Seagate 8TB & 10TB HDDs

[Admiaczking]

I Can fill up the 10tb drive with a lot off por...10tb is a lot of space.

i could fill up the 10 TB drive with a lot of hentai

[terrytek]

that is like the exact same thing i have. except i have 750 gb. and only 600 gb left. i have a lot of apps i never use. i used to have that less though

LOL, This is my issue.

[bamerx98]

I've only got half my steam games downloaded , I sort of need more drive space 

[Askew]

How they keep fitting more into a 3.5'' enclosure is just pure witchcraft at this point.

[Guest]

How they keep fitting more into a 3.5'' enclosure is just pure witchcraft at this point.

 

The fact that we'll probably get 4TB, 8TB and 16TB SSDs with a 2.5'' formfactor, now that's witchcraft. Or the 128GB microSD cards from sandisk, absolutely ridiculous.

[Askew]

The fact that we'll probably get 4TB, 8TB and 16TB SSDs with a 2.5'' formfactor, now that's witchcraft. Or the 128GB microSD cards from sandisk, absolutely ridiculous.

 

MicroSD has been witchcraft from the go, I can't even write a word on my fingernail. :lol:

[IdeaStormer]

Could use 10tb pretty easily and i dont understand why people are saying the failure rate blah blah there not going to sell a product with that bad of a failure rate they cant afford too! stop freaking out jeez.

 

They've been saying that for a decade, we hit 250gigs "Oh my ghod way too much data if we lose it all hell will break out!", then 500gigs (same thing), 750 gigs (people's heads were exploding), 1TB (mass hysteria), 1.5TB (not much worry because they were always failing    ), 2TB..., 3TB..., 4TB..., 5TB..., 6TB..., people just like to complain or can't wrap their heads around quantities they themselves have not envisioned/used. I for one think 10TB is not so bad or large, once you hit petabyte TB is not so big. Multiple PB's and it gets to be less of an issue or concern, data is data.

[mr moose]

They've been saying that for a decade, we hit 250gigs "Oh my ghod way too much data if we lose it all hell will break out!", then 500gigs (same thing), 750 gigs (people's heads were exploding), 1TB (mass hysteria), 1.5TB (not much worry because they were always failing    ), 2TB..., 3TB..., 4TB..., 5TB..., 6TB..., people just like to complain or can't wrap their heads around quantities they themselves have not envisioned/used. I for one think 10TB is not so bad or large, once you hit petabyte TB is not so big. Multiple PB's and it gets to be less of an issue or concern, data is data.

 

10Tb is nothing if it dies and you have all the original cd's, dvd's, but if you fill a 10Tb hdd with downloaded content and the drive fails (because they do 1/100 and we have all experienced  hdd failure at some point) then you have to download that 10Tb again, where as if you split that 10 over 3x 3Tb or 5x 2Tb drives then if one fails you have significantly less to download.

 

This may not be a problem for those with 100Mb optic internet connections but for those of us with 15Mb dsl that's months of downloading again.

 

So in short one or two might think bigger = higher failure rate, But I think most are more concerned with just having all their eggs in one basket.

[IdeaStormer]

10Tb is nothing if it dies and you have all the original cd's, dvd's, but if you fill a 10Tb hdd with downloaded content and the drive fails (because they do 1/100 and we have all experienced  hdd failure at some point) then you have to download that 10Tb again, where as if you split that 10 over 3x 3Tb or 5x 2Tb drives then if one fails you have significantly less to download.

 

This may not be a problem for those with 100Mb optic internet connections but for those of us with 15Mb dsl that's months of downloading again.

 

So in short one or two might think bigger = higher failure rate, But I think most are more concerned with just having all their eggs in one basket.

 

What happens if a 80 GB drive dies (with no backup) and it had all the keys to all your encrypted data? Same thing. A single copy of valuable data is as bad in either scenario, there is no solution to losing data unless you have multiple copies (aka backups). If you start to acquire important data you can not live without then its time to back your data up as many times as you can afford to back it up. If you don't back it up its worthless and bound to be loss anyway. CD's go bad as well, so don't count those as your master copy, for long.

[mr moose]

What happens if a 80 GB drive dies (with no backup) and it had all the keys to all your encrypted data? Same thing. A single copy of valuable data is as bad in either scenario, there is no solution to losing data unless you have multiple copies (aka backups). If you start to acquire important data you can not live without then its time to back your data up as many times as you can afford to back it up. If you don't back it up its worthless and bound to be loss anyway. CD's go bad as well, so don't count those as your master copy, for long.

If an 80 gig drive fails you only have to re-download 80gig of games, movies what ever programs you had installed.  Personal data should always be backed up, that's a no brainer, I am talking purely about the stuff you don't need to backup because technically you already have a backup by way of the original discs, cloud storage or they are on a game service like steam.  Most home users can't afford to have duplicates hard drives for everything so they only backup what they cant retrieve in a failure situation (poor mans redundancy).  thus 2 4TB drives is easier to recover from than 1 8TB in the even of a drive failure.

[NannerBeans]

I'd love to stuff 1 of these in my ncase. It's supposed to support 3 drives but with things crammed in there, I could only get 1 in.

[IdeaStormer]

If an 80 gig drive fails you only have to re-download 80gig of games, movies what ever programs you had installed.  Personal data should always be backed up, that's a no brainer, I am talking purely about the stuff you don't need to backup because technically you already have a backup by way of the original discs, cloud storage or they are on a game service like steam.  Most home users can't afford to have duplicates hard drives for everything so they only backup what they cant retrieve in a failure situation (poor mans redundancy).  thus 2 4TB drives is easier to recover from than 1 8TB in the even of a drive failure.

 

If all your data is downloadable why not just stream it to a cache drive and never deal with large storage?

 

Anyone who can't afford to duplicate important data basically has no business complaining when they lose data. Its not important if its not backed up or they have gone full retard.

[AstroZombie1]

LOL, This is my issue.

Your seagate back-up drive is very shocked I can't un-see it now. 

[mr moose]

If all your data is downloadable why not just stream it to a cache drive and never deal with large storage?

 

Anyone who can't afford to duplicate important data basically has no business complaining when they lose data. Its not important if its not backed up or they have gone full retard.

 

It's not important data that's the issue.  Are you suggesting that everyone should have a complete backup of all their program installs? I am talking about data in the form of program installations and movies download from the net. Stuff that is not irreplaceable, but a pain in the arse to replace if you had to replace all of it at once.

 

The personal data content of my drives (emails, games saves, documents etc) only make up a small portion of my storage needs and I have that backed up in several places.

[IdeaStormer]

It's not important data that's the issue.  Are you suggesting that everyone should have a complete backup of all their program installs? I am talking about data in the form of program installations and movies download from the net. Stuff that is not irreplaceable, but a pain in the arse to replace if you had to replace all of it at once.

 

The personal data content of my drives (emails, games saves, documents etc) only make up a small portion of my storage needs and I have that backed up in several places.

 

I've only said important data, I have yet to write the word program (till just now), where'd you get that?

[mr moose]

 I have yet to write the word program (till just now), where'd you get that?

 

I Don't understand, what word program?

[Silent_Xaxal]

If this means higher capacity hybrids, then I'm all for it.

 

As for these drives, well, I have a hard drive bay waiting for use.

[cubercaleb]

What are you people doing to fill all this space?

I can't even fill a 1TB drive and that is including all my music (in FLAC, no less) & games.

Are you really just downloading all the porn on the internet and if so, why? You can always get it again later (same with movies and TV btw).

A 45-60min FLAC album is about 1GB, full, lossless Blue-ray rips are around 25-50GB, games are anywhere from 1-20GB usually, and TV shows tend to be 1-10GB per season depending on several factors. That crap adds up after a while, which means that having 8TB hard drives is amazing. A 24 drive RAID 60 setup would produce 148.96TB once you factor in drive capacity loss (notice a 1TB drive is actually 931GB) which still isn't enough for some people. 10TB drives with the same setup would produce 223.41TB of storage, or around 9000 25GB Blue-ray movies

 

Every day it feels like we get closer and closer to the Petabyte... 

[cubercaleb]

If all your data is downloadable why not just stream it to a cache drive and never deal with large storage?

 

Anyone who can't afford to duplicate important data basically has no business complaining when they lose data. Its not important if its not backed up or they have gone full retard.

Yeah, I'm not torrenting several terabytes of poorly seeded tv shows, pr0n, movies, music, and going through the task of finding all those torrent files. nor am I willing to burn all my physical cd's, bluerays, and movies/tv shows because that would take forever to have to insert everything one disc at a time. I also like my stuff in the highest quality possible, itunes, google play, netflix, and amazon simply don't offer lossless streaming of video and music content, and yes I can tell the difference between mp3 and flac, and the difference between a "1080p" mp4 movie stream and a blu-ray ripped movie with full color depth, resolution, frame rate, and lossless audio. 

[AxelRantila]

Hopefully, some of this stuff can one day make it's way to consumer-grade HDDs as well (although it's way more than I need. But rather to much than to little storage)

[TAK]

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[cubercaleb]

You know there is this button called "delete"? I use it for everything, except music, once I'm done. If I wanna see something again, I either have it as a DVD or can download it again. Keeping shit is so 00's.

Yes, but the idea of a home server is to be able to stream the content across all your devices within the network, if I want to watch batman on my tablet i load up the server nas file access and find it to play. Besides, im not deleting my videos of a certain variety because most of them are only available on the internet, are niche, and have little to no seeders

[gatecrasherlok]

What the hell man? I can barelly fill up 1.5TB on my 2TB drive

 Some blu ray quality movies would sort that problem out for you mate. I guess these 8/10 tb drives are here for 4k movies when they do eventually arrive.

[ahhming]

Seagate is now shipping the drive

8TB for just $260!!!

 

Source:

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/195543-seagates-first-shingled-hard-drives-now-shipping-8tb-for-just-260

 

http://www.seagate.com/sg/en/products/enterprise-servers-storage/nearline-storage/archive-hdd/#features

[Psykomantis00]

Am I the only one concerned with holding so much data on one disc, I would much rather 5x 2Tb drives than one 10Tb for home use and how long would it take the average array to rebuild a 10Tb drive should it fail?

2x 10tb drives. Raid 1. Done.