Samsung Announces Five New 4K Monitors To Be Released 2015 - All Of Them Support FreeSync

[Orblivion]

are there any compromising choosing free sync over gsync? obviously freesync is free, so im guessing it wont be as "powerful" as g-sync? 

 

We won't know until people can actually get their hands on one, but AMD claims that it is just as good (of course).

[Gdourado]

Posted this on another thread.

Think it is pertinent :

From what I read about G-sync, what it does is that it syncs the monitor refresh rate with the GPU on the fly. That is particularly important in games, since the fps (refresh rate of the gpu) on a game engine can have a random nature and shift in real time. One second the game can be running at 130 fps and the second later it can drop to 90, then increase to 125,then drop to 107 and so on. It is random. Depends on a lot of factors on the game itself and the rest of your system.

G-sync keeps the monitor synced with the game refresh rate at all times and in real time. To me that is what g-sync does what why it needs it's hardware module on the monitor with its own processor and memory.

Is freesync comparable? That is the real question. I never saw or heard of a freesync demo where the monitor was synced in real time to a randomly shifting refresh.

Freesync until now only synced GPU with monitors for fixed scenes. Not game engines running in real time.

[Levis95l]

IPS is an LG tech, so only LG panels can be IPS. Samsungs will probably be some sort of VA tech, PVA and/or VA, or something similar, I would guess.

Samsung uses usually PLS if I'm not terribly mistaken. (And I might well be.)

[Humbug]

are there any compromising choosing free sync over gsync? obviously freesync is free, so im guessing it wont be as "powerful" as g-sync? 

Theoretically both should be awesome and achieve the same end effect.

 

But we will have to wait for independent reviews.

 

[Notional]

Samsung uses usually PLS if I'm not terribly mistaken. (And I might well be.)

 

Indeed, PLS seems to be Samsung high end panel with good viewangles and colour reproduction, but they are usually very expensive right? Would love a curved 34" 21:9 3440x1440 PLS monitor with Adaptive Sync from Samsung at a much better price than LG's IPS ones. But it will probably be a year or two anyways.

[AlwaysFSX]

Oooh, I'd like a UHD display that's between 23 and 24 inches. Anything larger is too large IMHO.

[xtroria]

Definitely a pretty good win for AMD. Many manufacturers will just flock to free-sync as it doesn't require licensing fees and also being a somewhat part of VESA's standard, they might as well put it in their monitors.

 

Hopefully, no one will be make G-sync monitor anymore to force Nvidia using VESA adaptive sync, making freesync almost an industry standard

[Glenwing]

IPS is an LG tech, so only LG panels can be IPS. Samsungs will probably be some sort of VA tech, PVA and/or VA, or something similar, I would guess.

Samsung has their own version of IPS called PLS which is basically the same thing. They will probably use that.

[mr moose]

Well Acer have a 4K Gsync 28" out for $799 at the moment so I hope these will be cheaper than that. 

[cubercaleb]

Nice, but knowing Samshit they probably have over saturated shitty oled screens.

[zacRupnow]

Are any of them IPS

[PortentousLad]

now that's what I'm waitintg for...   mmmmmh 4k

 

 

 

cool gif! :lol:

[Techhog]

Article OP posted says 1.1. So is the article wrong (not saying it isn't)? 

 

"FreeSync will be supported in a range of AMD's graphics cards, athough not all of them: you'll need a GCN 1.1 GPU or higher, like the Radeon R9 290 or R9 290X." 

 

From what I see 1.1 means the True Audio cards. 285 I think is GCN 2.0? So that should have it as well. 

It's GCN 1.2

[bry.yyyy]

Gsync ?

[BloodySinner]

AMD leading the way. Glad I bought my R9 290. However, I'm not sure about the Asus VG248QE. Though, it is a great monitor. Perhaps I should have waited until 2015?

 

waiting for a 1440p version

 

Waiting for 4K IPS panel @ 144hz!

[ShadowCaptain]

Indeed, PLS seems to be Samsung high end panel with good viewangles and colour reproduction, but they are usually very expensive right? Would love a curved 34" 21:9 3440x1440 PLS monitor with Adaptive Sync from Samsung at a much better price than LG's IPS ones. But it will probably be a year or two anyways.

 

Yes samsung use PLS

 

My 1440p AOC monitor uses a samsung PLS panel, and its one of the cheapest 1440p screens in the uk

[Silent_Xaxal]

I wait patiently for the 21:9 monitor applications and for the 1:1 monitor applications for those with more squared tastes.

[Gdourado]

Is 2015 gonna be the year of 4k?

Meaning, would it be stupid to buy a 1440p monitor this December? Even if it is a 144hz model?

 

Cheers!

[spartaman64]

:sigh: When will we have monitors that both support G-Sync and FreeSync??

all new g sync monitors with displayport 1.2a or higher will support free sync

[spartaman64]

are there any compromising choosing free sync over gsync? obviously freesync is free, so im guessing it wont be as "powerful" as g-sync? 

they will be pretty much the same as they achieve the same purpose

[spartaman64]

Posted this on another thread.

Think it is pertinent :

From what I read about G-sync, what it does is that it syncs the monitor refresh rate with the GPU on the fly. That is particularly important in games, since the fps (refresh rate of the gpu) on a game engine can have a random nature and shift in real time. One second the game can be running at 130 fps and the second later it can drop to 90, then increase to 125,then drop to 107 and so on. It is random. Depends on a lot of factors on the game itself and the rest of your system.

G-sync keeps the monitor synced with the game refresh rate at all times and in real time. To me that is what g-sync does what why it needs it's hardware module on the monitor with its own processor and memory.

Is freesync comparable? That is the real question. I never saw or heard of a freesync demo where the monitor was synced in real time to a randomly shifting refresh.

Freesync until now only synced GPU with monitors for fixed scenes. Not game engines running in real time.

? adaptive sync is already a common and proven technology on laptops providing real time variable refresh

[BroliviaWilde]

all new g sync monitors with displayport 1.2a or higher will support free sync

 

I think you are only partially right about that.

 

My understanding could be outdated, but as far as I know, that according to the VESA standard, Adaotive Sync is an OPTIONAL part of the standard and not mandatory.  So this means just because a monitor is made with DP 1.2, it doesn't mean that it will support Adaptive Sync.  

[razor767]

Nice to see FreeSync gain some traction.

[Psykomantis00]

are there any compromising choosing free sync over gsync? obviously freesync is free, so im guessing it wont be as "powerful" as g-sync? 

I don't know about the gritty specifics but it seems nvidia stands to lose money where AMD wants to embrace an open standard. Nvidia is more about money, AMD seems to be more about the people. 

[dalekphalm]

:sigh: When will we have monitors that both support G-Sync and FreeSync??

All the monitor needs to support, is Adaptive-Sync, remember that FreeSync is AMD's software side compliment to the Adaptive-Sync DP standard (Even if AMD helped make that a reality). Though once most gaming monitors support Adaptive-Sync, NVIDIA will jump on board, since they can most likely modify the GPU/Software side of G-Sync to work with Adaptive-Sync.

 

It is possible to have both in 1 monitor. But that'll be more expensive than just one option. I hope we'll get a standard some day.

You could in theory probably build a monitor with both a G-Sync module, as well as a Adaptive-Sync Scaler, but I doubt it would be practical, since both pieces do the same thing. Unless there was a hardware "switch" inside, but that would definitely increase the cost.

 

Newer monitors that feature G-Sync will probably also support FreeSync.

Possible. Hard to say though, since G-Sync requires a separate module. Quite possible though.

 

Or Nvidia can just suck it up and support FreeSync along with their G-Sync. Doubt it, they wan't to dig everyone's pockets like they always do.

Eventually they'll just rebrand G-Sync so that there is no separate G-Sync module. That's my guess. The software side of G-Sync can likely be modified to support Adaptive-Sync.

 

I dont think its possible, unless you get nVidia to write something into the G-Sync processing module in the monitor itself to handle FreeSync. Since the monitor scalor and other hardware has to support it, and in G-Sync monitors, that stuff all comes direct from nVidia.

 

Seeing as nVidia refuses to have anything to do with FreeSync whatsoever, dont hold your breath.

FreeSync is only AMD's software side compliment. NVIDIA can, and will (eventually), support Adaptive-Sync, which is the monitor-side component and standard.

 

are there any compromising choosing free sync over gsync? obviously freesync is free, so im guessing it wont be as "powerful" as g-sync? 

Honestly we just don't know. We'll have to wait for actual production Adaptive-Sync/FreeSync monitors to hit reviewers. I'm definitely looking forward to a Anandtech, PCPer, and Hardware Canucks review of them.

 

IPS is an LG tech, so only LG panels can be IPS. Samsungs will probably be some sort of VA tech, PVA and/or VA, or something similar, I would guess.

What?

 

No.... No it's not. Not exclusively anyway:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPS_panel

 

After thorough analysis, details of advantageous molecular arrangements were filed in Germany by Guenter Baur et al. and patented in various countries including the US on January 9, 1990.[3][4] The Fraunhofer Society in Freiburg, where the inventors worked, assigned these patents to Merck KGaA, Darmstadt, Germany.

Shortly thereafter, Hitachi of Japan filed patents to improve this technology. A leader in this field was Katsumi Kondo, who worked at the Hitachi Research Center.[5]

Later, LG and other South Korean, Japanese, and Taiwanese LCD manufacturers adapted IPS technology.

 

Manufacturers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPS_panel#Manufacturers

 

    LG Display (mentioned as largest supplier of IPS LCDs in 2012)[15]

    Samsung Display

    Sony Professional Display

    Japan Display Inc.

    Panasonic Liquid Crystal Display Co., Ltd

    AU Optronics

 

LG is simply the LARGEST supplier of IPS.

 

Samsung does have it's own proprietary version though, PLS (Or Super PLS), which was mentioned above.

 

Unless you can provide another link that explicitly states LG owns exclusive rights to IPS technology?