"Dual-core iPhone 6s obliterates Galaxy S6, Note 5 and other top Android phones in performance tests"

[Alurit]

Are they not ARM designed like most phone CPUs?

most in quantity it is probably ARM who designs them the cortex ones most chinese phones have them so there is the quantity, most high end phones have cpus designed by Qualcomm based on arm, samsung recently stated including cpus in their phones that are own design those are the exyons also based on arm, apple designs their own 'A' series also based on arm, and asus buys intel's atom cpu's.

[s3ns3]

Since when is a 0.09% difference on the multi-core score enough to be classified as "obliterate"?

 

Those are some impressive single core performance numbers though, but I think it's kind of ridiculous to say it's better than the Note 5 and other top Android phones.

since the apple is dual core only. + all the properly optimised apps and OS for those exact dual cores. anyway think of it like intel vs amd

 

and thats what we should care about.not this stupid specs rush but software.

Edited September 23, 2015 by s3ns3

[Suika]

but not that much bigger.

So almost twice is "not that much?"

The iPhone has a 1700mAh battery and the Note 5 has a 3000mAh battery, that's a pretty big difference imo.

[Castdeath97]

Needs more real life tests, gaming benchmarks? Graphic benchmarks at least?

[Castdeath97]

So almost twice is "not that much?"

The iPhone has a 1700mAh battery and the Note 5 has a 3000mAh battery, that's a pretty big difference imo.

The 6 plus has 3000 mAh, I'm not sure about the 6S plus though.

 

Checked it, 2915 mAh pretty close.

[maazster]

Cnet are reporting only 1811 which is still impressive but is no where near what is shown in the article, skip to around 1 minute and 50 seconds

 

[Castdeath97]

No that's useless. Just a different design. Samsung is on big.Little you can see the 1 core performance and 4 core performance scale 1 to 3 pretty much which is great. The 4 small cores are power efficient though which is why Note 5 smashes iPhone 6 plus in battery, yes it has a bigger battery, but not that much bigger.

We haven't seen the battery tests yet. I will wait until gsm arena gets the tests done, last time the iPhone 6 plus scored 79 and the note 5 scored 87.

[syoumans54]

So basically it's like running a higher clocked i5, against a lower clocked i7 in only gaming.... Then saying that the i5 crushes the i7. :rolleyes:

[ZetZet]

We haven't seen the battery tests yet. I will wait until gsm arena gets the tests done, last time the iPhone 6 plus scored 79 and the note 5 scored 87.

iPhones score high because of their standby, which is software being great, actual device usage time is quite a bit lower.

[SirNumbers]

So basically it's like running a higher clocked i5, against a lower clocked i7 in only gaming.... Then saying that the i5 crushes the i7. :rolleyes:

No. Not at all. Its a more powerful core. Its like running a i7 Extreme edition vs an energy effecient version

[Sauron]

since the apple is dual core only. + all the properly optimised apps and OS for those exact dual cores. anyway think of it like intel vs amd

 

It's not the same thing, because not only does intel offer hyperthreaded solutions to compensate the shortcomings of lower core counts, but they are also in an identical playing field with amd. In this case however, only extremely low end android phones have dual cores nowadays, and developers compensate for that by optimizing their software accordingly. In the end the only score that counts in any way in that benchmark is the multithreaded score, and the note does remarkably well for being a relatively dated device (compared to the 6s which just dropped).

[ZetZet]

So almost twice is "not that much?"

The iPhone has a 1700mAh battery and the Note 5 has a 3000mAh battery, that's a pretty big difference imo.

iPhone 6 plus and note 5.

 

 

6 doesn't last nearly as long as note 5 AND it has the advantage of a tiny low resolution display.

[Castdeath97]

iPhones score high because of their standby, which is software being great, actual device usage time is quite a bit lower.

Exactly, standby is well optimised but the battery itself isn't too large.

[syoumans54]

No. Not at all. Its a more powerful core. Its like running a i7 Extreme edition vs an energy effecient version

Going to have to agree to disagree on that one.... Because of how they were designed to be used. They were never designed to be used as a single threaded processor. While it's much different with a dual core processor because most times they run extremely well single threaded. That's why you see barely any difference when it comes to the multi threaded test.

[LAwLz]

most in quantity it is probably ARM who designs them the cortex ones most chinese phones have them so there is the quantity, most high end phones have cpus designed by Qualcomm based on arm, samsung recently stated including cpus in their phones that are own design those are the exyons also based on arm, apple designs their own 'A' series also based on arm, and asus buys intel's atom cpu's.

Samsung uses ARM designs as well. The CPUs in their Exynos chips are not custom made.

 

 

 

since the apple is dual core only. + all the properly optimised apps and OS for those exact dual cores. anyway think of it like intel vs amd

 

and thats what we should care about.not this stupid specs rush but software.

1) Well it's basically a dual core vs a quad core in this test. The LITTLE cores probably get shut down for thermal and power reasons.

 

2) They are not "properly optimized apps and OS for those exact dual cores". The iPhone + models don't even render things at native resolution. It's not like the iPhone has some special instruction set either. It's just Objective C code being compiled for ARMv8. At most you can say apps are "optimized" because developers can target specific phones and know how well they perform and can tune things like graphics settings accordingly. "Optimization" won't give higher performance in these kinds of tests.

 

3) It's not like AMD vs Intel. Not sure if it's your AMD vs Intel knowledge that's lacking or your ARM knowledge, but it's one of the two.

 

4) Specs are incredibly important. The iPhone has a great CPU and a fantastic GPU. It's not because of "software otpimziations"

 

 

 

Cnet are reporting only 1811 which is still impressive but is no where near what is shown in the article, skip to around 1 minute and 50 seconds

 

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MKBHD got 2534 in single core, so I am going to bet that the Cnet numbers are inaccurate.

[VagabondWraith]

Getting mine this Friday. I'm still rocking a Droid Bionic from 2010. Will be a worthy upgrade.

[Commander Llama]

does this mean I can swipe screens, send texts to my dog, and read e-books 50% faster?!

[soaringchicken]

Not like this is surprising, everyone should know by now that Apple is really good with optimization (mostly because they only have to cater to a select few phones), it's why they can get away with making cheaper chips. 

[RagnarokDel]

Core per core its almost 50% higher thats insane

Intel could probably make a single core that runs at 8 ghz. The galaxy note 5 has 8 cores, if the Iphone 6s doesnt beat it in single core performance, it's in big trouble.

[dizmo]

Interesting, but I'd hope they'd be the fastest; the phone just came out. It should beat everything before it, especially the phones that have already been out for months.

Compare this to the SD820. Then we'll see what's what.

 

 

No that's useless. Just a different design. Samsung is on big.Little you can see the 1 core performance and 4 core performance scale 1 to 3 pretty much which is great. The 4 small cores are power efficient though which is why Note 5 smashes iPhone 6 plus in battery, yes it has a bigger battery, but not that much bigger.

Don't forget that the Note 5 has an even larger screen, with more pixels, in a considerably smaller body.

...the last part was just thrown in to show they can be just as design forward as Apple.

 

two sets of processing nodes, low load and smaller lighter tasks uses the weaker cluster and keeps the larger 4c off. 4 small 4 big. 

 

I don't get why we're comparing the single core of a dual core and a single core of a 4 core (8 total, typically 4 measured) 

 

and the term "obliterates" is clearly arbitrary 

Because it's a BGR piece. And they suck on Apple's teat as if there's no more liquids left in the world, and that's the only source of anything good.

[ShadowCaptain]

Lets not forget the iPad Pro is meant to be 150% FASTER than the A9 in the 6S

 

that means it will literally be INSANE

[Guest Kloaked]

"obliterates"

 

Was gonna say the same thing.

[Dabombinable]

Intel could probably make a single core that runs at 8 ghz. The galaxy note 5 has 8 cores, if the Iphone 6s doesnt beat it in single core performance, it's in big trouble.

They tried to. 220W TDP CPU didn't appeal to them.

[suicidalfranco]

so now it can run a Win7 on a VM like the cheaper zenfone does right?

[PudgyAstronaut]

"obliterates"

 

For single core yes. But it's still clickbait. The multicore are essentially identical. It's still impressive what Apple can do with 2 cores, but I don't think performance on benchmarks is a reason to buy a phone since like 2012 when it actually meant something about the experience.