Microsoft explains what you’ll lose by upgrading to Windows 10

[Derangel]

Windows has released plenty of bugged and glitched updates in the past that caused problems. There is absolutely NO reason for them to stop us from not auto updating.

 

Hopefully doing the ringed update stuff will prevent it from happening to a massive amount of users again. If there is a problem people in the fast ring should be able to catch it and prevent it from hitting everyone else.

[Trik'Stari]

Hopefully doing the ringed update stuff will prevent it from happening to a massive amount of users again. If there is a problem people in the fast ring should be able to catch it and prevent it from hitting everyone else.

I would rather just download the update myself, with windows update, I really don't see any way that this is a good thing for consumers.

[RH00D]

Windows has released plenty of bugged and glitched updates in the past that caused problems. There is absolutely NO reason for them to stop us from not auto updating.

 

Hey Trik'Stari, I've addressed this, its this part of my previous post.

 

Now, you will say that doing this kind of auto update puts millions of users at risk for receiving a faulty update that causes BSOD or other curruption. This won't happen, here is why. The Insider preview program is continuing! Yes, any update that will reach Windows 10 Home users will have to go through the following process below.

 

MS Internal testing -> Insider Fast Ring -> Insider Slow Ring -> Windows 10 Home users

 

The current/old model is MS Internal testing -> Windows users

 

In the new model there is two more layers of testing where the testing happens on hundreds of thousands (maybe millions) of actual users.

[Trik'Stari]

Hey Trik'Stari, I've addressed this, its this part of my previous post.

 

Now, you will say that doing this kind of auto update puts millions of users at risk for receiving a faulty update that causes BSOD or other curruption. This won't happen, here is why. The Insider preview program is continuing! Yes, any update that will reach Windows 10 Home users will have to go through the following process below.

 

MS Internal testing -> Insider Fast Ring -> Insider Slow Ring -> Windows 10 Home users

 

The current/old model is MS Internal testing -> Windows users

 

In the new model there is two more layers of testing where the testing happens on hundreds of thousands (maybe millions) of actual users.

I still don't trust them, and I still don't see ANY reason for them doing this. What's wrong with notifying me that an update is available (via windows update) and letting me decide when to download it?

 

This is absolutely NOT intended to benefit the consumer. I'm going to make that prediction right now. This will end up being some kind of back door for them to spy on people for whatever BS corporate malarky

[peanutsrevenge]

Okay, I'm going to clear some shit up since some of the people quoted below are severely lacking in reading comprhension and/or critical thinking skills.

 

 

And someone really needs to take an anti-arrogance pill, which might require them to get off their faux high horse.

[Commander Llama]

guess Japan and Canada are screwed? Or maybe they just get their own versions.

 

Naw bud Canada's just counted as one of the States eh

[KirbyTech]

Not that they ever took anything lesser than ultimate.

Well if you are going to pirate why not go full out I guess.

[ACatWithThumbs]

I still don't trust them, and I still don't see ANY reason for them doing this. What's wrong with notifying me that an update is available (via windows update) and letting me decide when to download it?

 

This is absolutely NOT intended to benefit the consumer. I'm going to make that prediction right now. This will end up being some kind of back door for them to spy on people for whatever BS corporate malarky

Because 90% of people using Windows aren't tech savvy and are honestly to stupid to update it's just the reality.

This is clearly a move to get the non tech people to update there PC's without them needing to be involved or messing something up.

 

[Trik'Stari]

Because 90% of people using Windows aren't tech savvy and are honestly to stupid to update it's just the reality.

This is clearly a move to get the non tech people to update there PC's without them needing to be involved or messing something up.

.

 

....and that concerns me how? I would still like the option to turn it off.

[Fuzzy_Crumpkin]

Because 90% of people using Windows aren't tech savvy and are honestly to stupid to update it's just the reality.

This is clearly a move to get the non tech people to update there PC's without them needing to be involved or messing something up.

still doesn't make sense making it mandatory whatever the reasoning.

[Derangel]

....and that concerns me how? I would still like the option to turn it off.

 

To be blunt: Power users are a vast minority. OSes are designed for the use of the majority of users. A few thousand people wanting the option (myself included) doesn't matter against the millions upon millions of people who can barely turn their PCs on and routinely fuck shit up because they don't understand anything.

[Trik'Stari]

To be blunt: Power users are a vast minority. OSes are designed for the use of the majority of users. A few thousand people wanting the option (myself included) doesn't matter against the millions upon millions of people who can barely turn their PCs on and routinely fuck shit up because they don't understand anything.

I would say it's far more than a few thousand. More like a few million, and then tens of millions of morons.

 

It's still stupid, and I will gladly wait to update (for as long as I can) to windows 10, until someone comes up with a method for turning it off.

[Derangel]

I would say it's far more than a few thousand. More like a few million, and then tens of millions of morons.

 

It's still stupid, and I will gladly wait to update (for as long as I can) to windows 10, until someone comes up with a method for turning it off.

 

I'm sure someone will find some way around it. People can be very dedicated when they want something enough.

[Trik'Stari]

I'm sure someone will find some way around it. People can be very dedicated when they want something enough.

Indeed they can. And I will laugh heartily when this comes back to bite microsoft on the ass.

[ACatWithThumbs]

....and that concerns me how? I would still like the option to turn it off.

It might not concern you but it's a huge concern for Microsoft look at the Windows 8 vs 8.1 numbers those show that almost half of the users don't even know how to update there OS.

There are pretty much making the Pro the version for tech heavy people and Home Premium for the average person.

 

still doesn't make sense making it mandatory whatever the reasoning.

As I said above it seems to be a move to separate Home Premium and Pro so that Microsoft can do the hand holding which most people need.

The reality is that the people here in the forum that know what they're doing are the minority just look at the "Non Techie Thread" most people can barely use there PC let alone control updates.

While they could make a hidden option to get controls they probably want tech heavy users to switch to Pro.

[Derangel]

Indeed they can. And I will laugh heartily when this comes back to bite microsoft on the ass.

 

I'm sure it will be some complicated or in depth hidden thing that only power users are going to do, so it shouldn't effect the big group MS is targeting with this.

[bcredeur97]

Windows media center is cool but honestly I never use it, the default media player is good enough, or I'll use VLC.

I have 8.1 pro with media center so I'm not worried about the updates thing (what will MS do if they accidentally release a bad update like they did a few months ago?!)

The only thing I'm sad about is my GPU's are one generation away from supporting DX12. Was hoping they would work because I have two and the dual GPU benefits are going to be nice but oh well.

all in all, doesn't seem like a bad upgrade to me. Nothing third party software can't solve anyway haha

[Tygron]

Guys. The lowest teir of Windows 10 won't be able to decline updates. Every other version will (if i'm reading that right). Calm down and read.

Still don't see anything about losing my Windows 7 key due to Windows 10 taking it. But I only read the post.

[Fuzzy_Crumpkin]

As I said above it seems to be a move to separate Home Premium and Pro so that Microsoft can do the hand holding which most people need.

The reality is that the people here in the forum that know what they're doing are the minority just look at the "Non Techie Thread" most people can barely use there PC let alone control updates.

While they could make a hidden option to get controls they probably want tech heavy users to switch to Pro.

and like I said, whatever the reasoning it shouldn't be mandatory. What your doing is lame justification of a bad business practice. It would be easy enough to hide the option in the system setting so that the non-tech savvy can't find it. Your defending more control being taken away from you which is fairly ironic since PC gamers are always getting after console gamers for the same bs... Your defending a corporation who is known to put out bad updates, so they are pretty much forcing people to upgrade their version. There is absolutely no reason it should be mandatory.

[DeathRtH]

You just compared video game testing to Microsoft OS patch testing. I can't.

 

I also stated any software, it doesn't matter what the software is there will always be bugs that get through I just used games as an example because it was the first thing that came to mind. On top of that Windows Update tends to restart your PC after an update, or minimize whatever you're doing to warn you that its going to restart unless you tell it not to. There's no logical reason to do this, automatic updates are enabled by default and that means the only people that might have issues not getting updates, are people who manually disable the automatic updating themselves, so if they have an issue they only have themselves to blame.

[NateGSR117]

Nothing that I use, make it July already!

[SSL]

See above. And do you also avoid Google Chrome because that auto updates without choice? inb4 Browser != OS

 

Actually, yes.

 

But I'm intrigued to hear you explain how a browser IS "==" to an OS.

[Albatross]

I can't believe Home users cannot stop updates. That is absolutely absurd! And no desktop gadgets? What a shame! I need those, man!

[SuntannedBeast]

No! They aren't happy with little floppys!

Also:

*Updates to Windows 10* NOOOO! MY POOOOORRRRNNNN! ALL OF MY HORSE FETISH WAS ON THERE!

[IdortMasterRace]

And do you also avoid Google Chrome because that auto updates without choice?

 

Yes. I don't use garbage, botnet browsers.