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Now, you're whining.  Actually, you're whining again.

I'll restate what I just said since you obviously didn't read it and take the hint. Thank you for the constructive statement, you really proved to be an asset to the discussion.

 

Unless you can provide some sort of civilized and productive discussion I recommend not replying and making yourself look like a child.

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To be honest it isn't worth getting into a political argument with any of you. Assuming all three of you are left wingers, I've learned through my time in life that leftists believe only their opinions are correct

Funny, 'cuz I could say the exact same thing about conservatives. Debate that all you wish; it doesn't matter to me. All my life I've seen people that were exactly like you described except on the opposite end of the political spectrum. Don't pretend like your "side" is any more free of that.

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Yes, I'm a libertarian for reference and am not voting for either of them, most likely rand paul, though I wish he was more like his father ron

 

I liked listening to Ron Paul talk, his son... not so much.  Do you really believe, by your own criteria, that Ron Paul was not on the extreme side with what he had planned?

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Funny, 'cuz I could say the exact same thing about conservatives. Debate that all you wish; it doesn't matter to me. All my life I've seen people that were exactly like you described except on the opposite end of the political spectrum. Don't pretend like your "side" is any more free of that.

My "side" doesn't have the opportunity to do such things because they're constantly being scrutinized by the media and by liberals for having wrong views.

 

What constructive argument have you held?

You have zero credibility as of now, so anything you attempt to say to me will not be responded to.

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Trump would be classified as far right wing (comments about making mexico pay for a wall as an example) he is arrogant, and aggressive and wants to re-live the america "glory" days

 

Bernie is as far left as can be (socialist) he is very passive and forgiving (comments defending hilary as reference) he wants to push america to what he sees as the future

 

Key problems with both candidates Trump will make the world hate us more and likely will cause a large scale war if given to much military power, Bernie is a push over and seems weak and would bankrupt the country due to socialism causing issues with countries that have slowed population growth with a large percentage of old people. Either way these two candidates will not benefit the country.

 

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Curious, who would you vote for and why? And what do you have to say about that person's more unacceptable comments, views etc etc?

 

But America is already a joke

 

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My "side" doesn't have the opportunity to do such things because they're constantly being scrutinized by the media and by liberals for having wrong views.

 

 

Huh?  Maybe your "side" should be less wrong.  :(

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I liked listening to Ron Paul talk, his son... not so much.  Do you really believe, by your own criteria, that Ron Paul was not on the extreme side with what he had planned?

He was but** you have to give him credit for some things, he was against the war on drugs (as well as most wars in general) is pro limited government, against NSA spying, and was fiscally conservative and socially liberal which is my preference, however I will admit things like legalizing cocaine were a little on the insane side, though really with politicians you either choose corrupt or crazy in the US and crazy seemed more interesting

 

As for his son he is like ron lite, but he leans more conservative (doesn't like gay marriage for instance) and feels social issues should be a state issue not a federal one

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+42

 

Curious, who would you vote for and why? And what do you have to say about that person's more unacceptable comments, views etc etc?

 

 

 

Rand Paul because he is against things like the NSA spying programs, pro states rights, and not a fan of big government in general, aka he would be less likely to go into countries as "peace-keepers" but also would not make a program like obama care obligatory (forced), actually he wouldn't make it in general as he is against federal meddling

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Rand Paul because he is against things like the NSA spying programs, pro states rights, and not a fan of big government in general, aka he would be less likely to go into countries as "peace-keepers" but also would not make a program like obama care obligatory (forced)

 

Ah, okay. What do you think about his socially unacceptable views and plans though?

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My question was rhetorical, it didn't require an answer because you provided me with one.

 

You may as well be making rhetorical posts because I can't be bothered to argue with you anymore. 

 

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He was but** you have to give him credit for some things, he was against the war on drugs (as well as most wars in general) is pro limited government, against NSA spying, and was fiscally conservative and socially liberal which is my preference, however I will admit things like legalizing cocaine were a little on the insane side, though really with politicians you either choose corrupt or crazy in the US and crazy seemed more interesting

 

As for his son he is like ron lite, but he leans more conservative (doesn't like gay marriage for instance) and feels social issues should be a state issue not a federal one

 

Like I said, his speeches were a nice break from the mess way back when.  His perspective on having limited drug control (cocaine or whatever) has a very solid logic behind it.  The one thing I disagreed most with was his faith in a 100% free market economy, no regulation.  He would never have been allowed to enact any real measures to gain ground on that endeavor and for very good reason. 

 

Many aspects of policy deal with the quality of that life and measures to sustain each life.  When profit becomes the sole driver to helping others there will most certainly be a disparity of classes amongst the populous.  This leads to all sorts of serious and systemic problems for the social fabric of a society.  Many are quite observable in the USA (and other countries) today.  This is with controls in place.  I don't want to imagine it when all the controls are lifted.

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You might as well be making rhetorical posts because I can't be bothered to argue with you anymore. 

 

Have a nice day

Then stop bothering yourself and spend your time elsewhere. It's really that simple.

 

Btw, that didn't really make sense, but okay.

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the only reason why people are listing to trump is because hes a different kind of candidate who just speaks his mind thats how he gets votes but i think hes a complete moron and an asshole (i have met him personally at one of his golf courses)

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Ah, okay. What do you think about his socially unacceptable views and plans though?

He is not his father, so I'm not sure what plans of his are "socially unacceptable" I can tell you some of the views he has I disagree with, such as pro life, and anti gay marriage, though as for the latter he wished for the federal government to be left out of the decision (I couldn't care less what gays do it's their lives not mine), and make it a state issue solely, as for the pro life I don't care either way but my stance is abortion is ok if the baby can't survive if removed.

 

 

Like I said, his speeches were a nice break from the mess way back when.  His perspective on having limited drug control (cocaine or whatever) has a very solid logic behind it.  The one thing I disagreed most with was his faith in a 100% free market economy, no regulation.  He would never have been allowed to enact any real measures to gain ground on that endeavor and for very good reason. 

 

Many aspects of life deal with the quality of that life and measures to sustain each life.  When profit becomes the sole driver to helping others there will most certainly be a disparity of classes amongst the populous.  This leads to all sorts of serious and systemic problems for the social fabric of a society.  Many are quite observable in the USA (and other countries) today.  This is with controls in place.  I don't want to imagine it when all the controls are lifted.

Oh the no regulations thing, well I don't like regulations, but I see your point, honestly I think I'd just be happy if there were no parties making issues a binary thing when in reality no one fits perfectly into a box of ideas, also the parties are toxic and corrupt so my vote for Ron was a vote against US political parties as I loathe them immensely. The only issue with the no regulations thing is the same issue with communism, people are not honest.

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Oh the no regulations thing, well I don't like regulations, but I see your point, honestly I think I'd just be happy if there were no parties making issues a binary thing when in reality no one fits perfectly into a box of ideas, also the parties are toxic and corrupt so my vote for Ron was a vote against US political parties as I loathe them immensely. The only issue with the no regulations thing is the same issue with communism people are not honest.

 

It's all about the money man:  Legal Bribery (superpacs, lobbying, back room dealings).  That is something I would expect more people to look at someone like Sanders for:  no corporate masters.  Not saying his job would now be a cakewalk by any means.

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He is not his father, so I'm not sure what plans of his are "socially unacceptable" I can tell you some of the views he has I disagree with, such as pro life, and anti gay marriage, though as for the latter he wished for the federal government to be left out of the decision (I couldn't care less what gays do it's their lives not mine), and make it a state issue solely, as for the pro life I don't care either way but my stance is abortion is ok if the baby can't survive if removed.

 

 

Oh the no regulations thing, well I don't like regulations, but I see your point, honestly I think I'd just be happy if there were no parties making issues a binary thing when in reality no one fits perfectly into a box of ideas, also the parties are toxic and corrupt so my vote for Ron was a vote against US political parties as I loathe them immensely. The only issue with the no regulations thing is the same issue with communism, people are not honest.

 

That answers it. Oh, that's what is considered socially unacceptable: his views on gay marriage, abortion etc etc. One more question on it though: if he ran and got elected, and made something like marriage a state issue and those states decided against equal marriage rights, how would you react to it?

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The fact that Trump is even considered as a presidential candidate scares me.

 

Never underestimate the effect of a group of stupid people.

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How is Trump a racist?

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That answers it. Oh, that's what is considered socially unacceptable: his views on gay marriage, abortion etc etc. One more question on it though: if he ran and got elected, and made something like marriage a state issue and those states decided against equal marriage rights, how would you react to it?

I wouldn't really care that much tbh as it is not a strong issue for me, as I am neither gay nor a woman, (also I think marriage is silly) it would merely mildly annoy me, also the abortion thing though will not be able to be touched due to the supreme court, it's all about checks and balances

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I wonder how these smart, all-knowing people explain global warming and the greenhouse effect lol

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Keep the thread peaceful and clean. You guys know the outcome if it's not.

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I wonder how these smart, all-knowing people explain global warming and the greenhouse effect lol

 

It's not real... look!  a socialist!

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