How long will Haswell (LGA 1150) last?

[The Official Czex]

In what? Are you saying DX12 won't last 3 years?

 

I just think they'll be obsolete by then.

[App4that]

I just think they'll be obsolete by then.

:lol: Yes because reasons I'm sure :rolleyes:

 

I'll make the appropriate arrangements for my 4790k. Glue factory?

[The Official Czex]

:lol: Yes because reasons I'm sure :rolleyes:

 

I'll make the appropriate arrangements for my 4790k. Glue factory?

 

Did you see how quickly high-end Z97 ITX MOBO' s flew off the shelves when Skylake came around? GG if you find a MAXIMUS VII IMPACT.

[App4that]

Did you see how quickly high-end Z97 ITX MOBO' s flew off the shelves when Skylake came around? GG if you find a MAXIMUS VII IMPACT.

And that means what exactly? Most CPU's are like sports cars, how many owners really use them the way they were engineered to be used? That's why they last so long compared to graphics cards that people drive like they rented them. A 4790k and 6700k in the hands of the average consumer are indistinguishable in daily tasks. Will be for years to come.

[The Official Czex]

And that means what exactly? Most CPU's are like sports cars, how many owners really use them the way they were engineered to be used? That's why they last so long compared to graphics cards that people drive like they rented them. A 4790k and 6700k in the hands of the average consumer are indistinguishable in daily tasks. Will be for years to come.

 

Lack of DDR4 support.

 

Higher maximum memory capacity.

 

Etc.

 

Things that will become paramount in the future.

[APasz]

Lack of DDR4 support.

 

Higher maximum memory capacity.

 

Etc.

 

Things that will become paramount in the future.

Your way overestimating the usefulness of ddr4 for everyday tasks. Heck even ddr2 will suffice for most everyday tasks.

[App4that]

Lack of DDR4 support.

 

Higher maximum memory capacity.

 

Etc.

 

Things that will become paramount in the future.

No, not in the next 3 years. 5 years from now, maybe. How many RAM sticks don't have a lifetime warranty, mine does. My MOBO has a five year.

 

Games are developed for the average computer at any given time. Or hadn't you noticed that 16g of ram is a waste right now, even though my MOBO supports 32g? For Haswell to be obsolete you first have to replace all the Haswell and equivalent PCs. So if you're correct then what ever "it" is that makes Haswell obsolete it will be cheap enough none of us will mind the upgrade

[The Official Czex]

Your way overestimating the usefulness of ddr4 for everyday tasks. Heck even ddr2 will suffice for most everyday tasks.

 

It's availability that's the issue. 

[App4that]

It's availability that's the issue. 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007611600006042

[The Official Czex]

No, not in the next 3 years. 5 years from now, maybe. How many RAM sticks don't have a lifetime warranty, mine does. My MOBO has a five year.

 

Games are developed for the average computer at any given time. Or hadn't you noticed that 16g of ram is a waste right now, even though my MOBO supports 32g? For Haswell to be obsolete you first have to replace all the Haswell and equivalent PCs. So if you're correct then what ever "it" is that makes Haswell obsolete it will be cheap enough none of us will mind the upgrade

When the prebuilts stop using Haswell. That's when it will happen.

[APasz]

It's availability that's the issue. 

I can still get ddr1/2 sticks online or at my local computer refurbishing shop.

yeah ddr3/4 are much easier to get right now but that doesn't mean it's impossible to get ddr1/2

[The Official Czex]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007611600006042

 

Not right now, you dundermuff!  :angry:

[App4that]

Not right now, you dundermuff!  :angry:

Link won't work as I wanted it to. You can still get DDR2 ram sticks. So where's the availability issue?

[The Official Czex]

Link won't work as I wanted it to. You can still get DDR2 ram sticks. So where's the availability issue?

 

You can get them, but it's not a standard anymore. I consider obsoletion the end of common support.

[APasz]

Not right now, you dundermuff!  :angry:

Newegg currently has 40 listing for 168 pin, 227 for DDR1, 565 for DDR2, 999+ for DDR3, 723 for DDR4.

[App4that]

You can get them, but it's not a standard anymore. I consider obsoletion the end of common support.

What? OK, your definition sucks, but it's yours. The rest of us will use the accepted definition. Glad we cleared that up.

 

Moving on.

[APasz]

For those who don't know, the accepted definition of obsolete is when official support has ended for a product or has otherwise been rendered useless.

 

Example, out of XP and Vista, which would you say is obsolete? The correct answer is XP not both because Microsoft has yet to end full support for Vista, they will end support in 2017.

[Marinatall_Ironside]

For those who don't know, the accepted definition of obsolete is when official support has ended for a product or has otherwise been rendered useless.

Yeah. Why are the previous GPUs (yeah a little off-topic) still official supported by both Nvidia and AMD? Because they know people are still using them for the time being until they can afford the newer technology or chooses to upgrade them. I mean it really is up to the end-user when to upgrade. It can be in two years, it can be in six years. Same goes to CPUs. If it's not in legacy support, then there is still official support. I hate it when when people (especially one of my adult friends who works in the IT biz and is Microsoft certified) say that people and companies have to upgrade every year when in fact there is still good life left in them and there is still official support that it is a waste to upgrade on an annual or biannual basis.

[v0id]

Far as I can tell Haswell will do most people just fine for 5 years conservatively. Even as games get better, more and more they seem to be relying the GPU instead of the CPU. A quad-core with eight threads should do the trick for many years as long as you got a banging graphics card to go with it.

[dizmo]

It's availability that's the issue. 

I don't think you quite understand what the OP meant. He meant how long will the CPU perform the way he wants, not how long can it be purchased new from a shop.

[i_build_nanosuits]

Those are five years old man. But I don't think you can ever assume that kind of run for another CPU. I mean the 2500k has to be the best gaming cpu ever made for its time.

my honest opinion on that?

with windows 10 and DX12 gaming on the horizon...i think a strong hyper-threaded quad-core like that might last even longer than that honestly.

low-level API...less CPU overhead...more drawcalls...better multi-threaded support...you know good stuff!

[Theminecraftaddict555]

When the prebuilts stop using Haswell. That's when it will happen.

Well it's going to take a while then

[Nena Trinity]

2-3+ years but probably if you are not to picky 4-5+?

[iHardware Shelden]

I look at it this way, manufacturing processes are slowing down and not changing as much as it use to. The Q6600 is almost 10 years old and is still an amazing chip. I would have to say an easy 10 years or until you have a hardware failure. 1150 will age well and you can probably (like I said) get 10+ years out of it unless something mind blowing comes out and changes everything. Less than 5 years is a joke IMO....

[FireFox]

how old is sandy bridge? that's probably how long it will last (in a gaming scenario at least).

5 years old in a month or so