EU Commissioner Calls Nude Celebs 'Dumb' Over Taking Pictures (BBC)

[adman29]

Now, this was posted the other day (1 October 2014) on BBC under the tech articles. Basically what happened (You can read the article, link below) is during a meeting, EU "Digital Head" Günther Oettinger called the celebrities dumb, and is now facing major flak for this statement. If you have anything to add or comments, please place them in the comments below. 

 

1^st Off, can we call this politically correct? In my view, as a major official of the EU, it wasn't really the brightest move, and could have definitely worded his statement much better.

 

2^nd Of all, we have to bring up the fact that could this be victim bashing? Whenever you call these people in a meeting "Dumb" is it not attacking their character, much less not taking into account that much of the general public, doesn't really quite know the risk to this. (Note: Yes Celebrities are part of the general public, at least in terms of tech. They are not part of the industry and it's doubtful that they know much about cyber security)

 

3^rd What does this mean for the future? If a major official is calling celebrities dumb over this incident, therefore some action must be taken. Could it be some sort of education program, or simplification of the long contracts that you click a "little bubble" to agree to without reading, saying that there is no guarantee that we can protect your privacy. 

 

EU commissioner: Nude celebs 'dumb' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-29443022

 

 

 

[Si3Rra_7]

Taking naked photos on our smartphones is dumb in our day and age , with all these backdoors , i kinda agree with him but i'm sorry for the celebs , they should be more careful since there are hackers at every corner .

 

I woudn't have called them dumb as a person in general , just a dumb decision of photographing themselves since they are a huge target to this.

 

In example , i wouldn't think miss Obama would take nude pictures since every hacker must have browsed her photos ( or attempted to )

[Jobbe03]

Taking naked photos on our smartphones is dumb in our day and age , with all these backdoors

Take all the pics you want just don't upload it all over the place. 

[Bogica]

Agreed. Women and girls, even more so, have nudes or almost nude pictures of themselves more often than men, none the less, what someone keeps in their phone doesn't define them as smart or stupid. I agree that it was stupid to upload them anywhere, but that's a whole different story. We are talking about taking nude pics of yourself.

[Si3Rra_7]

Take all the pics you want just don't upload it all over the place. 

Not even upload , Taking them at all could compromise your privacy , especially if you don't have additional anti-malware protaction

[Si3Rra_7]

Agreed. Women and girls, even more so, have nudes or almost nude pictures of themselves more often than men, none the less, what someone keeps in their phone doesn't define them as smart or stupid. I agree that it was stupid to upload them anywhere, but that's a whole different story. We are talking about taking nude pics of yourself.

If you have an internet connected phone don't have anything compromising on it . You don't have to upload it to make it susceptible to haxorz

[Jobbe03]

Not even upload , Taking them at all could compromise your privacy , especially if you don't have additional anti-malware protaction

"Taking them at all could compromise your privacy"

 

Nope. Just don't be an idiot with your phone 

[Si3Rra_7]

"Taking them at all could compromise your privacy"

 

Nope. Just don't be an idiot with your phone 

See ? exactly what i mean , if you don't have a "course" in Phone/Internet Security you're vulnerable . And since celebrities don't take invest time in keeping secure they should rather not take revealing pictures with their smartphones , i'd rather them take it with a DSLR or other non internet connected device , then keep them for whatever reason

[EChondo]

1^st Off, can we call this politically correct? In my view, as a major official of the EU, it wasn't really the brightest move, and could have definitely worded his statement much better.

I don't know, I would give him a high five if he said dumb or "fucking idiots". PC doesn't mean jack shit nowadays. Oh, you're butt hurt over me describing exactly what you are? It's as stupid as white people calling black people "African Americans".

 

2^nd Of all, we have to bring up the fact that could this be victim bashing? Whenever you call these people in a meeting "Dumb" is it not attacking their character, much less not taking into account that much of the general public, doesn't really quite know the risk to this. (Note: Yes Celebrities are part of the general public, at least in terms of tech. They are not part of the industry and it's doubtful that they know much about cyber security)

Yes and no, mainly because it's Apple's and the other services celebs were using faults and then it's also celeb's fault for uploading said photos to an online storage service and not thinking that "Hey, I'm rich and famous, there's millions of people who'd want to see me in personal acts, but I'll just have full nudes in an online storage database instead of a personal computer or something I can control, because I can't think that anything should go wrong!" Oh and "If I get hacked, I'll just blame Google and other websites for sharing my pictures instead of going after the service I was using to store the photos online instead, because again, I can't think!"

 

3^rd What does this mean for the future? If a major official is calling celebrities dumb over this incident, therefore some action must be taken. Could it be some sort of education program, or simplification of the long contracts that you click a "little bubble" to agree to without reading, saying that there is no guarantee that we can protect your privacy.

First of all, this is the EU commissioner, he has absolutely no control whatsoever of this situation. Having said that, he seems as if he would handle the situations fairly unlike the U.S. government that sends in the FBI over "celeb" nude leaks but doesn't when the average Joe's nudes leak.

 

Honestly we are all calling the celebs dumb, but just because this guy has some sort of "rank" he therefore can't give his honest and blatant opinion on the matter? And frankly, who the hell cares what he says about this, he has absolutely no control over any of this.

 

*Edit, just read the article over again and this comment stood out that's from the commissioner;

 

"If someone is dumb enough as a celebrity to take a nude photo of themselves and put it online, they surely can't expect us to protect them."

And this is exactly my point. The Internet/general public doesn't care about my nude photos, but nude photos of Jennifer Lawrence? Those will be found, eventually, and look what happened. If Jennifer Lawrence wasn't a celebrity, just an average Joe, no one would even care about her nude photos. No one.

[qwertywarrior]

If you have an internet connected phone don't have anything compromising on it . You don't have to upload it to make it susceptible to haxorz

Polaroids man

its where its at !

 

but seriously

Polaroid

http://www.polaroid.com/instant-cameras-and-film

[Si3Rra_7]

Polaroids man

its where its at !

 

but seriously

Polaroid

http://www.polaroid.com/instant-cameras-and-film

Yhea , thought of that . It's sexy as fuck to receive a polaroid 

[qwertywarrior]

Yhea , thought of that . It's sexy as fuck to receive a polaroid 

also u dont need filters

[Builder]

Of course this turns into victim bashing...of course it does.

[Mooshi]

Taking such personal images for your significant other isn't dumb, it's the medium that was dumb. Would you trust total strangers with your house keys? Of course you wouldn't, yet way too many people are trusting private things to paper thin security. Basic brute force was all it took to get these nudes. Had these images been stored locally instead of cloud storage, none of this would happen. 

 

Protip: REAL camera (not phone), memory card, a safe of some sort/nas box and encryption. Even if you aren't the most tech savvy person, the most tech illiterate can get the house key analogy. Cell phones these days are the most info leaking devices the average person has on their person. Good for finding a lost person, bad for protecting your private data.

 

Also enough with this "victim blaming" shit. Seriously. If *I* had taken nudes of myself and uploaded to a cloud service and had those broke into, it would be *my* fault and no one elses for not being more careful. Real adults know when to own up to something, not make pity excuses.

[Mooshi]

@EChondo This is probably the most damning thing and what upsets me the most.

 

 

First of all, this is the EU commissioner, he has absolutely no control whatsoever of this situation. Having said that, he seems as if he would handle the situations fairly unlike the U.S. government that sends in the FBI over "celeb" nude leaks but doesn't when the average Joe's nudes leak.

 

These celebs /chose/ to take these photos of themselves with a device known for leaving trails everywhere lit up in bright neon lights. They /chose/ to trust a cloud based storage instead of being smart with using local storage only. Abusing the FBI for famous titty while completely ignoring things that actually matter. I can't help but think of all the revenge porn being posted commonly on imageboards for people to fap over an ex BF or GF. Do these people get their government to help them. Hell no. The government's interest is so non existent it borderlines being a crime. Yet careless celebs, because they are famous, have people rushing to their aid and shoving everyone else aside. This isn't victim blaming, this is showcasing stupidity and lack of sympathy for others who aren't famous that wouldn't even get a tiny fraction of the same assistance given the same circumstances.

[LePawel]

1^st Off, can we call this politically correct? 

fuck political correctness.

[IdeaStormer]

I wouldn't call them dumb but idiot's really.

 

Hopefully this will teach the world, anything not in your personal possession under lock and key is not safe and basically public domain. I don't care how much a cloud company says they're safe or protected, they're not protected from the unknown hack yet to come out or a rouge employee.

[Pickle]

Politically correct? No. He's not wrong though, it's not smart to keep those picture on a device connected to the internet. They are celebrities and they obviously understand  that people will try to invade their privacy. It's wrong, but it will happen. No-one would ever go through that sort of trouble to see me naked, but I wouldn't keep pictures like that on my phone. I don't even take nude pictures.

[Builder]

I wouldn't call them dumb but idiot's really.

 

Hopefully this will teach the world, anything not in your personal possession under lock and key is not safe and basically public domain. I don't care how much a cloud company says they're safe or protected, they're not protected from the unknown hack yet to come out or a rouge employee.

I have to say I like you but the victim blaming makes me question your integrity... If a banker took nude photos out of your safe deposit box and publicized them would you blame the victim too?

[Norman_the_Owl]

I have to say I like you but the victim blaming makes me question your integrity... If a banker took nude photos out of your safe deposit box and publicized them would you blame the victim too?

If you upload something onto the internet it's not really safe.

 

It's not really their fault, but they can't be surprised it happened.

[Builder]

If you upload something onto the internet it's not really safe.

 

It's not really their fault, but they can't be surprised it happened.

But it's not a public database and what the hackers did was illegal. They broke the law. There's simply no reason to expect your data stored in a private server to be compromised. Honestly I'd rather have everyone here blaming Apple for it than the women effected by this because that would be more fair.

[Norman_the_Owl]

But it's not a public database and what the hackers did was illegal. They broke the law. There's simply no reason to expect your data stored in a private server to be compromised. Honestly I'd rather have everyone here blaming Apple for it than the women effected by this because that would be more fair.

There's really no such thing as a "Private server"

If it's connected to the internet, people can access it, and therefore hack it, theoretically.

 

And that the law was broken is irrelevant, and the fact that apple really isnt being blamed is because apple really isnt to blame.

 

If my memory serves these "Hackers" just used a program to spam the login with a load of random passwords until one was correct, so technically, they're not really hackers at all.

 

tl;dr its nobodies fault but the celebrities shouldn't be surprised

[IdeaStormer]

Polaroids man

its where its at !

 

but seriously

Polaroid

http://www.polaroid.com/instant-cameras-and-film

 

Yea! Polaroids, like no one can scan them and then post them on the internets :rolleyes:

 

Years ago photo developing stores/booth's employee's would get in trouble if they made duplicates of risque photo's customers took (aka nekid) then they would make it to risque magazines. Media or way it gets to the public have changed but it has happened for decades and will continue to happen, and as long as the people doing the sleazy dead get a reward it will continue to happen.

[Texhnlyze]

And he is right. Trusting devices to protect your private files is inane.

[Builder]

And that the law was broken is irrelevant, and the fact that apple really isnt being blamed is because apple really isnt to blame.

Yes but if it's anyones' fault it's theirs. Let me reiterate that I agree with you but I'd much rather see a corporation get blamed than innocent people who have done nothing wrong.