Can't think of any logical reason to go Nvidia now.

[XxDeadpool67xX]

 

 

You and @XxDeadpool67xX are both fanboying, there are benefits to either card.

 

 

Not fanboying I think OP just wants to know if nvidia is out of the game and as of now it seems like there not as they have nothing to go against the 970 now the 980 against 390x is like this ^^ now that being said AMD said it was suposed to be priced as much as there predecessors but as of now not seeming like that.  

[XxDeadpool67xX]

Ain't Vram mate. Honestly owning a 980 feels like trash right now. 

Well the 980 was screwed every sinced the 980 ti was released. Though in general the 980 was always the meh card. $250 more for 5fps

[maizenblue]

Since the Titan X and 980 ti came out, Nvidia fans can no longer use the temps and power consumption line, as both cards are power hogs that run hot.

 

The Fury X is watercooled out of the box, so it will likely destroy the Titan X and 980 ti when it comes to temps.

 

Nvidia's 980 and 970 still have low power consumption going for them, but performance wise they are being outclassed by both AMD and other Nvidia cards, and the 980 is becoming irrelevant. Who wants to pay over 500 for a card that gets wrecked by cards costing slightly more and cant even beat an AMD card that's 100 dollars cheaper.

[Osiris Fox]

To add my two cents, I chose Nvidia because my current case (inwin901) is incredibly small with pathetic intake. I need my components running cool and AMD just hasn't really offered that as of late. If AMD made a powerful, quiet, and power efficient card, I'd have gone for that. Choose the card that suits your needs.

[nunya bus]

The way the 390x is edging out the 980 and the Fury X is destroying the 980 Ti, why go Nvidia? AMD wouldn't give fake benchmarks so close to launch. It would be worse PR than the 970 vram. Even the air cooled Fury should esge it out going off these results and it's $100 cheaper. GPU memory is a big topic these days and it's became one of the most deciding factors in buying a card, when most used to not even worry about it. Why buy a 970, 980, or Titan now? One is too expensive and the others are at 3.5 and 4 gigs of vram. I'm not hating on Nvidia. In my lifetime I've owned a 7900, two 9800's, a 780 Ti, and a 970 vs an ATI 9250, and a 290x. I just go with what's a better buy for my needs at the time. It really seems like AMD has caught them off guard...not just with Fury, but the "rabrand" sleeper card.

 

Edit:

Just wanted to say...guys stop thinking I'm an AMD fanboy, I'm not. I've owned way more Intel and Nvidia products. Also my profile pic for a month now is making fun of AMD... I'm simply a fanboy of great performance and great value. It's seems like unless Nvidia does a rebrand themselves, AMD is a better buy for a while.

May be true. but the direct competitor to the Water called fury X would be 980ti Hybrid from EVGA. and it beats the Fury in all benchmarks! as it boosts above 1500mhz over the 1100mhz stock 980ti

[Bitt3rSteel]

I bought my cards because i like gsync. So i replaced my 980s with ti's. AMD isnt bad, fury looks interesting, but im commited to Nvidia for the foreseeable future. This screen cost a fortune

[bomerr]

HELL NO.

 

The 390X is about 70% power of an OC'd 980. 

The WATER-COOLED FURY X is neck-n-neck with a REFERENCE 980 TI.

 

The only real problem here is Nvidia under clocks their cards so much from the factory that it lets AMD's marketing team spin the data. Once you OC Nvidia's GPU it's the same old story: Nvidia > AMD. 

[Humbug]

Once you OC Nvidia's GPU it's the same old story: Nvidia > AMD.

Where did you find data regarding Fury's overclocking headroom. Source?

[bomerr]

Where did you find data regarding Fury's overclocking headroom. Source?

Having a brain.

 

The Fury's clock speed is very similar to the 290X so I doubt AMD created a revolutionary more efficient architecture. 

Furthermore the water-cooled Fury X has more stream processors - probably Fiji runs hot.

 

http://wccftech.com/amd-fiji-die-reconstructed-hbms-huge-gpu-uncovered/

it appears that Fiji is just an oversized Hawaii. 

 

[Nena Trinity]

Cuda. PhysX. GameWorks.

I agree kinda. But those things are not required!

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

Maxwell architecture is still way more power efficient  

[bomerr]

Maxwell architecture is still way more power efficient  

Or on the flip-side Maxwell has a lot of OC headroom so you can give up the efficiency and get more raw performance too. 

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

Or on the flip-side Maxwell has a lot of OC headroom so you can give up the efficiency and get more raw performance too. 

 

Ehhh I wouldn't include OC... Although it is true that maxwell cards OC very well but AMD gpus OC very differently 

[kiwibacon]

heard some rumors that amd fury x wont have hdmi 2.0 if true and if no displayport  adapter comes out with 4k 60 hz it would be time to jump ship and go team green. :-(

[Statecat]

Cuda. PhysX. GameWorks.

This. ^ I like Nvidia's drivers way too much to switch. I also have a G-sync monitor so I'm married to Nvidia. Hahaha.

[Hieb]

The way the 390x is edging out the 980 and the Fury X is destroying the 980 Ti, why go Nvidia?

 

Alright here's the data we have

 

- The 390X roughly matches the GTX 980 when playing at 4K

- The Fury X slightly outperforming the 980 Ti and Titan X at 4K

 

Why go Nvidia? If you're not playing at 4K. Nvidia's higher end cards destroy AMD's for 1080P and still have a healthy lead at 1440P. So anyone looking to play at 120/144Hz is better off doing so on Nvidia cards at the moment (especially since you won't run into CPU bottleneck as easily on Nvidia).

 

Furthermore, some people might prefer the quieter air-cooled cards that Nvidia has. We'll see if it's a different story with the air-cooled Fury, but at least with the R9 290/290X the only quiet model of the card was Sapphire's Tri-X and Vapor-X AFAIK. Other mainstream models like DC2, Twin Frozr and Windforce were louder than the DC2, TF, WF GeForce cards. So a quieter system that pumps out less heat into the room might be of priority to someone.

 

But yeah if you wanna game at 4K it's looking like AMD is the way to go right now.

[Prysin]

people mention features with Nvidia, however AMD has their own

Liquid VR (awesome for oculus rift players)

Eyefinity (which just blows Nvidias version outta the water)

HD3D (god knows that its for, but its there)

TressFX

Mantle (BF4 still uses it, and will keep using it for a long while)

Raptr (AMDs not too great version of GFexp)

Better scaling with higher resolutions

Driver updates are well, trivial. You press update, and they update. Nothing different from my old Nvidia system. So being 2015, id say drivers are a non issue atm.

Freesync (finally catching up to Gsync)

Bridgeless crossfire (not much a feature more then a eastethical thing)

True Audio

The ability to actually run a powersupply to its limits with just a single graphics card (that one was a joke)

The ability to heat up your room without having to install a heater

[Hieb]

people mention features with Nvidia, however AMD has their own

Liquid VR (awesome for oculus rift players)

Eyefinity (which just blows Nvidias version outta the water)

HD3D (god knows that its for, but its there)

TressFX

Mantle (BF4 still uses it, and will keep using it for a long while)

Raptr (AMDs not too great version of GFexp)

Better scaling with higher resolutions

Driver updates are well, trivial. You press update, and they update. Nothing different from my old Nvidia system. So being 2015, id say drivers are a non issue atm.

Freesync (finally catching up to Gsync)

Bridgeless crossfire (not much a feature more then a eastethical thing)

True Audio

The ability to actually run a powersupply to its limits with just a single graphics card (that one was a joke)

The ability to heat up your room without having to install a heater

 

FreeSync and TrueAudio are really nice. TressFX not a big deal IMO, I've yet to see it well implemented (very janky and despite their claims has very poor collision detection). Mantle is also pretty much irrelevant... it helps in BF4 but it only works with certain driver versions and in BF4 Mantle produces a memory leak for a large portion of the playerbase.

 

I also like zerocore tech to save power when display is off. I'm the type of person who likes to leave my computer on overnight rather than full shut down since I often upload YouTube videos overnight (slow as hell upload speeds unfortunately), so being able to have the GPU power down when the display is off would be nice to save power... my GTX 760 keeps running when the display is off =/

 

One feature I really wish AMD implemented into Catalyst was to assign the number of pre-rendered frames for games. Some games don't have an in-game option to change this so they have slight input lag, as they often have pre-rendered frames set to 3-4. In the Nvidia Control Panel you can force this to 1 to reduce input lag. Huge game changer for Grand Theft Auto 5, I really wish this was an option on AMD GPUs as well.

[Yakusoku]

First Desktop was with an Intel and Nvidia, t'was 13 Years Ago.

Second was with both AMD CPU and GPU. Remembered the GPU went kaboom. Never went AMD ever again.

 

Sure AMD improved over the years. But despite how others experience I never experienced anything negative with Nvidia.

 

From my first Ti200, FX 5500 then 330m to 980 and now 980Ti. None gave me troubles only until what I threw a workload or game that was too much for it to handle. But not one Died, just outdated and replaced.

 

 

Nvidia has been good to me, for the longest of time. I cant see myself going team Red despite me not even liking their brand color (；д；）ﾉ..

 

Thanks Nvidia ♪ (ﾉ´∀｀*)ﾉ

[rjfaber91]

Well, I know I'll stick with Nvidia simply for reasons of brand loyalty. I quite like AMD's CPUs, but the only Radeon I've ever had is the onboard graphics on my laptop, simply because no manufacturer makes a laptop with an AMD CPU and Nvidia graphics; if any of them had then I'd have gone for that any day. In a situation where I have an actual choice, as with a proper computer, I'll always buy Nvidia cards, even if they would be absolute shit.

[Cheddle]

The way the 390x is edging out the 980 and the Fury X is destroying the 980 Ti, why go Nvidia? AMD wouldn't give fake benchmarks so close to launch. It would be worse PR than the 970 vram. Even the air cooled Fury should esge it out going off these results and it's $100 cheaper. GPU memory is a big topic these days and it's became one of the most deciding factors in buying a card, when most used to not even worry about it. Why buy a 970, 980, or Titan now? One is too expensive and the others are at 3.5 and 4 gigs of vram. I'm not hating on Nvidia. In my lifetime I've owned a 7900, two 9800's, a 780 Ti, and a 970 vs an ATI 9250, and a 290x. I just go with what's a better buy for my needs at the time. It really seems like AMD has caught them off guard...not just with Fury, but the "rabrand" sleeper card.

 

Edit:

Just wanted to say...guys stop thinking I'm an AMD fanboy, I'm not. I've owned way more Intel and Nvidia products. Also my profile pic for a month now is making fun of AMD... I'm simply a fanboy of great performance and great value. It's seems like unless Nvidia does a rebrand themselves, AMD is a better buy for a while.

 

im SURE this has been said in the 5 pages of replies... but.

 

Drivers and developer interaction are the two major reasons to go to Nvidia now

 

AMD simply dont have their ducks in a row when it comes to this... Ive owned almost a dozen cards from both camps and overall Nvidia just do a better job. Nvidia drivers are more reliable, more regularly updated, more efficient at negotiating with the API and these are the things that matter after you have bought a card and run the "number generator" to show how much better it is than your mates.

 

Additionally Nvidia have a more broad hookin with more development studios to create "nvidia optimized" game features, Nvidia spend time perfecting these technologies so developers can spend more time developing a game and less time creating a 3d engine from scratch. Its like adding hundreds of hours of development to a game.

 

I think the Fury X is the best graphics card I have ever seen released it is fucking beautiful! I remember looking at Voodoo's in a magazine with the same retail price as a Titan X and untill the Fury X nothing has been as revolutionary 

[alphaproject]

Fury is still the only card to get... 390 is just a 290 with a tad bit of tweaks....it's like a super-clocked 290, how has that ever changed?

 

People these days.... AMD was RIP if the base-line Fury was being sold at $849 which was reported costs awhile back. Now that the Fury is $549 that's a completely different story. I don't even see the need for the water cooling unless you want to OC the heck out of it. I'd rather save $100 and get the air cooled version OR the Nano...that one was kept secret and completely under wraps. AMD's lifeline was the Fury and Nano (possibly) but they still rebranded the rest of the heap essentially.

[Prysin]

FreeSync and TrueAudio are really nice. TressFX not a big deal IMO, I've yet to see it well implemented (very janky and despite their claims has very poor collision detection). Mantle is also pretty much irrelevant... it helps in BF4 but it only works with certain driver versions and in BF4 Mantle produces a memory leak for a large portion of the playerbase.

 

I also like zerocore tech to save power when display is off. I'm the type of person who likes to leave my computer on overnight rather than full shut down since I often upload YouTube videos overnight (slow as hell upload speeds unfortunately), so being able to have the GPU power down when the display is off would be nice to save power... my GTX 760 keeps running when the display is off =/

 

One feature I really wish AMD implemented into Catalyst was to assign the number of pre-rendered frames for games. Some games don't have an in-game option to change this so they have slight input lag, as they often have pre-rendered frames set to 3-4. In the Nvidia Control Panel you can force this to 1 to reduce input lag. Huge game changer for Grand Theft Auto 5, I really wish this was an option on AMD GPUs as well.

perhaps this is the new "Frame Target Control" feature they added to the 390 and 390X ???? i havent found out what that feature is supposed to do, whether it is a more fancy Vsync or if it is something else.

[Prysin]

im SURE this has been said in the 5 pages of replies... but.

 

Drivers and developer interaction are the two major reasons to go to Nvidia now

 

AMD simply dont have their ducks in a row when it comes to this... Ive owned almost a dozen cards from both camps and overall Nvidia just do a better job. Nvidia drivers are more reliable, more regularly updated, more efficient at negotiating with the API and these are the things that matter after you have bought a card and run the "number generator" to show how much better it is than your mates.

 

Additionally Nvidia have a more broad hookin with more development studios to create "nvidia optimized" game features, Nvidia spend time perfecting these technologies so developers can spend more time developing a game and less time creating a 3d engine from scratch. Its like adding hundreds of hours of development to a game.

 

I think the Fury X is the best graphics card I have ever seen released it is fucking beautiful! I remember looking at Voodoo's in a magazine with the same retail price as a Titan X and untill the Fury X nothing has been as revolutionary

Which games do you play? and what AMD products did you own?

Ive been using Radeon 7950, then recently a 295x2, and ive been using Radeon products since 2012. So when did you actually last use a AMD product? Because anything after 2012, ive been able to play the games i want, at 60 or higher FPS (i do not own a monitor with more then 60Hz, so its useless for me to run anything HIGHER then 60FPS, it just doesnt help much).

Quite honestly, to this day, the only two games i struggle with AMD drivers is Age of Empires 2 and Firefly Studios Stronghold and Stronghold Crusader. And my issue there is that the water turns from blue to pink. That is a driver error that hasnt been fixed in the soon 3 years ive used Radeon products.

I cannot vouch for PRE 2012, but any Radeon driver released since October 2012 has given me NO NOTABLE PROBLEMS. Yes i did have some minor issues with CFX from time to time, but Nvidia to this day still struggles immensely with SLI and getting that to work well, so all in all - i wont count CFX issues as a real game changing issue when the competitor isnt even remotely better at getting it right. Even when SLI works, SLI has loads of issues in terms of scaling and sometimes even fram pacing (you know that thing Nvidia used to harp on AMD for being bad at, the thing they made a benchmarking tool to measure just to make fun of AMD).

[ThomasD]

That is the big one for gamers. 

 

And the other reason - You can't actually buy the Fury yet, and the 390x doesn't totally beat the 980 but it does seem to trade blows and is cheaper. 

It is beginning to look like that card - caught between the so much better 980Ti and the less expensive 390x - is going to be the one big loser in all this.

 

 

 

But if AMD is thinking that sales of $500+ cards (ie. Fury) is going to keep the company financially afloat...