7900 GRE to launch globally on Feb 27th for $549

[filpo]

Summary

AMD have officially announced a global release of the 7900 GRE on Feb 27th, launching for $549

 

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Info and aim

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AMD RX 7900 GRE will no longer be limited to the Chinese DIY market. The company has decided to bring its cheaper Navi 31-based on model to compete with RTX 4070 on a global market. The new launch date is confirmed through slides that we obtained recently.

 

Officially, the RX 7900 GRE will target GeForce RTX 4070 non-SUPER, which received a $50 price cut to $549 last month when NVIDIA brought their SUPER variant to the market. The AMD card has more memory and should perform 1% to 32% faster across all listed games, claims the company. On average, it should deliver 14% more FPS per dollar, as both cards are priced at the same level.

AIB models

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Spec comparison (7900 XT, 7900 GRE and 7800 XT)

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The RX 7900 GRE will slide between RX 7900 XT and 7800 XT in the AMD desktop RDNA3 line-up, both models currently retail at $699 and $489 (lowest prices on the US market) respectively. The RX 7900 GRE's biggest weakness is limited 260W board
power, a known bottleneck that puts it closer to the RX 7800XT despite featuring over 33% more cores.

 

My thoughts

To me, it's a W from AMD. That launch price wasn't the best but now it seems like a decent option. 7800 XT still seems like the best value but at least we've got a better competitor to the 4070 SUPER (7800 XT was about in line with the 4070 SUPER performance but now the 7900 GRE should be better than it, even though the official competitor of price is the 4070)

 

Sources

AMD Radeon RX 7900 GRE to launch globally on February 27th at $549 - VideoCardz.com

Edited February 25 by filpo

[jaslion]

Oh hey that is pretty neat. Fills up a current price gap the 6950xt left behind nicely

[WereCat]

Found it for 622eur in multiple e-shops in Slovakia but this one has it for 500eur (in stock)... though they say they are not a tax payers so no idea if that is with the 20% VAT included.

By law they should only list prices with VAT included and if not, they are supposed to at least state the price does not include tax. Still, that would be 600eur. Cheapest RX 7900 XT I could find is starting at 765eur so this is still a significant discount from it.

 

 

For reference (cheapest listed, not in stock) RTX 4070 starts at 560eur and RTX 4070 Super at eye watering 645eur.

 

 

EDIT:

 

Man, seems like the nerfed memory bandwidth really hurts this card vs 7900 XT. To be fair this is from a 6 month old review so the performance may have improved with drivers but I wouldn't really bet on it.

 

[will0hlep]

37 minutes ago, filpo said:

To me, it's a W from AMD.

Seems like a win for gamers too

[Salted Spinach]

Competes with 4070 Super and 4070ti at lower MSRP and has 16GB of VRAM

 

Competition good

[RejZoR]

14 hours ago, WereCat said:

Found it for 622eur in multiple e-shops in Slovakia but this one has it for 500eur (in stock)... though they say they are not a tax payers so no idea if that is with the 20% VAT included.

By law they should only list prices with VAT included and if not, they are supposed to at least state the price does not include tax. Still, that would be 600eur. Cheapest RX 7900 XT I could find is starting at 765eur so this is still a significant discount from it.

 

 

For reference (cheapest listed, not in stock) RTX 4070 starts at 560eur and RTX 4070 Super at eye watering 645eur.

 

 

EDIT:

 

Man, seems like the nerfed memory bandwidth really hurts this card vs 7900 XT. To be fair this is from a 6 month old review so the performance may have improved with drivers but I wouldn't really bet on it.

 

That's without VAT. If you slap 20% on top, it's 610€. Basically, the way to get EU prices is to take MSRP price in USD, directly convert it into € and just add whatever VAT you have in your country.

[Doobeedoo]

Cool though. But as always EU prices just makes everything look bad. I managed to grab XTX for decent price before at least.

[filpo]

Hey all. Some reviewers have gotten the AIB 7900 GRE's (such as our good friends over on techpowerup) and gotten to review them. Here are the temp and OC metrics as well as links 

Sapphire pulse temps:

Here's how they OC'd it

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Overclocking the Radeon RX 7900 GRE is very similar to the other RX 7900 Series cards.

• To start, you have to raise the power limit to maximum, the slider ends at +15%
• Next, max out the memory clock slider, it's rather short, topping out at 2316 MHz, definitely not high enough to use the full potential of the memory chips.
• Now, also increase "Max Frequency" to maximum, which is at 2803 MHz, not much higher than the default of 2530 MHz, another artificial limitation
• At this point run a first stability test and record performance.
• Now gradually lower the maximum voltage (default is 1.05 V), until your card becomes unstable, which happened for me at 0.89 V to 1.02 V, depending on the card.
• Increasing the Min Frequency slider made no significant difference in performance. This might increase power consumption though for very little actual FPS improvement.

Sapphire Pulse OC results:

Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 GRE Pure Review | TechPowerUp

ASRock Radeon RX 7900 GRE Steel Legend Review | TechPowerUp

Sapphire RX 7900 GRE Nitro+ Review | TechPowerUp

Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 GRE Pulse Review | TechPowerUp

 

OC performance looks quite good overall and on these AIB models, I think this looks like a good addition to the card roundup

The Nitro+ doesn't do much better when manually OC'd but it's stock performance seems to be a bit better than the Sapphire

 

The Pulse seems to be the best option as it also has the lowest power consumption when OC'd, temps between them aren't indifferent. I'll make an update post tomorrow when it's released and prices of the AIB models 

Finally, temps on steel legend from asrock seem to be spectacular

Edited February 26 by filpo

[Mark Kaine]

from everything im reading this performs like a 6000 class card, so why are people excited? 

 

(same performing card can be had for ~400 apparently lol)

[porina]

51 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

from everything im reading this performs like a 6000 class card, so why are people excited? 

 

(same performing card can be had for ~400 apparently lol)

Rather than those vague statements, which card(s) specifically?

 

Looking at TechPowerUp they place it marginally ahead of 4070S raster, obviously falling back in RT. If it is any value will depend on street pricing once it is widely available.

[Middcore]

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performs like a 6000 class card

 

 

It outperforms any 6000 series card, according to this. At worst it's basically a 6950 XT and the 6950 XT is now essentially extinct in the new market (as all of the 6000 series cards soon will be). 

 

It's trading blows with the 4070 Super at a slightly lower price (in theory, we will see what retailers actually sell it for).

 

It's not a set-the-world-on-fire value proposition but it seems like a worthwhile release. 

 

 

[Mark Kaine]

3 hours ago, porina said:

Rather than those vague statements, which card(s) specifically?

 

Looking at TechPowerUp they place it marginally ahead of 4070S raster, obviously falling back in RT. If it is any value will depend on street pricing once it is widely available.

 

kinda funny you're using techpowerup (too) which by no means is a reliable source tbh..

 

 

the tldr is: "it cant keep up"

 

i read this and similar statements everywhere,  reddit, etc, most people compared it to a 6800, which seems honestly realistic to me.

 

im not saying its a bad card, but i think my statement was pretty much spot on, its comparable to a 6000 card, so this just makes it kinda unexciting and overpriced. 

 

i looked,  6800 can be had for 400, new for example. 

 

 

 

 

 

[porina]

6 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

kinda funny you're using techpowerup (too) which by no means is a reliable source tbh..

You're linking to an old news piece where they reported on someone else's testing last July when GRE was still China only.

 

Try looking at the actual testing from today.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-7900-gre-pulse/

 

I personally find them the best written GPU review site currently. They don't come up with silly conclusions like some strangely popular tubers.

 

6 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

i read this and similar statements everywhere,  reddit, etc, most people compared it to a 6800, which seems honestly realistic to me.

 

im not saying its a bad card, but i think my statement was pretty much spot on, its comparable to a 6000 card, so this just makes it kinda unexciting and overpriced. 

I don't know nor care where you're looking but it seems way off. TechPowerUp puts the 6800 (not XT) 24% behind at 1080p and 25% behind at 4k, in raster.

 

There's a screenshot of a 4k result from Hardware Unboxed earlier too. I don't like their narrative but their testing is ok. There the 6800 is 19.5% slower. Differences may be due to specific model tested, game mix and/or settings.

 

Absent proof otherwise, doesn't look like 6800 is at all comparable to the 7900 GRE in performance.

[Mark Kaine]

11 minutes ago, porina said:

There the 6800 is 19.5% slower. Differences may be due to specific model tested, game mix and/or settings.

these yt "reviewers" are highly biased and usually handpick their results... so 19.5%. woo. in real life terms this probably means more like 10%, which is exactly what i was going for from the get go, this is a mislabeled 6000 class card.

 

11 minutes ago, porina said:

Differences may be due to specific model tested, game mix and/or settings.

the sad thing is some people are probably forced to get this,  because they can't get the cheaper alternatives (again ive looked,  some 6800 cost over 700 bucks, which makes this "7900" look good, its still really pretty bad value imho)

 

11 minutes ago, porina said:

I don't know nor care where you're looking

oh ok, likewise,  but its still a discussion board and i still don't really know why people are excited when , at least in theory,  there should be better valued alternatives. 

[porina]

20 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

these yt "reviewers" are highly biased and usually handpick their results... so 19.5%. woo. in real life terms this probably means more like 10%, which is exactly what i was going for from the get go, this is a mislabeled 6000 class card.

HUB was a 15 game average. TechPowerUp is a 25 game average. This isn't picking one game to give a specific story.

 

Also your usage of "6000 class". It isn't a class, it's a generation.

[Middcore]

If you don't consider TechPowerUp reliable, that says more about you than them. 

 

It's 7000-series architecture generation (Navi 31), faster than any "6000 class" (generation) card (at worst tied with the 6950 XT which basically you can't buy now), and faster than half of the 7000 series lineup as well. 

 

Calling it a "mislabeled 6000 class card" is nonsensical and obtuse. 

[starsmine]

2 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

these yt "reviewers" are highly biased and usually handpick their results... so 19.5%. woo. in real life terms this probably means more like 10%, which is exactly what i was going for from the get go, this is a mislabeled 6000 class card.

 

the sad thing is some people are probably forced to get this,  because they can't get the cheaper alternatives (again ive looked,  some 6800 cost over 700 bucks, which makes this "7900" look good, its still really pretty bad value imho)

 

oh ok, likewise,  but its still a discussion board and i still don't really know why people are excited when , at least in theory,  there should be better valued alternatives. 

Is this better for you?



Im confused what you dont like about it. It costs between a 7800XT and 7900XT, and performs between the two. and costs less then 4070 super, while consistently outperforms the 4070 super. 

That there are some 6000 cards out there at deep deep discounts (Aka not MSRP) that are better value does not mater much. Its RDNA 3, its not a mislabled 6000 card, its completly RDNA 3 in everything it is. 

When RDNA4 is out, Most of the RDNA3 line will be on deep discount, and Im sure you will say the same thing then (if we even get 8900, big RDNA 4 may not come out)

[Salted Spinach]

For pure raster performance we now have the equivalent of a 4070 Super but at $550 and will age better with more VRAM

 

Not groundbreaking but people looking to upgrade now have more choice.

 

For some reason a 3070 owner is unhappy about it

[porina]

Looking at in stock pricing from one major UK retailer now. Cheapest 7900 GRE is priced near enough at 4070 levels, while performing like 4070S in raster. It's just over a 10% cost gap between the 4070's so to me the GRE is merely ok. It doesn't really change the story much between red and green. Red appears to give value for raster and/or VRAM quantity trading off the additional features from green.