New FO4 patch brings "nVidia only" weapon debris effects.

[dragosudeki]

It blows my mind that people are seeing this as nVidia being anti-competitive. Bethesda added this because a technology developed by nVidia allowed them to do that. If you think "being competitive" means spending money on R&D only to share that technology with your competition, you're out to lunch.

 

It's not like anything in the game is being taken away from people with AMD cards... The options were to add it for people with nVidia cards, or don't add it at all. I'm glad they chose to enable it for some, rather than allowing none to have it.

 

Anyone complaining is simply bitter because they have an AMD card and don't get it.

I agree, but I'm also disappointed that we will never see a game that supports Nvidia tech and AMD tech (unless a game I'm unaware of that does that). In the end, the gun debris effect doesn't make a big difference to me.

[grayperview]

So you gonna ignore Borderlands 2, pre-sequal, mafia 2, AC black flag and Metro LL ? All those games from my experience physx is fine on them. They do have a performance hit ( not that significant ) but that's expected.

What's your point about project cars physx ? It's known that it is CPU only and that gives a significant performance hit.

Physx is great I agree, but I disagree about execution bring garbage, I think if just depends on that developer, what physx features they implemant and if they make it CPU bound or not.

I actually used to play Mafia 2 (amazing game) on 2 GTX560 in SLI and with one dedicated to physX and at the time it ran like crap, it went for 100+fps average to under 40fps average, and never over the 60fps average....

 

I can't comment on AC black flag, even though i have it i have never got around to playing it, and i don't have Metro LL, i do have metro 2033 though which as physx, which also tanks the fps when you switch it on.

 

The problem with project cars is the whole physics engine runs on physX which tanks the frame rate significantly on AMD cards, and there is no way around it, where as if it had use havoc for physics the game would have run fantastic on both brands of cards.

 

Propriety implementations are bad for the industry, Apple gets crucified for pulling this shit, why should Nvidia be allowed to get away with it.

[Switchblade Ninja]

peopel still play fallout 4?

i dunno how i got even 20h on that game... the game feels so shitty

[MEC-777]

Cool. 

[FellTheSky]

lmao amd fangays disliking the video. Nvidia pushes quality forward with new effects and such, why would they share with AMD the result of millions in research and development? You guys have absolutely no idea what means to be "anti competitive"

[ShaithEatery]

i dunno how i got even 20h on that game... the game feels so shitty

 

I just passed 100 hours and still going...feels great to me.  But then again I have 2x 980s in SLI so I guess I'm their target consumer lol.

 

Seriously though, it seems like an issue where Nvidia is putting these tools out there and the devs are able to use them or not use them.  Nobody here knows what kinds of contracts or support-deals Nvidia specifically makes with big devs like this and whether or not Gameworks is part of it.  If someone has a contract to put out there showing that Nvidia will not help a dev optimize their game (this does happen from what I understand, and is why game-specific drivers are able to be developed) unless they use Nvidia's proprietary technologies, I'd like to see it.

[Dabombinable]

I just passed 100 hours and still going...feels great to me.  But then again I have 2x 980s in SLI so I guess I'm their target consumer lol.

 

Seriously though, it seems like an issue where Nvidia is putting these tools out there and the devs are able to use them or not use them.  Nobody here knows what kinds of contracts or support-deals Nvidia specifically makes with big devs like this and whether or not Gameworks is part of it.  If someone has a contract to put out there showing that Nvidia will not help a dev unless they use Nvidia's proprietary technologies, I'd like to see it.

For me it looks ok (about as good as Skyrim with literally a few small graphics mods) but I've been finding it pretty boring. Some of the enemies that I'm supposedly not supposed to be able to beat when I'm at level 6 I can easily kill with a few shotgun rounds to the head while doing the old FPS bunny hop, and the side quests while OK for the most part can get annoying rapidly.

[ShaithEatery]

For me it looks ok (about as good as Skyrim with literally a few small graphics mods) but I've been finding it pretty boring. Some of the enemies that I'm supposedly not supposed to be able to beat when I'm at level 6 I can easily kill with a few shotgun rounds to the head while doing the old FPS bunny hop, and the side quests while OK for the most part can get annoying rapidly.

 

I just dabbled into some of the visual mods available and that has helped a lot, which tends to be the case with Bethesda games.  And I thought that enemy levels scaled with the player's level, so if you only did the main questline and didn't do anything to level up outside of that, you'd still be able to get through it just as well as if you didn't finish the main quest after 200+ hours of playtime.

 

The biggest thing that I have a problem with as far as the development/graphics side goes is their continuation of locking physics to frame rate.  Since they used the Skyrim engine (supposedly "heavily modified"), going past 60fps means weird things happen with physics, like items just randomly flying all over the place as soon as you enter a room.  My 980's shouldn't be locked at 72fps to play it reliably (144hz monitor, forced adaptive vsync half-refresh rate on).

[spartaman64]

you take the time to add this and not fix the bugs and glitches smh

[Ostwind]

All the complaining is great 

 

Oh no, you guys sure are gonna miss out on these sweet rocky bits that come off walls when you shoot them. How will you ever enjoy Fallout 4 again without this priceless feature that totally revolutionizes the entirety of the game?

 

I think a change.org petition should be setup to make Besthesda provide 980 Ti's to every AMD user who bought Fallout 4 so that they can enjoy the game to it's fullest potential without having to live through the horror of not having access a feature which is probably the most important and influential feature to ever be added to any game in the entire history of gaming.

[PolosElite23]

Well....I guess I need to go get a Nvidia card....

 

I'm joking, though I do need to get a new card at somepoint....