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Unless you have so little that the computer starts swapping the second Windows starts :)

except the PC that is talked about here had 2GB of DDR3, even on my C2D 2GB of DDR2 is more than enough to not cause boot problems, I installed a SSD on that PC because I was tired of it taking more than a minute to boot and be usable, 4GB of RAM wouldn't have speed up boot time, at ALL.

 

So ... yeah, SSD for boot time, even cheap 300$ laptops have 4GB of RAM nowadays!

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2 situations: 

 

A friend of mine told me of a situation when he was working at a call center.

The client calls : My computer is slow !!!

My friend: Did you try closing all the windows.

Client: Wait a second.

Loud sounds of closing windows around the house.......

 

One of my funniest situation. It was last year.

 

3 am. A manager from the company thats my biggest client calls.

Manager: N. its a big problem the icon for the program dissapeared. How to get it back?

Me: Ok. First open my computer.

Manager: Wait a second.

Me: Waiting for 30 sek. Waiting for a minute. Waiting for 2 minutes. What happened?

Manager: Where is YOUR computer I cant find it.

Me: Send a car to take me in 10 minutes...............

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This isn't exactly on topic, but i went to an apple store and asked the guy how much a mac that could play new games would cost. He looks at me and says " ARE YOU CRAZY? BUILD YOURSELF A GAMING PC! ITS FASTER AND CHEAPER." Needless to say, i think i made a scene at how hard I was laughing.

 

2nd one: My friend called me on skype for a computer issue, He says his graphics broke. He turns on the camera to his phone, takes out the processor from his computer and starts waving it around saying "This piece of crap broke!" BTW: He's a computer major in college -_-

 

3rd one: Same guys as above. "Colton, What can i do to make my dell run faster?" Me: "Well, you can buy an ssd and put a better graphics card in it." Him: "Ok bro, I gochu"

*Goes to bestbuy to buy graphics card, sees really cool keyboard (Black widow chroma) and buys that instead* Me: "So you got the graphics?" Him: "No, i bought this really cool keyboard for $200 though!"

 

4th one: Same guy, AGAIN.... 

 

This is our text convo.

Him: Colton, I have this broken USB drive and i cant get data off of it.

Me: Didn't you just say it was broken?

Him: Yeah.

 

*Leaves and ignores chat*

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The pc is really old. The hard drive is either incredibly slow, or it's been clogged with a lot of shit, either way, it takes 2 minutes to boot windows, then it takes awhile to be functional. The ssd is really a luxury item, but more ram would definitially help.

Hey buh, ya think 2 mins is a bad boot time. My last PC (which I only got rid of 6 months ago) had a boot time or 4 mins and more. That was a slow thing but now my new PC boot time is a mere 30 seconds at the most. Yay :)

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Hey buh, ya think 2 mins is a bad boot time. My last PC (which I only got rid of 6 months ago) had a boot time or 4 mins and more. That was a slow thing but now my new PC boot time is a mere 30 seconds at the most. Yay :)

30 seconds so much?! :D

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Found this installed on my computer just now. Pretty much sums up dealing with my entire family.

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Poor you, my school is full of PCs ranging from i7-2600s-i7-4790ks, all with 6-12GBs of RAM. They are all Dell but hey, i7-4790ks lol,, Our CAD PCs I think may be custom with 5820k's w/ 32GBs of RAM but have yet to confirm it. Oh we also have a few dozen iMacs.

Just go into the 5820K's file explorer and it will show how much ram they have. That is of course if you were able to access them. So r ya?

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30 seconds so much?! :D

Ok, spill the beans. What is ur boot time?...

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Ok, spill the beans. What is ur boot time?...

My PC boots in 10/15 seconds, with a mechanical drive.

OT: walked into my office and saw a laminator snapped in half with a half-laminated piece sticking out. It had a note next to it that said "Lenny the Laminator got hungry". FML

Hahaha that legitimately made me LOL

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Hey buh, ya think 2 mins is a bad boot time. My last PC (which I only got rid of 6 months ago) had a boot time or 4 mins and more. That was a slow thing but now my new PC boot time is a mere 30 seconds at the most. Yay :)

yeah, 2 minutes is unbearably bad, but what's worse is the fact he said it takes a while to be usable after booting & logging on.  That used to be a common thing with Windows installs that had been around too long; logging on and just generally everything would get slower and slower over time until you had to reinstall, but that problem went the way of the VHS when we got SSDs

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Just go into the 5820K's file explorer and it will show how much ram they have. That is of course if you were able to access them. So r ya?

I can just go into system information though I don't have access to those rooms.

 

 

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Linux....

I was actually confused by that quote until I replaced Linux with "Linus."

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Ok, spill the beans. What is ur boot time?...

Much faster 5-10 I think (I start counting when Windows actually boots not the mobo stuff)
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FML ...

 

A friend of mine tried to "copy me" by making a HTPC off an old C2D (got a bunch of old Dell Optiplex 755 SFF and gave him one), The problem with those things is they don't have HDMI out, so I got a low-profile video card (bought a used HD5450) and it works perfectly well.

 

He's a bit paranoid and doesn't trust any forums buy/sell sections or classified website (got my 5450 from a hardware forum), so he didn't listen to me and got a GT 610 with a low-profile bracket in a BestBuy and ended up paying almost 60$ ...

 

The card doesn't work in the Optiplex somehow (I didn't offer to troubleshoot it ... lol), so since it doesn't work but he knows that what I did worked he asked me this;

 

friend : JP

me : ME

 

JP - hey, you have spare GPUs with HDMI?

ME - nah, if I had I wouldn't have bought the HD5450 now would I??

JP - oh .. yeah! What about the GPU in your desktop?

ME - Yeah it has HDMI, but no way we're swaping that out!

JP - but you told me it only has 1GB and that you paid 50$ for it!

ME - *sigh* ... no, not swaping ... plus it's not a low profile card ...

JP - ah yeah, forgot about that!

ME - *facedesk*

 

So he thinks his GT 610 is better than my HD7770 because the GT 610 has 2GB of VRAM ... That happened today and I'm still speechless!!!

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One day I was having issues with my laptop displaying stuff on a second screen that wasn't there. The IT team fixed it and said They "updated the display drivers" I checked and CCC was not updated or even reinstalled. I assume they clicked the "Detect" button in the Screen Resolution settings.

 

Classic school IT team. Very few of the clan know what the problems are.

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I helped fix a Chinese exchange student's computer which was running ridiculously slow. The culprit? 3 active antiviruses. The reason? She didn't even know what antivirus was.

I've built 3 PC's, but none for myself... In fact, I'm using an iMac that my dad bought for me as my desktop. Awkward...

Please don't say "SSD drive." By doing so, you are literally saying "Solid State Drive Drive" and causing my brain cells to commit suicide. The same applies to HDD (Hard Disk Drive) and PCIe (Peripheral Component Interconnect Express).

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More ram doesn't speed up the boot proces...

i know, its there is shit loading in the background and it takes awhile until it's usable where it can actually do anything; for all the software and drivers to initialize, so I think more RAM would help with it in that sense, but not boot times. 

I thought I had some money... Oh wait... I spent it all ;(

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i know, its there is shit loading in the background and it takes awhile until it's usable where it can actually do anything; for all the software and drivers to initialize, so I think more RAM would help with it in that sense, but not boot times. 

The massively better random IO speeds of an SSD are what is going to make a huge difference in that area.

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The massively better random IO speeds of an SSD are what is going to make a huge difference in that area.

Yeah, a huge difference. Coupled with 2-4 more gb ram as opposed to 1.86gb usable (which is about less than 512mb after windows and other programs and drivers eat that). So, I think both would be a huge upgrade over that PC.

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I had used an old RAM stick as a key chain this morning and one of my classmates said RAM make a computer faster, which could be true until a point.

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I can set up an apache and do stuff like that around linux, but i kind of am a noob when it comes to anything but ubuntu.

i wish i had the time to sit down and formally teach myself linux beyond the basics. its a great system and really i wouldnt mind moving entirely over to it if i was more skilled in it and steam wasnt an issue.

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I had used an old RAM stick as a key chain this morning and one of my classmates said RAM make a computer faster, which could be true until a point.

RAM is required in a computer, period.

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i wish i had the time to sit down and formally teach myself linux beyond the basics. its a great system and really i wouldnt mind moving entirely over to it if i was more skilled in it and steam wasnt an issue.

Gaming is the only thing stopping me from going over to Linux full-time on my personal machines. When the answer to "how do I play this game on Linux?" is "dual-boot Windows", I'm not swapping over. I need to be able to do EVERYTHING on Linux before I swap.

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RAM is required in a computer, period.

Unless you enter a magical world of OSs with practically no background services or anything running in the background and just sit and watch a black screen all day. Then you could probably run off the CPU cache just fine.

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