Intel Core i7-3630QM RAM: 8GB DDR3 GPU: nVidia GeForce GTX 640M HDD: Western Digital 1TB The Roaring Beast | CPU: Intel Core i5 4690 (BCLK @ 104MHz = 4,05GHz) Cooler: Akasa X3 Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97-D3H RAM: Kingston 16GB DDR3 (2x8GB) Graphics card: Gigabyte GTX 970 4GB (Core: +130MHz, Mem: +230MHz) SSHD: Seagate 1TB SSD: Samsung 850 Evo 500GB HHD: WD Red 4TB PSU: Fractal Design Essence 500W Case: Zalman Z11 Plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 11, 2016 10 minutes ago, matrix07012 said: Archangel (Desktop) CPU: i5 4590 GPU:Asus R9 280 3GB RAM:HyperX Beast 2x4GBPSU:SeaSonic S12G 750W Mobo:GA-H97m-HD3 Case:CM Silencio 650 Storage:1 TB WD RedCelestial (Laptop 1) CPU:i7 4720HQ GPU:GTX 860M 4GB RAM:2x4GB SK Hynix DDR3Storage: 250GB 850 EVO Model:Lenovo Y50-70Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VTWindows 10 is now MSX! - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/440190-can-we-start-calling-windows-10/page-6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 11, 2016 17 hours ago, don_svetlio said: GDDR5? GP106 die is as small as GM206 - not good. How is that not good when it is at almost half the process node size? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 11, 2016 8 minutes ago, LukeTim said: How is that not good when it is at almost half the process node size? the GM206 core was absurdly small - not ike past *60 cores. This trend results in a poorer value as the 960 is now simply not worth considering the 380(x) exist. 760 was much more competitive and the 660 before that Archangel (Desktop) CPU: i5 4590 GPU:Asus R9 280 3GB RAM:HyperX Beast 2x4GBPSU:SeaSonic S12G 750W Mobo:GA-H97m-HD3 Case:CM Silencio 650 Storage:1 TB WD RedCelestial (Laptop 1) CPU:i7 4720HQ GPU:GTX 860M 4GB RAM:2x4GB SK Hynix DDR3Storage: 250GB 850 EVO Model:Lenovo Y50-70Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VTWindows 10 is now MSX! - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/440190-can-we-start-calling-windows-10/page-6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 11, 2016 GDDR5 ?! Last month they said (or was it rumour???) that this year cards will feature gddr5 and gddr5x and next year they release hbm2 cards. Anyone here heard this too ??? Hope comupteX (or whatever event is coming soon) will clear everything up about Pascal otherwise Nvidia will get so much hate for not talking about Pascal GTX line ... Connection: 200mbps / 12mbps 5Ghz wifi My baby: CPU - i7-4790, MB - Z97-A, RAM - Corsair Veng. LP 16gb, GPU - MSI GTX 1060, PSU - CXM 600, Storage - Evo 840 120gb, MX100 256gb, WD Blue 1TB, Cooler - Hyper Evo 212, Case - Corsair Carbide 200R, Monitor - Benq XL2430T 144Hz, Mouse - FinalMouse, Keyboard -K70 RGB, OS - Win 10, Audio - DT990 Pro, Phone - iPhone SE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 11, 2016 Sorry if I'm not gettin this right, but as I understand this, they will put GDDR5 Memory on these cards and no HBM? By the way since you were discussing it earlier, Hardwarecanuks or whatever their channels name is, posted a video on youtube from that event where nVidia revealed Pascal... They said that HBM1 was limited to 4GB, while HBM2 will indeed be able to support up to 32GB (probably hasn't been tested and manufactured yet but as I understand it, 32GB is theoretically possible...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 11, 2016 1 hour ago, don_svetlio said: the GM206 core was absurdly small - not ike past *60 cores. This trend results in a poorer value as the 960 is now simply not worth considering the 380(x) exist. 760 was much more competitive and the 660 before that Perhaps it is a problem... but it is the same size and almost twice as dense... so perhaps not so much of a problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 11, 2016 9 minutes ago, Skyh4wk said: Sorry if I'm not gettin this right, but as I understand this, they will put GDDR5 Memory on these cards and no HBM? By the way since you were discussing it earlier, Hardwarecanuks or whatever their channels name is, posted a video on youtube from that event where nVidia revealed Pascal... They said that HBM1 was limited to 4GB, while HBM2 will indeed be able to support up to 32GB (probably hasn't been tested and manufactured yet but as I understand it, 32GB is theoretically possible...) I heard there is limited amount of HBM and since AMD uses it too AMD it is new tech, Nvidia needs more time to start mass producing it around beginning of next year. The post I read also said there would be cards with gddr5x this year but now it seems all confusing to me. We have to wait for Nvidia to present GTX Pascal at upcoming tech event (computer ?!) Connection: 200mbps / 12mbps 5Ghz wifi My baby: CPU - i7-4790, MB - Z97-A, RAM - Corsair Veng. LP 16gb, GPU - MSI GTX 1060, PSU - CXM 600, Storage - Evo 840 120gb, MX100 256gb, WD Blue 1TB, Cooler - Hyper Evo 212, Case - Corsair Carbide 200R, Monitor - Benq XL2430T 144Hz, Mouse - FinalMouse, Keyboard -K70 RGB, OS - Win 10, Audio - DT990 Pro, Phone - iPhone SE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 11, 2016 1 hour ago, LukeTim said: How is that not good when it is at almost half the process node size? That post you qouted really smacks of fangirlism... doesn't it? 11 minutes ago, Thony said: GDDR5 ?! Last month they said (or was it rumour???) that this year cards will feature gddr5 and gddr5x and next year they release hbm2 cards. Anyone here heard this too ??? Yes, although each in different contexts... 11 minutes ago, Skyh4wk said: Sorry if I'm not gettin this right, but as I understand this, they will put GDDR5 Memory on these cards and no HBM? By the way since you were discussing it earlier, Hardwarecanuks or whatever their channels name is, posted a video on youtube from that event where nVidia revealed Pascal... They said that HBM1 was limited to 4GB, while HBM2 will indeed be able to support up to 32GB (probably hasn't been tested and manufactured yet but as I understand it, 32GB is theoretically possible...) GP104/106 will run with GDDR5, as GDDR5X is too late... GP100 (Big Pascal) will run HBM2, which supports stack configs up to 4x 8GB... 32GB Spartan 1.0 Spoiler CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120XL 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Extreme ATX LGA1150 MotherboardMemory: Corsair Dominator 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 MemoryStorage: OCZ Vector Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State DriveStorage: Seagate Desktop HDD 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Classified ACX 2.0 Video CardCase: Thermaltake Urban S41 ATX Mid Tower CasePower Supply: Corsair 1200W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power SupplyOptical Drive: LG BH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD WriterOptical Drive: LG BH10LS30 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD WriterOperating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bitSound Card: Creative Labs ZXR 24-bit 192 KHz Sound CardMonitor: 2x Asus VG278HE 27.0" 144Hz MonitorKeyboard: Logitech G19s Wired Gaming KeyboardKeyboard: Razer Orbweaver Elite Mechanical Gaming Keypad Wired Gaming KeyboardMouse: Logitech G700s Wireless Laser MouseHeadphones: Creative Labs EVO ZxR 7.1 Channel HeadsetSpeakers: Creative Labs GigaWorks T40 Series II 32W 2ch Speakers Hades 1.0 Spoiler Laptop: Dell Alienware 15 2015 CPU: i7-4720HQ CPU Memory: 16GB DDR3 SODIMM RAM Storage: 256GB M.2 SSD Storage: 1TB 5400rpm 2.5" HDD Screen: 15.6" FHD Display Video Card: Nvidia GTX 970M with 3GB Operating System: Windows 10 Pro Project: Spartan 1.2 PLEASE SUPPORT ME NEW CHANNEL > Tech Inquisition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 11, 2016 27 minutes ago, GidonsClaw said: That post you qouted really smacks of fangirlism... doesn't it? Yes, although each in different contexts... GP104/106 will run with GDDR5, as GDDR5X is too late... GP100 (Big Pascal) will run HBM2, which supports stack configs up to 4x 8GB... 32GB Do you think we will see a Pascal Titan this year? I dont as the GP100 tesla will not become widespread until next year Current Rig: CPU: AMD 1950X @4Ghz. Cooler: Enermax Liqtech TR4 360. Motherboard:Asus Zenith Extreme. RAM: 8GB Crucial DDR4 3666. GPU: Reference GTX 970 SSD: 250GB Samsung 970 EVO. HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 2TB. Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro. PSU: Corsair RM1000X. OS: Windows 10 Pro UEFI mode (installed on SSD) Peripherals: Display: Acer XB272 1080p 240Hz G Sync Keyboard: Corsair K95 RGB Brown Mouse: Logitech G502 RGB Headhet: Roccat XTD 5.1 analogue Daily Devices:Sony Xperia XZ1 Compact and 128GB iPad Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 11, 2016 18 minutes ago, asim1999 said: Do you think we will see a Pascal Titan this year? I dont as the GP100 tesla will not become widespread until next year Nope, GP100 will become mainstream around Q1 2017 Spartan 1.0 Spoiler CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120XL 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Extreme ATX LGA1150 MotherboardMemory: Corsair Dominator 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 MemoryStorage: OCZ Vector Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State DriveStorage: Seagate Desktop HDD 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Classified ACX 2.0 Video CardCase: Thermaltake Urban S41 ATX Mid Tower CasePower Supply: Corsair 1200W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power SupplyOptical Drive: LG BH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD WriterOptical Drive: LG BH10LS30 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD WriterOperating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bitSound Card: Creative Labs ZXR 24-bit 192 KHz Sound CardMonitor: 2x Asus VG278HE 27.0" 144Hz MonitorKeyboard: Logitech G19s Wired Gaming KeyboardKeyboard: Razer Orbweaver Elite Mechanical Gaming Keypad Wired Gaming KeyboardMouse: Logitech G700s Wireless Laser MouseHeadphones: Creative Labs EVO ZxR 7.1 Channel HeadsetSpeakers: Creative Labs GigaWorks T40 Series II 32W 2ch Speakers Hades 1.0 Spoiler Laptop: Dell Alienware 15 2015 CPU: i7-4720HQ CPU Memory: 16GB DDR3 SODIMM RAM Storage: 256GB M.2 SSD Storage: 1TB 5400rpm 2.5" HDD Screen: 15.6" FHD Display Video Card: Nvidia GTX 970M with 3GB Operating System: Windows 10 Pro Project: Spartan 1.2 PLEASE SUPPORT ME NEW CHANNEL > Tech Inquisition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 11, 2016 I thought GDDR5X was gonna be mid-high end range for this generation... welp. I hope AMD offer better crap than these suckers. ROG X570-F Strix | AMD R9 5900X | EK Elite 360 | EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra | G.Skill Trident Z Neo 64gb | Samsung 980 PRO ROG Strix XG349C | Corsair 4000 | Bose C5 | ROG Swift PG279Q Logitech G810 Orion | Sennheiser HD 518 | Logitech 502 Hero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 11, 2016 Good thing I recycled my GTX 760 and snapped up a used 290x last year. Looks like it's going another round around the lap. And as expected, Nvidia's strategy for taking advantage of higher transistor density is... Smaller dies. 100% profit increase on their 650% profit margin incoming. AMD save us In case the moderators do not ban me as requested, this is a notice that I have left and am not coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 11, 2016 6 hours ago, don_svetlio said: the GM206 core was absurdly small - not ike past *60 cores. This trend results in a poorer value as the 960 is now simply not worth considering the 380(x) exist. 760 was much more competitive and the 660 before that Still using my old prebuilt with gtx 660 here, runs still gta v Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 11, 2016 9 hours ago, That Norwegian Guy said: AMD save us Highly unlikely they'll be using GDDR5X also... unless they want to concede market share to Nvidia again by release later than them... Spartan 1.0 Spoiler CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120XL 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Extreme ATX LGA1150 MotherboardMemory: Corsair Dominator 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 MemoryStorage: OCZ Vector Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State DriveStorage: Seagate Desktop HDD 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Classified ACX 2.0 Video CardCase: Thermaltake Urban S41 ATX Mid Tower CasePower Supply: Corsair 1200W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power SupplyOptical Drive: LG BH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD WriterOptical Drive: LG BH10LS30 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD WriterOperating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bitSound Card: Creative Labs ZXR 24-bit 192 KHz Sound CardMonitor: 2x Asus VG278HE 27.0" 144Hz MonitorKeyboard: Logitech G19s Wired Gaming KeyboardKeyboard: Razer Orbweaver Elite Mechanical Gaming Keypad Wired Gaming KeyboardMouse: Logitech G700s Wireless Laser MouseHeadphones: Creative Labs EVO ZxR 7.1 Channel HeadsetSpeakers: Creative Labs GigaWorks T40 Series II 32W 2ch Speakers Hades 1.0 Spoiler Laptop: Dell Alienware 15 2015 CPU: i7-4720HQ CPU Memory: 16GB DDR3 SODIMM RAM Storage: 256GB M.2 SSD Storage: 1TB 5400rpm 2.5" HDD Screen: 15.6" FHD Display Video Card: Nvidia GTX 970M with 3GB Operating System: Windows 10 Pro Project: Spartan 1.2 PLEASE SUPPORT ME NEW CHANNEL > Tech Inquisition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 12, 2016 On 4/10/2016 at 11:34 AM, SparkyRain said: BUT GRADE WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.. Is it this time again? What it's gonna be. A gpu, 20% more fps and 30% less fps per dollar. I don't know what you people thought what else it's gonna be. Nvidia has zero need to rush anything since the market is so milkable. Actually there is only one price range that Nvidia is actually more competitive at currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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