Experiences with non-techies

[GirlFromYonder]

Just now, AA-RonRosen said:

That actually scared me 

ill post the video here. But after ny gtx 1080ti anaylsis video

[Bleedingyamato]

11 hours ago, kaiju_wars said:

True, I'll just reply with, "Oh, is that so?  Hmm."

You should do your own Wonka meme for that.  I'd love to see that.  ?

 

1 hour ago, DeezNoNos said:

Can I use TIM as nail polish

No but you could use Arcticlean #2 and have lemony fresh nails.  ?

 

http://www.arcticsilver.com/arcticlean.htm

 

(Note: Idk if it's actually safe to do this.)

[GirlFromYonder]

Just now, Bleedingyamato said:

You should do your own Wonka meme for that.  I'd love to see that.  ?

 

No but you could use Arcticlean #2 and have lemony fresh nails.  ?

 

http://www.arcticsilver.com/arcticlean.htm

 

(Note: Idk if it's actually safe to do this.)

lol 

 

[LucasDerpYT]

My dad thinks that a gt 610 is on par with a 1050 because they have 2 gb vram

[themctipers]

5 minutes ago, LucasDerpYT said:

My dad thinks that a gt 610 is on par with a 1050 because they have 2 gb vram

my dad bought a gt 610 for $120

 

he wanted a gt 730/710, glad i stopped him from buying one

 

hint hint: we have a spare gtx 760 laying around y'know

[kaiju_wars]

9 hours ago, Bleedingyamato said:

You should do your own Wonka meme for that.  I'd love to see that.  ?

 

Maybe I will, lol

 

[kaiju_wars]

So, I was in a discussion with someone in Discord, and I mentioned how the 470 is the bang-for-the-buck card this gen.  And how when it comes to DX12 and Vulkan games, the 480 > 1060.  But in DX11 1060 > 480.

I got called an AMD fanboy.  

 

I was like, bitch, I have a 780...

 

Why do people get called fanboys for being objective?

[Bananasplit_00]

Just now, kaiju_wars said:

So, I was in a discussion with someone in Discord, and I mentioned how the 470 is the bang-for-the-buck card this gen.  And how when it comes to DX12 and Vulkan games, the 480 > 1060.  But in DX11 1060 > 480.

I got called an AMD fanboy.  

 

I was like, bitch, I have a 780...

 

Why do people get called fanboys for being objective?

because they have no real information and are themselves fanboys of Nvidia and Intel and think AMD can only produce shit because thats how the marketing goes

[kaiju_wars]

1 minute ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

because they have no real information and are themselves fanboys of Nvidia and Intel and think AMD can only produce shit because thats how the marketing goes

True, this is the same guy that said you need at least an i7 for gaming.  Then said that x99 i7s are the only real i7s, then said that the x99 platform is only for Xeons and for servers.

 

Yeah, this is the same guy.

 

Oh, he also believes you must have at least two 1070s in SLI to push highest settings, good framerates, at any resolution.

Yet here I am playing Overwatch on Ultra at 60 FPS, 1080p.

[themctipers]

5 minutes ago, kaiju_wars said:

So, I was in a discussion with someone in Discord, and I mentioned how the 470 is the bang-for-the-buck card this gen.  And how when it comes to DX12 and Vulkan games, the 480 > 1060.  But in DX11 1060 > 480.

I got called an AMD fanboy.  

 

I was like, bitch, I have a 780...

 

Why do people get called fanboys for being objective?

I get called an iSheep for pointing out that I prefer iOS over android (design, I already know iOS, longer device lifespan, timely updates) and that battery life is superior in parts where I care (music playback, idle, cell idle) and for me personally, jailbreak >>> root (find something like yt++ on android that performs as good or better.. Good luck.)

 

and imessage.  

[Bananasplit_00]

1 hour ago, themctipers said:

I get called an iSheep for pointing out that I prefer iOS over android (design, I already know iOS, longer device lifespan, timely updates) and that battery life is superior in parts where I care (music playback, idle, cell idle) and for me personally, jailbreak >>> root (find something like yt++ on android that performs as good or better.. Good luck.)

 

and imessage.  

the software isnt bad but the hardware and price is what puts it of for me

[LucasDerpYT]

3 hours ago, themctipers said:

my dad bought a gt 610 for $120

 

he wanted a gt 730/710, glad i stopped him from buying one

 

hint hint: we have a spare gtx 760 laying around y'know

We by did you let him do yhat

[Bleedingyamato]

2 hours ago, kaiju_wars said:

So, I was in a discussion with someone in Discord, and I mentioned how the 470 is the bang-for-the-buck card this gen.  And how when it comes to DX12 and Vulkan games, the 480 > 1060.  But in DX11 1060 > 480.

I got called an AMD fanboy.  

 

I was like, bitch, I have a 780...

 

Why do people get called fanboys for being objective?

What games can use dx12 and/or Vulkan though?    Serious innocent question.  I know Rise of the Tomb Raider can use dx12 and Doom 2016 can use Vulkan but that's all I personally know of.  I'm curious what else there is that uses those.  

 

To answer your question: you can't argue with stupid.  ?    

 

 

Do drivers really make that much difference?    

I mean a 480 is supposed to match a 970 not a 1060 I'd heard.  I'm interested to learn what bridged that performance gap.    

 

2 hours ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

because they have no real information and are themselves fanboys of Nvidia and Intel and think AMD can only produce shit because thats how the marketing goes

I do prefer Nvidia.  I had a few frustrating experiences with some of my first laptops that had AMD GPUs so it turned me off to them.  

 

Idk where I got this from but my impression of Nvidia is that they make more technically advanced GPUs that are more power efficient while AMD makes GPUs that perform due to brute force and use more power to achieve that performance.  Like a body builder using steroids.  

 

I assume that all isn't correct but it's in my brain.  I just don't know any better...  ?

 

2 hours ago, kaiju_wars said:

True, this is the same guy that said you need at least an i7 for gaming.  Then said that x99 i7s are the only real i7s, then said that the x99 platform is only for Xeons and for servers.

 

Yeah, this is the same guy.

 

Oh, he also believes you must have at least two 1070s in SLI to push highest settings, good framerates, at any resolution.

Yet here I am playing Overwatch on Ultra at 60 FPS, 1080p.

An i7 does help but it's not strictly required so he's like 40% right.    You got to love when people contradict themselves.  lol

 

To be fair doesn't Overwatch have rather mild requirements?  (Not anywhere remotely near needing 1070 SLI I mean.) 

 

That guy is a special kind of stupid.  lol 

[Bananasplit_00]

8 minutes ago, Bleedingyamato said:

 

 

they make more technically advanced GPUs that are more power efficient while AMD makes GPUs that perform due to brute force and use more power to achieve that performance.  Like a body builder using steroids.  

 

 

and THAT is the marketing i was talking about, AMD does draw more power but they are definatly as technically advanced as NVIDIA, and seeing as NVIDIA is the heavy hitter that would be them on steroids seeing as Pascall is just buff AF Maxwell lol

[kaiju_wars]

22 minutes ago, Bleedingyamato said:

What games can use dx12 and/or Vulkan though?    Serious innocent question.  I know Rise of the Tomb Raider can use dx12 and Doom 2016 can use Vulkan but that's all I personally know of.  I'm curious what else there is that uses those.  

 

To answer your question: you can't argue with stupid.  ?    

 

 

Do drivers really make that much difference?    

I mean a 480 is supposed to match a 970 not a 1060 I'd heard.  I'm interested to learn what bridged that performance gap.    

 

An i7 does help but it's not strictly required so he's like 40% right.    You got to love when people contradict themselves.  lol

 

To be fair doesn't Overwatch have rather mild requirements?  (Not anywhere remotely near needing 1070 SLI I mean.) 

 

That guy is a special kind of stupid.  lol 

Gears of War 4, Titanfall 2, and Battlefield 1 use DX12.  
Granted, BF1 sees negligible performance gains on DX12, but Gears 4 is only using DX12.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_12_support

Here's a more complete list.

Here's a list also with games with Vulkan support

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_Vulkan_support

 

Also, he isn't even 40% right.  

An 860k, FX 6300, 8350, an i3 6100, i5 6500... they all game just fine.  This guy is just one of those elitists who think that you don't have a gaming PC until you pay a certain amount of money for your hardware.

[kaiju_wars]

@Bleedingyamato

You asked for a meme?

[Space Reptile]

5 minutes ago, kaiju_wars said:

MY TEACHER IN A NUTSHELL 

 

>6700k

>z170 gaming
>"i dont overclock"
>"i dont need dedicated graphics"
>uses a MS-Tech "750watt" (it explodes at under 500w) 

>"other powersupplys fail too"

 

ಠ_ಠ

[Guest]

14 minutes ago, kaiju_wars said:

Also, he isn't even 40% right.  

An 860k, FX 6300, 8350, an i3 6100, i5 6500... they all game just fine.  This guy is just one of those elitists who think that you don't have a gaming PC until you pay a certain amount of money for your hardware.

Granted, they will all play games, but some will run games much better than others. If all you want to do is get 30fps in easy to run games you'll be fine with, say the 6100 but more intensive games will require, say, the 6500 to run at a decent frame rate. It's the same for GPUs. You can be fine on slower ones but you'll get a better experience with a more expensive and powerful card. By some definitions some people may not agree that they game fine but it depends more on what you expect from a good experience. 

[kaiju_wars]

2 minutes ago, bear-in-the-air said:

Granted, they will all play games, but some will run games much better than others. If all you want to do is get 30fps in easy to run games you'll be fine with, say the 6100 but more intensive games will require, say, the 6500 to run at a decent frame rate. It's the same for GPUs. You can be fine on slower ones but you'll get a better experience with a more expensive and powerful card. By some definitions some people may not agree that they game fine but it depends more on what you expect from a good experience. 

I'm getting 60fps on my 860k, granted I have a decent GPU, but still.

I wouldn't put two 1080s in SLI on my 860K, but for 1080p gaming, it's perfect.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, kaiju_wars said:

I'm getting 60fps on my 860k, granted I have a decent GPU, but still.

I wouldn't put two 1080s in SLI on my 860K, but for 1080p gaming, it's perfect.

It all depends how hard the games are to run. you can get 60fps in some games and others barely reaching 10fps. GTA V runs at 50fps on my cpu but it might run on less on yours (to the point where it's not really playable) or more on other CPUs

[Silentprototipe]

17 minutes ago, Space Reptile said:

MY TEACHER IN A NUTSHELL 

 

>6700k

>z170 gaming
>"i dont overclock"
>"i dont need dedicated graphics"
>uses a MS-Tech "750watt" (it explodes at under 500w) 

>"other powersupplys fail too"

 

ಠ_ಠ

Wat, I think I lost a brain cell 

[kaiju_wars]

7 minutes ago, bear-in-the-air said:

It all depends how hard the games are to run. you can get 60fps in some games and others barely reaching 10fps. GTA V runs at 50fps on my cpu but it might run on less on yours (to the point where it's not really playable) or more on other CPUs

No, it runs pretty decent.  Granted my CPU is overclocked, but like i've said, I have no trouble running anything I throw at it.

[Bananasplit_00]

33 minutes ago, bear-in-the-air said:

Granted, they will all play games, but some will run games much better than others. If all you want to do is get 30fps in easy to run games you'll be fine with, say the 6100 but more intensive games will require, say, the 6500 to run at a decent frame rate. It's the same for GPUs. You can be fine on slower ones but you'll get a better experience with a more expensive and powerful card. By some definitions some people may not agree that they game fine but it depends more on what you expect from a good experience. 

any of those paired with a 470 would make a pretty good 1080p machine

[Teddy07]

On 22.1.2013 at 2:15 AM, iarejesus said:

I built a PC for my younger brother. Worst mistake, he thinks I owe him a lifetimes worth of customer support or something.

 

 

So true. Same problem with my sister.

 

wow didnt know i responded to an old post

[Bleedingyamato]

1 hour ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

and THAT is the marketing i was talking about, AMD does draw more power but they are definatly as technically advanced as NVIDIA, and seeing as NVIDIA is the heavy hitter that would be them on steroids seeing as Pascall is just buff AF Maxwell lol

Ah.  I guess it would more correct to say that AMD GPUs achieve their performance differently from Nvidia?

 

That's right isn't it?    AMD cards don't function the same as Nvidia's do.  That's why I've heard AMD cards are better for async computing whatever that is.

 

I assume there's differences between green and red in how their GPUs work.  These differences affect what each brand is good or bad at.  

 

I was saying AMD was ok steroids based on the assumption they had to brute force their way to achieve high performance (things like using a lot more power) while Nvidia achieved the same or often better it seems at least currently by other more elegantly technical means that allowed them to be more energy efficient.

 

Basically I was implying that AMD got performance by cheating with designs that got high performance with less r&d effort which made them guzzle power whereas Nvidia went to the gym and earned its muscles the hard way.  lol

 

(From what you've just told me it seems I was mistaken about some ideas I had about AMD. ?)

 

1 hour ago, kaiju_wars said:

Gears of War 4, Titanfall 2, and Battlefield 1 use DX12.  
Granted, BF1 sees negligible performance gains on DX12, but Gears 4 is only using DX12.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_12_support

Here's a more complete list.

Here's a list also with games with Vulkan support

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_Vulkan_support

 

Also, he isn't even 40% right.  

An 860k, FX 6300, 8350, an i3 6100, i5 6500... they all game just fine.  This guy is just one of those elitists who think that you don't have a gaming PC until you pay a certain amount of money for your hardware.

Ah.  Yeah..  I don't have GoW4 on PC (Xbox One), and don't play the other two.  I'll take a look at those lists thank you.  

 

Sorry.  That's why I said an i7 wasn't required but it helps.  An i5 or i3, heck even a Pentium in the right cases can be more than good enough.  But as Bear said better like an i7 has benefits.  More stable fps I think, better frame times, other stuff maybe.    I think I was shown a video a while back when I was picking out a CPU for Usagi for my friend that explained why an i7 was helpful if you could afford it.  

 

P.S.: I used 40% because I like 4.  lol

1 hour ago, kaiju_wars said:

@Bleedingyamato

You asked for a meme?

 

Yessss.  That's awesome!  You actually did it!  ?

 

Spoiler

 

 

1 hour ago, Space Reptile said:

MY TEACHER IN A NUTSHELL 

 

>6700k

>z170 gaming
>"i dont overclock"
>"i dont need dedicated graphics"
>uses a MS-Tech "750watt" (it explodes at under 500w) 

>"other powersupplys fail too"

 

ಠ_ಠ

But..  But..  I have a 6700K and a Z170 and I don't OC...  

 

1 hour ago, bear-in-the-air said:

Granted, they will all play games, but some will run games much better than others. If all you want to do is get 30fps in easy to run games you'll be fine with, say the 6100 but more intensive games will require, say, the 6500 to run at a decent frame rate. It's the same for GPUs. You can be fine on slower ones but you'll get a better experience with a more expensive and powerful card. By some definitions some people may not agree that they game fine but it depends more on what you expect from a good experience. 

Yes.  This.  Better isn't always required but it can help.