Experiences with non-techies

[Shadow Gamer]

I have a friend who thinks there computer can handle live streaming.. Wait until you see the specs..

Pentium G860 Umm..

Some HP motherboard

MSI Radeon HD 7770 1GB.... Ummm uhh..

6GB of RAM at @665MHz. Oh great. Good luck not capping that.I use about 4.5GB with stuff in the background and web browsing. Capped it once today actually.

Lets see how this goes if he goes through with the streaming. He thinks 6GB of RAM is plenty when I told him and explained why 16GB would probably be the minimum for live streaming with stuff going on in the background.

I never take up more than 2 gigs streaming, the only things I have open are my program and maybe notepad(I have a really nice mic but my voice is horrible)

[Captain_Slow]

Everyone watching would just be on fire if everyone sat in the conference had hp laptops on their lap

 

Maybe they'll just host it in alaska outdoors.

[Speedbird]

Maybe they'll just host it in alaska outdoors.

Then the laptops would be mini-heaters

[Captain_Slow]

Then the laptops would be mini-heaters

 

I think I have just found a situation where pople could benefit from HP laptops, I should be hired as their head of marketing.

[Extingquish]

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Congrats on the 10,000th post here

[MEC-777]

 

6. Customer buys HP with AMD processor and wonders why it overheats.

 

 

Wait, so it's normal that my HP Probook 455 G1 with an A8-4500M idles at 96 degrees?

 

 

Funny this should come up... AMD powered HP laptops overheating...  

 

We have an HP Pavilion DV5 laptop (4-5 years old now) with an AMD Turion II P540 dual-core and Radeon HD 4250 GPU that recently started getting very hot (fan running at 100% while just streaming video). So I cracked it open to find a TON of dust and crap built up inside, basically blocking any possible air flow through the cooler. 

 

I cleaned all the dust out and removed the CPU/GPU cooler to find they had used a mountain of thermal past on the CPU and a thermal "pad" on the GPU from the factory.  <_<

 

Cleaned all that up, tossed the thermal pad away and applied some new arctic silver paste (a small dab, instead of a giant blob). Runs nice and cool again, but at least now I know why it was getting so hot and thermal throttling itself all the time. Couldn't believe how much dust and crud had built up in there over the years. I guess when you own 4 dogs it doesn't help. lol.

 

Considering I only paid about $450 for it brand new, it's actually still a decently spec'd laptop and performs reasonably well. Got lucky as this particular model has a 7200rpm HDD instead of the painfully slow 5400rpm HDD's that normally come with most laptops. Actually makes quite a difference.

[Speedbird]

Funny this should come up... AMD powered HP laptops overheating...  

 

We have an HP Pavilion DV5 laptop (4-5 years old now) with an AMD Turion II P540 dual-core and Radeon HD 4250 GPU that recently started getting very hot (fan running at 100% while just streaming video). So I cracked it open to find a TON of dust and crap built up inside, basically blocking any possible air flow through the cooler. 

 

I cleaned all the dust out and removed the CPU/GPU cooler to find they had used a mountain of thermal past on the CPU and a thermal "pad" on the GPU from the factory.  <_<

 

Cleaned all that up, tossed the thermal pad away and applied some new arctic silver paste (a small dab, instead of a giant blob). Runs nice and cool again, but at least now I know why it was getting so hot and thermal throttling itself all the time. Couldn't believe how much dust and crud had built up in there over the years. I guess when you own 4 dogs it doesn't help. lol.

 

Considering I only paid about $450 for it brand new, it's actually still a decently spec'd laptop and performs reasonably well. Got lucky as this particular model has a 7200rpm HDD instead of the painfully slow 5400rpm HDD's that normally come with most laptops. Actually makes quite a difference.

My laptop seems to be OK, because the fan is almost silent and only the CPU sensors show a high temp. The motherboard sensors are fine, and so are the GPU sensors (this is an APU we're talking about). And yes, mine also has a 7200 rpm HDD but I think that all laptops should have SSDs and only desktops should have mechanical drives.

And my laptop seems to be quite popular too, I saw an ad for it in a tech magazine

[Wano97]

To be fair Guy 6 could be right. About a year ago one of my friends lost his 9800gt due to a dead fan allowing the GPu to overheat and crater. His screen looked like this when his pc crashed.

Maybe, but you can clearly see that her screen is just straight out broken. I had the exact same issue when I put way too much pressure on 1 place on my PSP-screen

You can see some sort of 'crack' on her top screen, the thing you're talking about would cause the WHOLE screen to look like this

[MEC-777]

My laptop seems to be OK, because the fan is almost silent and only the CPU sensors show a high temp. The motherboard sensors are fine, and so are the GPU sensors (this is an APU we're talking about). And yes, mine also has a 7200 rpm HDD but I think that all laptops should have SSDs and only desktops should have mechanical drives.

And my laptop seems to be quite popular too, I saw an ad for it in a tech magazine

Yeah, when I open GPUz on mine, there's no GPU temp reading, so don't think it even has a GPU temp sensor. lol. For what it is though, it's still performs pretty decent. Runs minecraft not too badly (1366x768) and runs in-home game streaming smoothly, regardless of the game - despite only being a dual-core. 

 

Indeed, SSDs makes so much more sense for notebooks/laptops. Lower power use and allows lower spec hardware to run much faster. I think the majority of "slow" laptops out there are a direct result of the slow HDDs bottlenecking, more than anything else.

 

My Chromebook was painfully slow with a 5400rpm drive. After swapping it out with an SSD it just absolutely flies now (cold-boots in 7 seconds) - with only a 1.1GHz dual-core Sandy Bridge based Celeron 847.

[DigitalHermit]

Derail:
99 followers, 10000posts, and 500 pages all in the same day...

[Rashy]

remember that tech-savvy guy i told you guys about when this thread was at 200-ish pages? he's back and running

Me: Yo, havent seen you in awhile

Friend: Ah yah i just upgraded my pc

Me: seriously? what did you do?

Friend: I upgraded my RAM

Me: Didnt you have that 8gb dual channel i showed you?

Friend: It broke, i ran some tests on it and it says its malfunctioning so i got a new one

Me: Which one....?

Friend: 1TB DDR4 Quad Channel Ram with a watercooled heatsink. I just re-arranged my loop.

Me: Thats awesome bro..............

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*We were having IT Class in school and we got to the old computer lab*

Friend: Hey dude can you check this thing? *points out an old dusty machine in the corner with side panels opened*

Me: Yah sure

Friend: Can you tell whats wrong?

Me: *areyoukiddingme face* Yeah... the CPU... it broke into two.

Friend: Nah its whole

Me: No look *points to CPU*

Friend: Oh that little chip, Didnt Mr.B(My IT Teacher) teach us that this whole thing is a CPU?

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sometimes i wonder how he got a nice 690 while im here stuck with a 7790

[Dude]

remember that tech-savvy guy i told you guys about when this thread was at 200-ish pages? he's back and running

Me: Yo, havent seen you in awhile

Friend: Ah yah i just upgraded my pc

Me: seriously? what did you do?

Friend: I upgraded my RAM

Me: Didnt you have that 8gb dual channel i showed you?

Friend: It broke, i ran some tests on it and it says its malfunctioning so i got a new one

Me: Which one....?

Friend: 1TB DDR4 Quad Channel Ram with a watercooled heatsink. I just re-arranged my loop.

Me: Thats awesome bro..............

---

*We were having IT Class in school and we got to the old computer lab*

Friend: Hey dude can you check this thing? *points out an old dusty machine in the corner with side panels opened*

Me: Yah sure

Friend: Can you tell whats wrong?

Me: *areyoukiddingme face* Yeah... the CPU... it broke into two.

Friend: Nah its whole

Me: No look *points to CPU*

Friend: Oh that little chip, Didnt Mr.B(My IT Teacher) teach us that this whole thing is a CPU?

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sometimes i wonder how he got a nice 690 while im here stuck with a 7790

Imagine all the porn tabs I could have open with 1TB of RAM...

[Guest andyysplash]

Imagine all the porn tabs I could have open with 1TB of RAM...

I wonder how much slower SSD swap space would be than say 1600MHz DDR3 RAM. Should swap fast enough for plenty of tabs even on <4GB ram

[colonel_mortis]

I wonder how much slower SSD swap space would be than say 1600MHz DDR3 RAM. Should swap fast enough for plenty of tabs even on <4GB ram

For me, firefox just crashes (sometimes) when I run out of ram (normally when playing brokenfield 4), but I guess that's partly because I'm using an alpha version

[STRMfrmXMN]

well my Mom owns a Mac and shes one of the nicest people ever, same with my Uncle and my Auntie, and same with my friend.  

Not saying that they aren't, but too many just buy one without putting that 1000+ dollar computer to good use.

Someone who uses it for media production, that's who I like to see using Macs, justifying they're really quite expensive purchase. A lot of people could've bought a $300 netbook and gotten the same results rather than buying a Macbook Pro that costs 5 times as much.

[Ruostunut kokis]

Yesterday at high school on Citizenship education (or whatever that is in English): we we're doing a presentation and we needed internet connection for recearching. THe wlan connection at our high school likes to not work at times, so we were pretty much stuck on smartphones acting as wireless hotspots. One girl said the following:

 

"Why is my connection so slow? It should be a 2 gig connection!" (maybe it's the data cap? Although she meant bandwidth, on which she was wrong).

 

 

Related to our high school's wlan which works about 90% of the time: we've told middle school kids to not connect to that wireless connection, as it's preserved for high school students. Do they listen? Nope. Some student just hands out the wlan password and it spreads... It's not getting slow or anything, it's just that they're taking away most of the available IP addresses, as only 255 can be handed. (someone correct my mistakes, as I know jack sh*t about networking)

[Darkman]

I never take up more than 2 gigs streaming, the only things I have open are my program and maybe notepad(I have a really nice mic but my voice is horrible)

Yeah, but he uses just under 4gb of RAM while Waterfox is open, games take a little over 1.5GB depending on what it is, and then having everything running to stream... 6GB might be a slight problem with it.

 

remember that tech-savvy guy i told you guys about when this thread was at 200-ish pages? he's back and running

Me: Yo, havent seen you in awhile

Friend: Ah yah i just upgraded my pc

Me: seriously? what did you do?

Friend: I upgraded my RAM

Me: Didnt you have that 8gb dual channel i showed you?

Friend: It broke, i ran some tests on it and it says its malfunctioning so i got a new one

Me: Which one....?

Friend: 1TB DDR4 Quad Channel Ram with a watercooled heatsink. I just re-arranged my loop.

Me: Thats awesome bro..............

---

*We were having IT Class in school and we got to the old computer lab*

Friend: Hey dude can you check this thing? *points out an old dusty machine in the corner with side panels opened*

Me: Yah sure

Friend: Can you tell whats wrong?

Me: *areyoukiddingme face* Yeah... the CPU... it broke into two.

Friend: Nah its whole

Me: No look *points to CPU*

Friend: Oh that little chip, Didnt Mr.B(My IT Teacher) teach us that this whole thing is a CPU?

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sometimes i wonder how he got a nice 690 while im here stuck with a 7790

I want a 690, your GPU is even better than mine, not much, but it is...

A little offtopic, I'll need to upgrade my GPU sometime in 2015 hopefully.

[juretrn]

Imagine all the porn tabs I could have open with 1TB of RAM...

  

So many that your d*** would fall off .

Yesterday at high school on Citizenship education (or whatever that is in English): we we're doing a presentation and we needed internet connection for recearching. THe wlan connection at our high school likes to not work at times, so we were pretty much stuck on smartphones acting as wireless hotspots. One girl said the following:

 

"Why is my connection so slow? It should be a 2 gig connection!" (maybe it's the data cap? Although she meant bandwidth, on which she was wrong).

 

 

Related to our high school's wlan which works about 90% of the time: we've told middle school kids to not connect to that wireless connection, as it's preserved for high school students. Do they listen? Nope. Some student just hands out the wlan password and it spreads... It's not getting slow or anything, it's just that they're taking away most of the available IP addresses, as only 255 can be handed. (someone correct my mistakes, as I know jack sh*t about networking)

Depends on how you set up the router. You can have 1 or 10000 users pet subnet if your equipment can handle that.

[Ruostunut kokis]

  

So many that your d*** would fall off .

Depends on how you set up the router. You can have 1 or 10000 users pet subnet if your equipment can handle that.

I don't know exactly how have they set it all up in there (nor do I have much knowledge about networking), but that's what our old, but tech savvy teacher who's responsible for our school's tech support told us (seriously: he's in his 70s or 80s, still teaches math and IT, plus he understands surprisingly a lot of modern tech for his age and never stops learning when some new technology comes out)

[Keponi]

I'm just going to leave this here...

 

 

and then the best one of all (this guy wasn't being sarcastic, he was in an argument with someone else when he brought this up)

 

[Darkman]

I'm just going to leave this here...

 

 

and then the best one of all (this guy wasn't being sarcastic, he was in an argument with someone else when he brought this up)

 

It's sad what people believe, the "8 core" in the PS4 isn't a good performer. My old 1st gen i5 650 with it being a dualcore performs better..

[CtW]

I'm just going to leave this here...

 

 

and then the best one of all (this guy wasn't being sarcastic, he was in an argument with someone else when he brought this up)

 

This should be sent to those people

 

 

[CtW]

I found this gem in the comments for Cnet's  video on the new Alienware Area 51 (I want to mod the shit out of that case)

Link to video: 

[Guest]

Friend of me to me at a party:

 

Gonna buy a new pc! 2 TB of storage man!

 

'let me build it, quality parts, cheaper and really 2 TB is nothing special, 70 euro or something.

 

nah, I am going to buy it.

 

.....

 

 

Asked him recently if he bought it and went to explain that he would really need to build it, sends me a photo of the thing.

 

Says it was 230 euro...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

230 euro.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I gave up, good luck with that shitty calculator, I give it 6 months before it starts having problems.

 

 

Fuck ignorant people. let them throw their money away, I won't help him if he asks. I won't waste even a minute on crap unless he will pay me when that time comes when it fails.

[Akolyte]

Friend of me to me at a party:

 

Gonna buy a new pc! 2 TB of storage man!

 

'let me build it, quality parts, cheaper and really 2 TB is nothing special, 70 euro or something.

 

nah, I am going to buy it.

 

.....

 

 

Asked him recently if he bought it and went to explain that he would really need to build it, sends me a photo of the thing.

 

Says it was 230 euro...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

230 euro.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I gave up, good luck with that shitty calculator, I give it 6 months before it starts having problems.

 

 

Fuck ignorant people. let them throw their money away, I won't help him if he asks. I won't waste even a minute on crap unless he will pay me when that time comes when it fails.

A friend of mine once told me "hey dude gonna get the best gaming pc ever" and we were good friends but would compete and see who was the best.  He didn't want me to build his pc because I don't think he wanted to seem like a noob. 

 

So, he went to the Local PC shop (you know where this is going...) I come with him just to see what kinda things hes ordering, He doesn't want me to so I ask a friend of mine to go in there and sort of spy and then report back.  Anyways, my friend asks the guy "hey, can I get a good gaming pc?"  

 

The guy replies "sure, whats your budget?" 

 

Friend: "$1200"

 

Guy: "sure, we can work something out.  We've got these builds you can get, they are awesome gaming builds.  We've got a core i3, a core i5 and a core i7.  They all come with monitors and keyboards and mice, with your budget your able to get the core i3 one"

 

Friend: "My Mate has a core i5, is a core i3 better than a core i5?"

 

Guy: "Yep sure is"

 

Friend:  "Okay, I'll get it"

 

Guy: "Come back in two days and we'll have it built for you!"

 

Friend: "Yeah, Cheers" 

 

So, I go and hear what my spy has to say, I visit my friend's house and go and asked him "What kinda graphics card is going in it?"  He replied "HD graphics! They can play games at full HD!".  I replied "So then, you don't have a graphics card?  You should have a graphics card in a $1200 rig...", so my friend says "Yeah, the graphics card is built in!, The guy at the store is really good at building computers!  So I'll just do what he says" 

 

Two days later:

 

My friend goes down to the pc store.

 

He comes back and we decide to play some planetside 2 together! 

 

His PC's stock cooler starts roaring and the lag comes! His PC is at 10fps on low settings!  He looks at my pc and its running fantastically! 

 

He was pretty ignorant.