How do you feel about AT&T sponsoring LTT at CTIA

[mvitkun]

Considering how strongly Linus has spoken out about the preposterous practices of telecom companies, I feel like he'd be either unfair to us as consumers of his content by being a company posterboy, or unfair to his sponsors by lambasting them.

So just to clarify, you'd have preferred he did not take them on as a sponsor.

So you most closely align yourself with option 3 on the poll?

[Bensemus]

as long as Linus can still voice his unfiltered opinion about the company (not neccesarly in th same vid) I don't see any reason not to accept their money. Most of his audience is pretty well educated and won't be influenced with a few ads.

[Xorbot]

EDIT:Wow Checked who was viewing my content and saw " linusforsell, " I was sure some asshole made an account just now to troll forums after seeing AT&T was sponsoring, I then checked and he had 500 posts.....guess not.

 

I am pretty sure this user was mentioned by-name in past WAN show streams, has appeared in the Twitch chat, and possibly was present for @Slick unofficial afterparty streams (though that last one, I can't be too sure).

[mvitkun]

as long as Linus can still voice his unfiltered opinion about the company (not neccesarly in th same vid) I don't see any reason to accept their money. Most of his audience is pretty well educated and won't be influenced with a few ads.

you mean you don't see any reason NOT TO accept their money,right?

[Panda689]

Linus wouldn't buy out and lose his rep, it would just be, well bad

Like I said I trust linus but I don't like who he is associated with(AT&T). Its like me liking and trusting my friend (obviously), but not liking his GF cause she's a manipulative bitch .

[Jerakl]

Like I said I trust linus but I don't like who he is associated with(AT&T). Its like me liking and trusting my friend (obviously), but not liking his GF cause she's a manipulative bitch .

Makes sense.

[nixuv]

AT&T bad wibe, they have some behind they ear! And its not beer its Baaaad for you(AT&T). But ofc if you need $$$ go for it!

[DarkR3bel]

Honestly, if you believe Linus is selling out and that what he says will be influenced by AT&T, you're wrong. You need to watch the WAN Show that Linus did with Totalbiscuit AKA John Bain.
http://youtu.be/M6VsoncOTEg?t=30m11s

[mvitkun]

Like I said I trust linus but I don't like who he is associated with(AT&T). Its like me liking and trusting my friend (obviously), but not liking his GF cause she's a manipulative bitch .

She told me that she can't see me on weekends ever because her parents are super strict despite her being in college, I guess I'll have to trust her on that. (anybody catch that reference?)

[LinusTech]

Really appreciate everyone's feedback in here so far, and I want to provide some clarifying information about the deal so that you don't feel like we've got anything to hide

 

The deal has the usual time-limited non-disparagement clause (end of September in this case). That DOESN'T mean on WAN show we can't report on something like AT&T's comments that 4Mbit is enough for broadband

 

We do need to cover some specific AT&T stuff at the show including the connected home and connected car showcases

 

We are not prevented in any way from covering OTHER stuff at the show

 

ATT has asked to review our videos before they go live to ensure the ATT messaging (thanking them at the beginning and end) is correct, which since we pre-recorded half of it (the pre-roll) it damn well better be.

 

Beyond the show, we have no plans to work with AT&T and if you guys prefer that we keep it that way, this thread is where to let your voice be heard.

 

Linus

[Panda689]

She told me that she can't see me on weekends ever because her parents are super strict despite her being in college, I guess I'll have to trust her on that. (anybody catch that reference?)

all i heard was woosh

[attrapp]

Now that LTT is more of a review channel and less about unboxing, I think it is a bad thing for your credibility to put your name next to a product that you have very little experience with day-to-day when you don't live in the US. As an example, you are always adamant with phone manufacturers that you need to fully switch to their device for a long period of time to do a proper review, and I feel you have betrayed that sentiment.

[drhaxx]

Really appreciate everyone's feedback in here so far, and I want to provide some clarifying information about the deal so that you don't feel like we've got anything to hide

 

The deal has the usual time-limited non-disparagement clause (end of September in this case). That DOESN'T mean on WAN show we can't report on something like AT&T's comments that 4Mbit is enough for broadband

 

We do need to cover some specific AT&T stuff at the show including the connected home and connected car showcases

 

We are not prevented in any way from covering OTHER stuff at the show

 

ATT has asked to review our videos before they go live to ensure the ATT messaging (thanking them at the beginning and end) is correct, which since we pre-recorded half of it (the pre-roll) it damn well better be.

 

Beyond the show, we have no plans to work with AT&T and if you guys prefer that we keep it that way, this thread is where to let your voice be heard.

 

Linus

 

If it's just a little mention here and there then I don't really have a problem with it. Thanks for the clarification.

[mvitkun]

Honestly, if you believe Linus is selling out and that what he says will be influenced by AT&T, you're wrong. You need to watch the WAN Show that Linus did with Totalbiscuit AKA John Bain.

http://youtu.be/M6VsoncOTEg?t=30m11s

Like I said I don't think he's selling out, I actually really liked that WAN show BTW total biscuit is a great guest and contributes a lot of knowledge to the conversation.

[reidhasguitar]

Really appreciate everyone's feedback in here so far, and I want to provide some clarifying information about the deal so that you don't feel like we've got anything to hide

 

The deal has the usual time-limited non-disparagement clause (end of September in this case). That DOESN'T mean on WAN show we can't report on something like AT&T's comments that 4Mbit is enough for broadband

 

We do need to cover some specific AT&T stuff at the show including the connected home and connected car showcases

 

We are not prevented in any way from covering OTHER stuff at the show

 

ATT has asked to review our videos before they go live to ensure the ATT messaging (thanking them at the beginning and end) is correct, which since we pre-recorded half of it (the pre-roll) it damn well better be.

 

Beyond the show, we have no plans to work with AT&T and if you guys prefer that we keep it that way, this thread is where to let your voice be heard.

 

Linus

Another thing I'm worried about is that if you accept the sponsorship, and then AT&T do something horrendous and you report on it, that other potential sponsors might shy away from sponsoring you because it will look like you're shitting on your sponsors.

 

But like I said before, I'm not the one making a living here.

[Syntaxvgm]

Really appreciate everyone's feedback in here so far, and I want to provide some clarifying information about the deal so that you don't feel like we've got anything to hide

 

The deal has the usual time-limited non-disparagement clause (end of September in this case). That DOESN'T mean on WAN show we can't report on something like AT&T's comments that 4Mbit is enough for broadband

 

We do need to cover some specific AT&T stuff at the show including the connected home and connected car showcases

 

We are not prevented in any way from covering OTHER stuff at the show

 

ATT has asked to review our videos before they go live to ensure the ATT messaging (thanking them at the beginning and end) is correct, which since we pre-recorded half of it (the pre-roll) it damn well better be.

 

Beyond the show, we have no plans to work with AT&T and if you guys prefer that we keep it that way, this thread is where to let your voice be heard.

 

Linus

Well it's all about how you handle it. I mean I can't argue the existence of a non-disparagement clause. you can't have 

"Brought to you by AT&T"

"Which is fucking shite by the way"

and expect them to pay you. 

 

Personally I think it'll be handled just fine. But such a big telecom name on this topic really worries all of us. 

[DarkR3bel]

Like I said I don't think he's selling out, I actually really liked that WAN show BTW total biscuit is a great guest and contributes a lot of knowledge to the conversation.

I know you don't think he's selling out, just pointing this out to those who do.

[drhaxx]

Well it's all about how you handle it. I mean I can't argue the existence of a non-disparagement clause. you can't have 

"Brought to you by AT&T"

"Which is fucking shite by the way"

and expect them to pay you. 

 

Personally I think it'll be handled just fine. But such a big telecom name on this topic really worries all of us. 

 

That's what I'm thinking, but, as you said, if he handles it well enough then I don't think they'll be dissatisfied with Linus endorsing them (aside from what the viewers might think, but that's a different story).

[kemical]

Linus need to eat he will take what ever comes... As long as he stays neutral we don't care... If u mad then u shud try sponsoring them

[mvitkun]

Beyond the show, we have no plans to work with AT&T and if you guys prefer that we keep it that way, this thread is where to let your voice be heard.

I hope you don't mind but I added your post to the OP for the sake of anybody viewing this thread for the first time.

[Knonf]

The deal has the usual time-limited non-disparagement clause (end of September in this case). 

 

Do a rant video when the non-disparagement clause is over

[helping]

Can we have a brief youtube video show up before people make polls on this site?

 

I can count on my fingers the amount of times I've seen a correctly done poll.

 

This already looks polarized (ba-dum tss) by having two practically "yes" options and a "no, lolkek" option

 

why does nobody know how to make a poll ffs

all this is short of is a potato option and it's a typical poll I find here, next to useless.

[step1041]

I'm a conflicted about my opinion on this issue. 

 

On one side, Linus Media Group does need to make money and this is one method of doing so. Although, this is just a trip sponsor, so this may only cover Luke and Brandon's travel expenses at the show which may not have an effect on how Linus Media Group makes money. 

 

On the other side, Linus has been openly against net neutrality in the past, and is now being funded by a company that supports it, which seems wrong to me. 

 

I don't think Linus is a sellout, that's an awful term when it comes to Youtube content creation today. However, I think he should have either found another sponsor, or not gone to the show at all. I haven't had a problem with past sponsorships, they have all been great so far, but I don't feel like Linus can give his approval of this sponsor like he can the other ones and that is what I have a problem with.

 

I do hope that made some sense.

[Yoinkerman]

That's correct.  I did vote for #3.  I feel like taking gifts/money/sponsorships or w/e necessarily biases content(which isn't always a bad thing), which I feel like is a bad thing if it's AT&T

 

So just to clarify, you'd have preferred he did not take them on as a sponsor.

So you most closely align yourself with option 3 on the poll?

[mvitkun]

Can we have a brief youtube video show up before people make polls on this site?

I can count on my fingers the amount of times I've seen a correctly done poll.

This already looks polarized (ba-dum tss) by having two practically "yes" options and a "no, lolkek" option

why does nobody know how to make a poll ffs

It has a 

"I trust LTT to give us content that represents products and services correctly and fairly to the best of LTT's ability, despite any problems I might have with AT&T sponsoring the show" option.

"I trust LTT to give us content that represents products and services correctly and fairly to the best of LTT's ability, and I see no problems with AT&T sponsoring the show" option.

and a 

"I do not believe the content that will be shown will represent all products and services at CTIA correctly and fairly to the best of LTT's ability due to the AT&T sponsorship" option.

 

I feel I expressed all valid choices.