Experiences with non-techies

[matrix07012]

5 hours ago, Lurick said:

There was a post on this forum recently, I won't point them out, but basically they said OS X was faster than Windows at video rendering and that's why they needed a Mac.

Not really, but it has Final Cut Pro X which is an awesome video editing program and it also has better power management than Windows.

[BingoFishy]

1 hour ago, matrix07012 said:

Not really, but it has Final Cut Pro X which is an awesome video editing program and it also has better power management than Windows.

Actually, I'd go more along the lines of the fact that apple is really good and putting batteries in their products, I mean, here's the MBA:

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And here's the new macbook:

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The computer part (at the top) is about the size of a smartphone. Pretty insane.

Apple makes well designed products, but many (like the new macbook) are incredibly impractical, and most, if not all, are incredible overpriced.

[positivePXL]

5 minutes ago, BingoFishy said:

Actually, I'd go more along the lines of the fact that apple is really good and putting batteries in their products, I mean, here's the MBA:

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And here's the new macbook:

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The computer part (at the top) is about the size of a smartphone. Pretty insane.

Apple makes well designed products, but many (like the new macbook) are incredibly impractical, and most, if not all, are incredible overpriced.

And with all of those batteries, still just a few hours. Its amazing what having 4 batteries that are paper-thin will do compared to proper battery. And to be fair, they probably aren't too overpriced, it just costs that much to make batteries that thin.

[matrix07012]

1 minute ago, positivePXL said:

And with all of those batteries, still just a few hours. Its amazing what having 4 batteries that are paper-thin will do compared to proper battery. And to be fair, they probably aren't too overpriced, it just costs that much to make batteries that thin.

The new macbook air is overpriced, because it has the computing power of a smartphone and still thermal throttles.

[BingoFishy]

32 minutes ago, positivePXL said:

And with all of those batteries, still just a few hours. Its amazing what having 4 batteries that are paper-thin will do compared to proper battery. And to be fair, they probably aren't too overpriced, it just costs that much to make batteries that thin.

Not really. Batteries aren't expensive. Also, the MBA has an incredible battery life (15+ hours I've heard) and the new macbook is pretty good (~6-7 hrs iirc).

[BingoFishy]

When this review was posted, Windows 10 had been out for...

 

4 months. (Not including insider program)

 

I seriously wonder how he got "Top 1000 contributor"

[Akolyte]

10 hours ago, I need a better name said:

We'll never surpass heaven society...

True, but we may get close. 

2 hours ago, matrix07012 said:

Not really, but it has Final Cut Pro X which is an awesome video editing program and it also has better power management than Windows.

It's also closer to Unix which makes it great for people who need to administrate linux servers, not only that but it's better for development simply because it supports Xcode which does suck as an IDE but contains the compiler to actually develop iOS and Mac applications.  And if you're a developer, especially for mobile apps then you need a Mac.  Even if you use Xamarin which is a windows IDE which uses the NDK to create Android applications and still needs SSH access to a Mac to use the built in Xcode Compiler. 

 

Besides, Mac is used more for productivity applications like Final Cut Pro X, which you stated.  I don't think it has better power management as an operating system but because the OS is directly designed for the hardware.  But the memory management might be slightly better than Windows depending on what your doing.  The registry makes up for it though. 

 

Although people put down the registry, it's actually a really amazing and fantastic part of the Windows Operating System. 

On 5/9/2016 at 3:05 AM, wkdpaul said:

So this just happened, we had network problems earlier, this office lady calls me saying her computer was acting up after the network came back, she did a reboot but now her PC isn't working.

 

I show up, the PC is off so I press the power button, the PC open and she goes"ahhh it was just closed?" ... lol I made a WTF face and I think she saw it, she apologized and said she must've clicked shutdown instead.

 

... writing this was longer than fix that problem!

Yup.   Networking is quite fun, it's certainly more fun than software engineering in my personal opinion.  My Goal is to be able to work in a data center and at one point hopefully become a CIO or CDO.  

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[Lurick]

7 minutes ago, Mike_The_B0ss said:

Yup.   Networking is quite fun, it's certainly more fun than software engineering in my personal opinion.  My Goal is to be able to work in a data center and at one point hopefully become a CIO or CDO.  

Networking is more fun when you're down a ways from the CIO position. At that high up you don't get to do really any down and dirty stuff or testing where the real fun begins.

[DirtyDane]

 

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On 5/12/2016 at 8:40 AM, Lurick said:

There was a post on this forum recently, I won't point them out, but basically they said OS X was faster than Windows at video rendering and that's why they needed a Mac.

 

18 hours ago, BingoFishy said:

Actually, I'd go more along the lines of the fact that apple is really good and putting batteries in their products, I mean, here's the MBA:

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And here's the new macbook:

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The computer part (at the top) is about the size of a smartphone. Pretty insane.

Apple makes well designed products, but many (like the new macbook) are incredibly impractical, and most, if not all, are incredible overpriced.

personally i wont be buying a mac anytime soon. but i wont argue that they arent bad devices, they build some well made stuff over there at apple land sometimes. but heres my thing, am i the only one who thinks that the strap for the apple whatch makes it look like a kids toy almost?

[WkdPaul]

19 minutes ago, DirtyDane said:

 

personally i wont be buying a mac anytime soon. but i wont argue that they arent bad devices, they build some well made stuff over there at apple land sometimes. but heres my thing, am i the only one who thinks that the strap for the apple whatch makes it look like a kids toy almost?

Not going to buy a Mac anytime soon either, though I've had a few back in the days of G3 & G4 and I understand WHY someone would buy a Mac. And frankly I don't understand the people complaining about Macs being crap and overpriced since almost ALL of them actually never ever touched one, let alone worked with one.

[BingoFishy]

17 minutes ago, wkdpaul said:

Not going to buy a Mac anytime soon either, though I've had a few back in the days of G3 & G4 and I understand WHY someone would buy a Mac. And frankly I don't understand the people complaining about Macs being crap and overpriced since almost ALL of them actually never ever touched one, let alone worked with one.

Well... I've worked with them, and and they're good machines. But they don't age well, from what I can tell, older windows machines work better than older macs. And the overpriced part, is, I well, usually true. A $1000 gaming laptop outperforms or equals the highest end MBP (~$3500) in many scenarios (960M > M370X AFAIK + the windows machine would have a new processor). The extra $1500 gets you a better screen, track pad, storage (lower capacity though), and battery life. But you get a weaker graphics chip (and older processor). 

 

I'm not saying that a mac is worse than the windows machine. In fact, I'd prefer it. I'm just saying that they're simply not a good deal, and the average consumer would be better off with a cheaper machine. 

[DirtyDane]

every time i go to troubleshoot something. i get my hopes up and pray to the almighty god above that they have windows 2000 and it ends up something like this 

 ive always wanted that to happen for real

[WkdPaul]

10 minutes ago, BingoFishy said:

I'm not saying that a mac is worse than the windows machine. In fact, I'd prefer it. I'm just saying that they're simply not a good deal, and the average consumer would be better off with a cheaper machine. 

totally agree, but again, saying it's overpriced compared to a gaming machine is bias. Macbooks and Mac pros are not used for gaming, if they are then the person has obviously no idea what they're doing.

 

Like I said, I'm not gonna buy a Mac, ever again, not because they aren't useful or because they are crap or overpriced but because I have no use for one.

 

As far as older Macs not working better than older PCs, I don't know, haven't touched a Mac in a decade, my last Mac was a 2 CPU G4 computer (1.8Ghz overclocked), and that thing was keeping up with core 2 duos, the old PPC Macs were quite capable but are now completely useless. Macs being on Intel CPU might explain why they struggle more when getting older.

[DirtyDane]

someone make me laugh. ive been video editing since 6am. and this is part 2 since i have to assemble it in 3 seperate videos then merge them into one because of the stupid way i decided to do it. the video will suck either way lol. but yeah i need a laugh and a link to the cheapest copy of windows 2000 professional with a product key you people can find

[BingoFishy]

2 hours ago, wkdpaul said:

totally agree, but again, saying it's overpriced compared to a gaming machine is bias. Macbooks and Mac pros are not used for gaming, if they are then the person has obviously no idea what they're doing.

 

Like I said, I'm not gonna buy a Mac, ever again, not because they aren't useful or because they are crap or overpriced but because I have no use for one.

 

As far as older Macs not working better than older PCs, I don't know, haven't touched a Mac in a decade, my last Mac was a 2 CPU G4 computer (1.8Ghz overclocked), and that thing was keeping up with core 2 duos, the old PPC Macs were quite capable but are now completely useless. Macs being on Intel CPU might explain why they struggle more when getting older.

Intel CPU's struggle when they get older? Didn't know that. But yeah, my school's macs from a few years back do struggle quite a bit,  when loading a page or opening chrome. They have C2Ds. And while Macs aren't made for gaming, gaming and a lot of productivity programs often have quite a bit in common as for performance and system requirements. 

[BingoFishy]

2 minutes ago, DirtyDane said:

someone make me laugh. ive been video editing since 6am. and this is part 2 since i have to assemble it in 3 seperate videos then merge them into one because of the stupid way i decided to do it. the video will suck either way lol. but yeah i need a laugh and a link to the cheapest copy of windows 2000 professional with a product key you people can find

I'd help, and but I'm on a phone atm and phones aren't particularly good for shopping. 

[WkdPaul]

1 hour ago, BingoFishy said:

Intel CPU's struggle when they get older? Didn't know that. But yeah, my school's macs from a few years back do struggle quite a bit,  when loading a page or opening chrome. They have C2Ds. And while Macs aren't made for gaming, gaming and a lot of productivity programs often have quite a bit in common as for performance and system requirements. 

ok ... not sure what you're saying here.

 

Apple used to have PPC CPU before they switched to Intel, those PPC CPUs were easily able to keep up with newer Intel and AMD CPUs and architectures (like I said, my PPC Mac G4 @ 1.8Ghz with SDRAM had no problems keeping up with Pentium Ds with DDR). Apple switching to Intel then had to directly compete with the PC market (it's Intel architectures on "both sides" now). So what I meant was, it makes sense that older Macs with the same Intel CPU than PCs don't age as well as the PPC Macs.

[MDPS]

2 hours ago, DirtyDane said:

someone make me laugh. ive been video editing since 6am. and this is part 2 since i have to assemble it in 3 seperate videos then merge them into one because of the stupid way i decided to do it. the video will suck either way lol. but yeah i need a laugh and a link to the cheapest copy of windows 2000 professional with a product key you people can find

Want to hear a joke?

 

Pre-Builts.

[positivePXL]

1 minute ago, MDPS said:

Want to hear a joke?

 

Pre-Builts.

HAH,

HAHAHAH

 

ROFL

[vanished]

3 minutes ago, MDPS said:

Want to hear a joke?

 

Pre-Builts.

Oh yeah?

 

[BurgerBum]

7 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Oh yeah?

 

ORIGIN and DigitalStorm really make nice computers.

they also have lifetime of the computer service, for like 100$. they'll update the parts in your rig for you, overclock for you, everything. shits rad.

 

makes giving someone like me a rig like most other people on LTT or RTW so goddamn easy.

[BurgerBum]

4 hours ago, DirtyDane said:

every time i go to troubleshoot something. i get my hopes up and pray to the almighty god above that they have windows 2000 and it ends up something like this 

 ive always wanted that to happen for real

I'm pretty sure theres just a .exe somewhere out there that does this with a certian hotkey....

now I wanna find it.

[DirtyDane]

1 hour ago, BurgerBum said:

I'm pretty sure theres just a .exe somewhere out there that does this with a certian hotkey....

now I wanna find it.

WE MUST FIND IT

 

[BingoFishy]

4 hours ago, wkdpaul said:

ok ... not sure what you're saying here.

 

Apple used to have PPC CPU before they switched to Intel, those PPC CPUs were easily able to keep up with newer Intel and AMD CPUs and architectures (like I said, my PPC Mac G4 @ 1.8Ghz with SDRAM had no problems keeping up with Pentium Ds with DDR). Apple switching to Intel then had to directly compete with the PC market (it's Intel architectures on "both sides" now). So what I meant was, it makes sense that older Macs with the same Intel CPU than PCs don't age as well as the PPC Macs.

Ahh okay. 

[vanished]

3 hours ago, BurgerBum said:

I'm pretty sure theres just a .exe somewhere out there that does this with a certian hotkey....

now I wanna find it.

I wish there was... I wish there was  But if you listen closely they use the same error sound over and over but pitch shifted, so even if you made all these popups and sounds play to the right "beat", it wouldn't sound anything like this unfortunately.

 

Also, @DirtyDane I'm pretty sure it was XP in the "classic" theme and not 2000 since it briefly flashes the welcome screen at least once.