R9 Fury Crossfire w/ FX8320

[Mkfish]

Yo dudes.. I'm looking to upgrade my R9 290 to an R9 Fury, and eventually add a second Fury a month later.
Question is will my FX-8320 bottleneck the 2 cards, or even just a single card? If so is upgrading the CPU to something like a FX9590 going to help?
Or am I going to be looking at a switching to an Intel platform, something I'd rather avoid if I can get away with it!!

[Tedster]

The 8320 will bottleneck a single fury.

Please go with at least a locked i5.

 

Heh, my Faceman quote now breaks itself when I copy it from my main post, even though it works there! Fixed

 

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The FX processors do have some strengths, just make sure that you are using a program that maximizes those strengths because as shown above, even in some multithreaded programs, the i5-4690k still comes out ahead.  In my opinion the gaming benefits of a locked i5, far outweigh the productivity(certain programs) benefits of the FX8.  You will have to personally weigh the pros and cons of what your priorities of your computer will be, and make your decision based on that, but if I'm building a gaming computer with a side of content creation, I will take the better gaming results over a 20 second(arbitrary number) shorter render time.

 

Sources:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8427/amd-fx-8370e-cpu-review-vishera-95w/2

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i3-4340-4330-4130_6.html#sect0

http://pclab.pl/art57691-12.html

 

I also want to throw in these power consumption graphs.

 

Top graph is power draw during Far Cry 3.  This is a good example because Far Cry 3 hits both the CPU and GPU adequately.   Some games will draw more power, some less, so this is a good middle of the road example.

 

The Below graph is during a x264 Encoding Benchmark with all processors at stock speeds.  This is hitting the CPU to the max 100%, and you can see when both an i5 and FX8 are hit to the max, there is a 100W+ difference.

 

Power consumption is another aspect of the FX CPU that needs to be talked about.  It draws so much more power than the Intel equivalent, that in just 2-3 years of use, the FX will end up costing you even more money.  Of course some places it is less expensive for energy than others, but you cannot deny that there is a 100W+ difference between an FX8 and an i5.  This power disparity only grows the further you overclock the FX.

 

I will use the average price of residential electricity in the U.S., which is $0.1294c per KWh according to EIA in September 2014.  I wish I could exclude Hawaii, because the electricity there kinda skews things unfavorably, so for this example, we will assume the average price is a flat $0.12 per KWh.  We will also assume that the overclocked FX power draw is 100W higher than the stock i5.  Lastly, lets assume that the average gamer plays for two hours per day, with an additional 2 hours of regular use(non-gaming), so lets just call it 3 hours a day to make it easy.

 

Power Consumption = 100W

Hours of Use Per Day = 3

Energy Consumed Per Day = .3 KWh

Price Per Killowatt Hour = $0.12

 

Energy Cost Per Day = $0.036

Energy Cost Per Month = $1.08

Energy Cost Per Year = $13.14

 

With our quick and dirty calculation, we see that the difference between the FX and i5 is going to add up to over $10 per year, and that is a conservative, no-overclock estimate.  With most of us wanting to keep our components as long as possible before having to upgrade, owning components for 2-3 years, and sometimes even longer, is not out of the question and that energy cost per year really starts to add up.

 

 

If you would like to calculate this for yourself, you will need to find out what the cost of energy is where you are located, and these two formulas:

Energy consumption calculation

The energy E in kilowatt-hours (kWh) per day is equal to the power P in watts (W) times number of usage hours per day t divided by 1000 watts per kilowatt:

E_(kWh/day) = P_(W) × t_(h/day) / 1000_(W/kW)

Energy cost calculation

The energy cost per day in dollars is equal to the energy consumption E in kWh per day times the energy cost of 1 kWh in cents/kWh divided by 100 cents per dollar:

Cost_($/day) = E_(kWh/day) × Cost_(cent/kWh) / 100_(cent/$)

 

Temperatures:

I hear the argument that AMD runs cooler than Intel, and this is a really silly misconception.  I can understand why someone would think that it does, but the temperatures from AMD processors are inaccurate.  They don't measure the cores, they measure the socket, cores tend to be hotter than the socket by a fair amount, and its an algorithm, not a direct measurement like with Intel. It is against the laws of physics for an FX processor to be less hot than an Intel one.  The FX draws much more power.  At stock, the FX8 draws 125W compared to 84/88W of an i5. The FX processor heats up the room much more as well.  I know in my friends' house who owns the FX, his room is sweltering after just an hour of gaming.

 

"Concerning your question regarding the temperatures with your processor. The maximum temperature threshold is 62 Celsius which set for the internal die (core) temperature of the chip. The core temperatures have an equational offset to determine temperature which equalizes at about 45 Celsius thus giving you more accurate readings at peak temperatures. The hindrance in this is the sub ambient idle temperature readings you speak of.

 

 The silicon and adhesives used in manufacturing these processors has a peak temperature rating of 97+ Celsius before any form of degradation will take place. The processor also has a thermal shut off safe guard in place that shuts the processor down at 90 Celsius.

The Cpu temperature is read form a sensor embedded within the socket of your motherboard causing about a 7-10 Celsius variance form the actual Cpu temperature, which may be what you are reading about on the net.
 I hope I was able to answer your questions, If you have any more inquiries don't hesitate to contact us.

 You can use an application called AMD overdrive, that will allow you to monitor your temperatures accurately.

 As long as your core temperature has not exceeded the high side of the 60 degree mark for extended periods of time you should be ok. 62 degrees holds a generous safety net to begin with.

 Thank You

 Alex Cromwell
 Senior Technology Director
 Advanced Micro Devices
 Fort Collins, Colorado
 2950 East Harmony Road
 Suite 300
 Fort Collins, CO"

 

-Source

 

.  That link is slightly dated, being last updated in 2012, but the basic educational information in it remains the same.

 

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Want to try and find a cheaper option for AMD?  Be my guest.  Here is the AM3+ Motherboard Phasing Guide.  You need at least 6+2, but recommended 8+2.

 

If you don't like numbers and want pure user experience without benchmarks and stats, check out Suika's 30 Day Journal of his experience going from an FX8350 + GTX 780 to an i7-4790k + GTX780. Like many others on this forum, he noticed that he was being held back in many games with his FX8, and his expensive GPU wasn't being fully utilized.  Here is a pure experience based review from a forum member on his experience going from FX to Intel. 

 

Suika is one of many users here on LTT who were previously using FX processors with high end GPUs thinking it was a good match, only to realize in the end that it was not a good balance.

 

Here is another member, UnbendingNose who was told on this very forum to buy an FX8 because it won't hold back an R9 290, and an ASRock Extreme 3 wont throttle his CPU.  Both of which are false.  Here are his two posts, the one where he is asking for advice on what to buy, and the 2nd where he is unhappy with his FX8320s performance because of bottlenecking and throttling.  He finally ended up buying an i5, which is what he should have done in the first place, and miraculously, to the surprise of no one, his performance in every single game improved, most notably minimum fps.

 

 

I am aware that an i7 is much more expensive than an FX8, but the performance in games between an i5 and i7 is nearly identical, especially when at the same clock speed.

 

With the AM3+ platform, there is nothing to upgrade to.  Going from an FX6 to FX8 to FX9 doesn't yield much performance gains because they all use the same architecture, which has horrible single core performance.  If you tried to go from FX8 to FX9, you're going to have to spend even more on super high end 990FX motherboard, and at least a $60 CPU Cooler.  Just throwing money at a bottomless pit of poor gaming performance.  Basically, you're stuck with what you have if you decide to go FX.

 

With Intel, upgrading is easy.  You can go from an i5 to an i7 or Xeon, even if you're on one of the less expensive, and older motherboards.  All that is necessary is a BIOS update, which is easy to do as long as you already have a Haswell processor, which you would have if you went this route.  Even the soon to be released Broadwell processors should be compatible with H81 motherboards.  They are going to be compatible with Devil's Canyon motherboards, which are also LGA1150, so they will fit in the same socket as these motherboards, so in theory all that is necessary is a BIOS update.  Going this route, you won't be able to overclock using the multiplier, but you can always squeeze an extra 1-300Mhz by BCLK overclocking.  Good thing Intel processors at stock already blow the doors off the highest overclocked FX chip out there. At least the option for truly increased performance is there with Intel, unlike with AMD.

 

Referring to the FX as the budget option, or good for its price needs to stop.  $225 equals $225 but the performance of one does not equal the other in games.

 

I think this needs to be added to those benchmarks, just to show people that the 9590 is NOT better than an i7 even with all 8 threads.

[RuLeZ]

a FX 9590 would be better for a CF for sure

[thekeemo]

a FX 9590 would be better for a CF for sure

but keep in mind its just an overclocked 8320

[rtpb5642]

a FX 9590 would be better for a CF for sure

You are joking right?

 

9590 is just a factory overclocked 8320 which will bottleneck even one R9 Fury 

[manikyath]

i'm probably going to make some AMD fanboys shout and scream at me, but i doubt even a single fury is a good idea here.

 

i've seen the FX processors compared to intel counterparts several times, and they rarely come even close in gaming comparisons.

 

if amd's new cpu architecture will be any good (which i actually hope it will) i'd suggest upgrading that, instead of a second fury.

[Fatelinha]

I say wait for zen...

[xAcid9]

Yo dudes.. I'm looking to upgrade my R9 290 to an R9 Fury, and eventually add a second Fury a month later.

Question is will my FX-8320 bottleneck the 2 cards, or even just a single card? If so is upgrading the CPU to something like a FX9590 going to help?

Or am I going to be looking at a switching to an Intel platform, something I'd rather avoid if I can get away with it!!

I suggest switch to Intel when Skylake is out for the masses. 

[RuLeZ]

You are joking right?

 

9590 is just a factory overclocked 8320 which will bottleneck even one R9 Fury 

Depends on the game, especially with DX 12 being able to use 8 thread

[rtpb5642]

Depends on the game, especially with DX 12 being able to use 8 thread

No it does not depend on the game, a 9590 will bottleneck even a single fury and during the process make your room a giant toaster oven

[AnnoyedShelf]

Yo dudes.. I'm looking to upgrade my R9 290 to an R9 Fury, and eventually add a second Fury a month later.

Question is will my FX-8320 bottleneck the 2 cards, or even just a single card? If so is upgrading the CPU to something like a FX9590 going to help?

Or am I going to be looking at a switching to an Intel platform, something I'd rather avoid if I can get away with it!!

Massive bottleneck.  You need at least an i5.

[RuLeZ]

No it does not depend on the game, a 9590 will bottleneck even a single fury and during the process make your room a giant toaster oven

Ok, every single game ever created will be botteneck by the CPU instead of the GPU, sure.

[EpicAdom]

a FX 9590 would be better for a CF for sure

Better =/= Good

It would bottleneck less than an FX-83xx CPU but it would still bottleneck.

[79wjd]

Depends on the game, especially with DX 12 being able to use 8 thread

Ok, every single game ever created will be botteneck by the CPU instead of the GPU, sure.

Just like all current games and games in the next year or two are going to be DX12, sure. 

 

Plus, just because DX12 will improve multi-threadeded support doesn't mean games will still perform better on something like an FX9590 over something with much faster cores like an i5. 

[PineappleHolidays]

Please just get an i5 and a single fury.

Otherwise, yes the 8320 will slow them down.

[rtpb5642]

Ok, every single game ever created will be botteneck by the CPU instead of the GPU, sure.

Just stop. Please

[minibois]

Ok, every single game ever created will be botteneck by the CPU instead of the GPU, sure.

Sure, not every game.. Games played at 8K and Ultra visuals wont..

But really most modern games played at normal settings will.

[EpicAdom]

Ok, every single game ever created will be botteneck by the CPU instead of the GPU, sure.

Don't parse his words. You know what he meant. The majority of games will get CPU bottlenecked if the OP gets any FX processor in combination with an R9 Fury/Fury X

[Oshino Shinobu]

Ok, every single game ever created will be botteneck by the CPU instead of the GPU, sure.

With Crossfire R9 Fury, yes it probably will. Also, with DX12, it still relies on the game developer to provide proper support. And not a huge amount of games will be converted to full DX12 support, so the extra features and support won't solve issues on any current games. 

[rtpb5642]

Don't parse his words. You know what he meant. The majority of games will get CPU bottlenecked if the OP gets any FX processor in combination with an R9 Fury/Fury X

Ya

[manikyath]

 

PLEASE keep things civil people...

[RuLeZ]

Don't parse his words. You know what he meant. The majority of games will get CPU bottlenecked if the OP gets any FX processor in combination with an R9 Fury/Fury X

I said that depends on the game, he said that didnt.. just that I said.. of course many games will be limited by the CPU, but maybe the OP doesnt want to change the entire system on the upgrade.. FX 9590 from the beginning is NOT a nice option rightnow, but better than the FX 8320, thats all I meant.

Changing MB and buying a new i5 can be a lot more expensive than changing the CPU.

[Oshino Shinobu]

I said that depends on the game, he said that didnt.. just that I said.. of course many games will be limited by the CPU, but maybe the OP doesnt want to change the entire system on the upgrade.. FX 9590 from the beginning is NOT a nice option rightnow, but better than the FX 8320, thats all I meant.

Changing MB and buying a new i5 can be a lot more expensive than changing the CPU.

The cost of changing to an Intel i5 is going to be around the same or less than the cost of a R9 Fury. So if he does go with a CPU that will bottleneck a single R9 Fury, then he won't get the benefits of the additional card anyway. 

[ADZ_123_!"£]

I said that depends on the game, he said that didnt.. just that I said.. of course many games will be limited by the CPU, but maybe the OP doesnt want to change the entire system on the upgrade.. FX 9590 from the beginning is NOT a nice option rightnow, but better than the FX 8320, thats all I meant.

Changing MB and buying a new i5 can be a lot more expensive than changing the CPU.

This is the price of an I5 with a good mobo (locked):

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CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£141.26 @ More Computers)

Motherboard: MSI H97M-E35 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£58.76 @ Scan.co.uk)

Total: £200.02

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CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£178.00 @ Amazon UK)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97P-D3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£56.93 @ Amazon UK)

Total: £234.93

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This is the price of a single 9590 and please bear in mind the fact you need a very good after market cooler as well:

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CPU: AMD FX-9590 4.7GHz 8-Core Processor  (£204.17 @ Amazon UK)

Total: £204.17

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[EpicAdom]

I said that depends on the game, he said that didnt.. just that I said.. of course many games will be limited by the CPU, but maybe the OP doesnt want to change the entire system on the upgrade.. FX 9590 from the beginning is NOT a nice option rightnow, but better than the FX 8320, thats all I meant.

Changing MB and buying a new i5 can be a lot more expensive than changing the CPU.

However, it would be very silly to upgrade to a 9590 and upgrade the GPU because, in a lot of games, the OP's fps won't increase due to the CPU bottleneck that is still present. He wouldn't get any performance increase.