illegal to copy what you've bought.... again..... in the uk

[Trik'Stari]

Like anyone actually give a flying fuck about any antipiracy?

Exactly what I said earlier. You cannot fight the internet, you will always lose.

[NateGSR117]

I just want to know how are they ever going to find out if someone actually does. My money is they aren't unless someone tells them and even then cops have better things to do.

[sof006]

They wont be able to act on this in any shape or form. Are they going to make police inspect everyone's purchased content physical and digital throughout the UK? Nah... course they won't.

[Doobeedoo]

Screw UK and shit like this. They want to ban encryption and giving 10y jail sentence for stealing some digital cheap media while other way more worse crimes are not punished nearly enough. Joke.

[Murdoch]

In the case of conservatives it's fascism, not like it makes a difference because they both end up in the exact same place. A totalitarian regime that does whatever the hell it wants, the difference is their "justification". Both eventually result in a loss of civil liberties.

Well, that we can agree on. It's depressing how the UK is tip toeing down that road. The only party that stood up for civil liberties in Westminster committed political suicide by getting into bed with the tories. There's a handful of politicians that still do, but the vast majority don't give two shits. And people still vote in these self serving assholes. The two party system has a huge role to play in this, people just vote for the least bad option. With little clue about policy other than what the mainstream media feed them, and whatever fear tactics are being used.

The threat of terrorism has been used time and time again to further policy that erodes civil liberties, yet people seem to be clueless that terrorism isn't the real threat to our freedoms.

Anyways, this is getting far too political for what is a topic about physical media nobody uses anymore.

Edit: also is it any wonder I voted for Scotland to leave the UK. I like this country a lot, but God damn, I hate the road we are going down.

[Embattled]

What next? "You no longer own your house, you are just renting a license for it." and same for cars, computers, etc..?

 

Who knows, maybe they'll make it illegal to share electricity too!

 

Governments are so fucking stupid 99.9999% of the time.. (If the US Govt' tried pulling this type of shit, they'd just end up burning.)

Exactly what I was thinking would be the eventual result of all this "licensing" bullshit. They make it so in practice it's like you own it, but they make it a license so they can fuck you over if you even think about doing something that they wouldn't approve up. 

 

People are worried about the US government becoming totalitarian, pfffffffffft fuck that, it's the companies that are on the verge of dominating our lives right now. 

[Trik'Stari]

Exactly what I was thinking would be the eventual result of all this "licensing" bullshit. They make it so in practice it's like you own it, but they make it a license so they can fuck you over if you even think about doing something that they wouldn't approve up. 

 

People are worried about the US government becoming totalitarian, pfffffffffft fuck that, it's the companies that are on the verge of dominating our lives right now. 

Technically, we don't own our houses in the US as it is. Nor do we own the land they are built on. Don't believe me? Refuse to pay your taxes for a decade and see how quickly a swat team with IRS written on their backs shows up.

 

All of our government are completely out of control. We need uprisings, and soon. We need to burn 90% of the laws they've "passed", and start over again from the ground up. Leave most of the good amendments, get rid of all the garbage ones that simply change the wording of other amendments to allow them to be violated.

[Embattled]

Technically, we don't own our houses in the US as it is. Nor do we own the land they are built on. Don't believe me? Refuse to pay your taxes for a decade and see how quickly a swat team with IRS written on their backs shows up.

 

All of our government are completely out of control. We need uprisings, and soon. We need to burn 90% of the laws they've "passed", and start over again from the ground up. Leave most of the good amendments, get rid of all the garbage ones that simply change the wording of other amendments to allow them to be violated.

I just disagree on the uprisings part, usually that just leads to harsh backlash/violence from governments and just makes the noose tighter. What we need are voters that for once take their heads out of their asses and replace everyone in the government with non establishment and begin the reforms from there. 

[Trik'Stari]

I just disagree on the uprisings part, usually that just leads to harsh backlash/violence from governments and just makes the noose tighter. What we need are voters that for once take their heads out of their asses and replace everyone in the government with non establishment and begin the reforms from there. 

I would agree if that weren't an impossible feat. Notice that anyone who tells the truth gets black-balled in the media. An uprising wouldn't work in the UK, but in the US, if the government fucked up big enough, the people could oust them.

[othertomperson]

Because you gave up fundamental freedom in the name of false security called socialism. Now you get cronyism eating away at law and order through your politicians.

 

Congratulations on the most-incompressible-gibberish-uttered-on-this-forum prize! You should be very proud, it's quite a feat.

[MrDynamicMan]

this is so stupid, what kind of idiot makes these kind of laws?

You know we're talking about politician and government officials, right?

[-rascal-]

You know we're talking about politician and government officials, right?

 

Yes...politicians (and officials) who have a degree in Law or Business.

How many of them are in Engineering, and Ethics?

 

Relevant.

Spoiler

 

 

[Emanuel_M]

so i bought my laptop. i cant copy my HDD to my external HDD I bought?

so i can go to jail if i buy an hdd then have my steam games on there then cloned to another hard drive that i bought?

[Miguel Batista]

I think I've made it pretty clear how this ruling, and indeed the former legislation has nothing to do with a "socialist agenda", only somebody from the US could look at the Conservative Government and think "socialism". In fact, their most recent plan is to diminish the power of the Unions, both in terms of their ability to strike and partake in direct action, and their ability to fund the Labour Party (their only realistic opposition). I don't really understand the line of thinking that suggests a socialist legacy which has retained free healthcare & free education, but has embraced Neoliberalism in most other respects somehow now works to diminish civil liberties. The cause of our weakened civil liberties is not socialism, in fact it is the polar opposite.

 

But I largely agree with the general point of how apathetic, and easily manipulated the UK population is, neither of the main two parties over the last two decades have stood up for civil liberties, and most people turn a blind eye to revelations like "mass surveillance". I just completely disagree about where the real threat comes from.

 

Being here on the last elections it is truly shocking at how easily scared people can get (it is the same everywhere) and in their fear turn to something more perverse. But if you listen to the mainstream media it is understandable. The BBC is the biggest information spreader around here and its message is clear. They are like Fox News but a lot subtler. Plus, who is in charge in the BBC trust?

A couple of people from the radio and TV industry, a load of bankers or people connected to the finance industry and a guy from BAE systems... Socialists one and all I am sure.

 

What does a guy from BAE systems have to say about the programming of the BBC? What do bankers have to say about it either?

 

I am afraid that until such a time comes when people look for alternative sources of media instead of listening to the cardinals of the air, it will be very difficult to change because as you know, there is an illegal alien around the corner wanting to be explored and with his mind set on destroying the British salaries and way of life.

And this is the truth because the news say it is and if it is on the telly, it is real.

[Angelus2141]

While I appreciate the news, as I did see it myself earlier on the BBC, this is unfortunately a re-post

Link: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/390982-it-is-now-illegal-to-rip-cds-you-already-own-in-uk/

And as such, I shall copy my comment from that post here:

 

 Something also note worthy, The UK Government is trying to crack down on Online Piracy by increasing prison time to a maximum of 10 years.

Also I have to say on that one is:

 

Just try and stop it Government. TL;DR: You will never stop online piracy. You shut one site down, 10 more open up seconds later.

 

Actually that link states theyve decided the decision made originally was wrong but that they hadnt decided what action should be taken.

 

Quote from the article on the link reads 

 

"The government's choices are now to remove the private copying exception—making personal copying illegal again, or to supply additional evidence that copyright owners suffer no or minimal “harm” from personal copying, or else to begin imposing a new tax on users to compensate the industry for that “harm”.

 

The article I posted states they have now made a decision and decided its illegal rather than imposing a tax or showing it does no harm so not a repost.

[WelshDdraig]

Actually that link states theyve decided the decision made originally was wrong but that they hadnt decided what action should be taken.

 

Quote from the article on the link reads 

 

"The government's choices are now to remove the private copying exception—making personal copying illegal again, or to supply additional evidence that copyright owners suffer no or minimal “harm” from personal copying, or else to begin imposing a new tax on users to compensate the industry for that “harm”.

 

The article I posted states they have now made a decision and decided its illegal rather than imposing a tax or showing it does no harm so not a repost.

Fair enough, I retract my statement of it being a re-post, but the two are similar and could be linked since they cover the same topic.