Smoking Barrels - LTT's Unnofficial Gun Club!

[Drak3]

@Jito463 Just stack a few 1" picatinny risers and put a Magpul AFG at the bottom.

 

/s

[Aimi]

1 hour ago, Jito463 said:

Because unlike a vertical grip, you can't go full-semi-automatic rapid fire with an angled one. 

Now you're thinking like an ATF agent!

[kaiju_wars]

15 hours ago, Drak3 said:

That's actually desirable. One big reason the Mossberg 590/A1 is more reliable in military roles is because of how much play the slide has while still being functional.

I actually didn't know that.  I know the US military uses both the 870 and 500.  I always figured it came down to preference on the action, since they have slight differences.

48 minutes ago, Aimi said:

Now you're thinking like an ATF agent!

 

2 hours ago, Jito463 said:

Because unlike a vertical grip, you can't go full-semi-automatic rapid fire with an angled one. 

You two be like:

[Drak3]

7 minutes ago, kaiju_wars said:

I know the US military uses both the 870 and 500.

That's wrong.

 

The US military does not use the 870. And they specifically use the Mossberg 590A1 (the other shotgun currently in service is a variant of the Benelli M4).

 

Some high ranking soldiers might smuggle their 870's, but that's it.

[kaiju_wars]

7 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

That's wrong.

 

The US military does not use the 870. And they specifically use the Mossberg 590A1 (the other shotgun currently in service is a variant of the Benelli M4).

 

Some high ranking soldiers might smuggle their 870's, but that's it.

The M870 has been used by the military for a long time (mainly special forces) but still.

[Drak3]

Just now, kaiju_wars said:

The M870 has been used by the military for a long time

And it was replaced outright by the M1014.

[The King of the Undead]

21 hours ago, Jito463 said:

True, I wouldn't be caught dead holding something like this:

Probably not caught dead

[Jito463]

28 minutes ago, will4623 said:

Probably not caught dead

Fair enough, the bad guys would probably be laughing too hard to shoot at me. 

[The King of the Undead]

10 hours ago, Jito463 said:

Fair enough, the bad guys would probably be laughing too hard to shoot at me. 

although your friends will be to.

[kaiju_wars]

Fired the Wingmaster tonight.  It was soo much fun, loved it.  Handled and shot like a dream.  I was a little weary of the butt pad cause it’s a little older and it’s already started getting hard, but it help up really well.  Still absorbs recoil good enough.

 

This shotgun will make the perfect home defense gun for me.  Already ordered a case of low recoil buckshot for it

[Drak3]

The more and more I look into highly custom AR10 and Glock products, the more I release that Zev Technologies is just the Apple of the gun world.

[Jito463]

3 hours ago, Drak3 said:

The more and more I look into highly custom AR10 and Glock products, the more I release that Zev Technologies is just the Apple of the gun world.

I'm not familiar with them, how do you mean?

[Drak3]

Just now, Jito463 said:

I'm not familiar with them, how do you mean?

Take concepts from products already on market, implement them, and act like they did it first and are an innovative company. They also overcharge for their products.

 

Such as the OC9 - The grip angle already existed on Grey Ghost Precision's pistol (and the OC9 was announced after Faxon's FX19), metal frame Glocks are not new, nor is the frame design that has a metal slide rail housing and swappable grip (albeit that was for 1911s). $1700 for the entry OC9, the FX19 comes in at $1300 and $1500 and the GGP comes in at $1500 (and you can just buy the frame for $170).

 

Or their new AR10. The lower is dimensionally identical to an AR15 reciever behind the magazine well, uses AR15 buffer tubes and triggers, and the bolt carrier is the same diameter as an AR15's. In other words, Zev's innovative new AR10's recievers are standard DPMS pattern parts.

 

 

 

And their fanboys are just as stupid.

[Radium_Angel]

Anyone have any experience with these guys?

 

https://www.cbrps.com/Mosin-Nagant.html

I like the cossack look and have a spare MN around to use for such a project.

[Slumberjack]

22 hours ago, Drak3 said:

The more and more I look into highly custom AR10 and Glock products, the more I release that Zev Technologies is just the Apple of the gun world.

I think it varies from part to part. Their slides are ridiculous, but I have a match barrel of theirs in my P80 and it's wonderful and was pretty reasonable cost wise.

 

Also I admittedly like many apple products, but I'm fairly sure I knew what you meant

[Drak3]

1 minute ago, Slumberjack said:

pretty reasonable cost wise.

Zev starts at $200 for bitch basic stainless steel dimpled barrels.

 

Most other manufacturs start at $150 or so. Faxon charges $200 for some basic dimpled barrels, but at least they're finished with either a plating, nitride, or high end coating.

[Jito463]

Looks like it'll be a couple weeks before I get the EP9.  I was at the gun store on Saturday and stumbled across a lightly used S&W .22 Victory for $269.  For the price I just couldn't pass it up, especially since Cabela's has them new for $389.

[Drak3]

Just now, Jito463 said:

especially since Cabela's has them new for $389.

I call bullshit. Cabela's overcharges on anything and everything they can.

 

$28 for a $17 Carlson Benelli Mobil choke comes to mind.

 

As does ~$600 for a base model Mossberg 590.

[Jito463]

4 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Cabela's overcharges on anything and everything they can.

Maybe, but given that previously the cheapest .22 semi-auto I'd seen was at least $500 (from various outlets, including locally), it still seemed like too good a deal to pass up.

[Drak3]

Just now, Jito463 said:

Maybe, but given that previously the cheapest .22 semi-auto I'd seen was at least $500 (from various outlets, including locally), it still seemed like too good a deal to pass up.

Sportsman's Warehouse has many sub $500.

[Slumberjack]

23 hours ago, Drak3 said:

Zev starts at $200 for bitch basic stainless steel dimpled barrels.

 

Most other manufacturs start at $150 or so. Faxon charges $200 for some basic dimpled barrels, but at least they're finished with either a plating, nitride, or high end coating.

I'm not saying it was cheap, but I paid $237 for a black dimpled match G17 barrel, which is better than a lot of the high end brands that want $250+ for anything that has both "match" and "Glock" in the description.

 

EDIT: I should also specify that gen 3 specific barrels are usually pricier, because P80. It's kinda bullshit but that's the market

[Drak3]

2 minutes ago, Slumberjack said:

which is better than a lot of the high end brands that want $250+ for anything that has both "match" and "Glock" in the description.

Including Zev.

 

Thier entry level, basic barrels start at $225. G17, 19, or 34. Hell, they don't specify the actual coating of their burnt bronze barrels, and I'm not stupid enough to just assume that it's coated with bronze.

 

To put this in contrast, Faxon Firearms, a company well known for producing unparalleled (especially when it comes to stress relieving) pencil thin barrels for AR15s as well as other high end parts, has their most expensive barrels at $229. Those are G34 barrels that are threaded, Nitrided, and PVD coated. G17 barrels drop down to $219 at their most expensive.

 

Hell, looking at Cheaperthandirt, most non Zev barrels running ~300 have more stylized fluting accent/lightening cuts, instead of basic dimples.

[bondoao1]

I finally found a thread where I know what most people are talking about LOL

[Drak3]

5 minutes ago, bondoao1 said:

I finally found a thread where I know what most people are talking about LOL

Welcome to the thread.

 

I'm the residential AR, 1911, and tacticool shotty guy.

[bondoao1]

Thanks, I'm an AR/Sig Sauer/just about anything that goes bang fan boy with a side of reloading.