Madison reveals experiences working at LMG

[Cooldoe]

5 minutes ago, HenrySalayne said:

This is not how it works. A salary is counterintuitively not paid for success but the time spent working. You will always have higher and lower performing employees. That's why in sales you will commonly find low salaries and commission for sales.

If an employee is lollygagging or spends their time surfing the web instead of acquiring customers, than it's a violation of duty which can lead to an warning letter. If said employee is just very slow doing their tasks, the employer can do very little. That's why you have probation and low entry salaries, so the employee and the employer can validate the job and job performance respectively.

 

In Sales you have a minimum target and commission target.

If you cannot hit your minimum target you are literally costing your company money as your salary directly related to the minimum target you must hit.

This is disclosed before you accept the job.

[Cooldoe]

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I think I already clearly state my arguments that madison can be confidently wrong and your statement that colin and taran corroborate there are sexual abuse is a stretch.

Because both of them specifically said they did not see it happen

[Thepyrodex]

40 minutes ago, ArcVult said:

 

I read your word.  You said them or are you saying you did not say those words?

did you not make ad hominem attacks against someone?
 

And why are you so mad?  Your angry won’t change anything so why be mad?

[Stahlmann]

Funny how quickly the sentiment can change from "Trust me bro!" to "Why should i trust you bro?". It'll be interesting to see if anything comes of these allegations. It's kind of funny how LTT took it upon themself to "light fires" at several other ignorant or stagnant companies and now suddenly they have their own fire to extinguish.

 

I don't know if i believe everything that Madison is talking about, but i believe one thing: Working at a media company is extremely stressful. Stressful enough that this alone is probably reason enough why quite a few people search for a way out. A few of the Intel Extreme Tech upgrades were exactly that: A final financial boost to get the equipment to leave the company.

[Giganthrax]

I'm aware that this dead horse has probably been beaten up already in this thread, but I still gotta give my 2 cents.

 

Madison's allegations are very sus. Companies with gigantic workloads and toxic cultures like she's describing tend to have high employee turnover rates (I've seen it quite a few times), for obvious reasons. And yet LMG has a ton of loyal faces who have been there for years? It just doesn't add up.

 

She also deliberately injured herself to get some days off work? WTF is she, a soldier in Vietnam? It's just a job and you're living in a 1st world country, just take your frickin sick days like a normal person. The other allegations sound like she's just throwing shit at the wall to see sticks. Provide proof or GTFO.

[ReallyThough]

This is kinda related to other threads, but I didn't really see anyone talking about it in those.

This morning while reading the news I noticed that the LMG controversy in an article from the CBC!

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/linus-tech-tips-youtube-controversy-1.6940087

 

I was very surprised that this was national news worthy.

 

At the same time I noticed an email from a friend I hadn't corresponded to in a few years.

 

They basically sent me a few links (GN videos, Reddit posts etc) and had a list of LMG past sponsors and contact emails/numbers and asked that I join them in contacting these entities.

In the hopes of enough pressure to get them to stop sponsoring LMG.

 

This is.....shocking to say the least and another example cancel culture. This might be the beginning of the end for LMG to be honest, not sure how they could survive without their sponsors. Maybe let a bunch of people go and scale back again? Give up on (very expensive) Labs?? (What GN apparently would love).

 

 

This was only a handful of people in my personal circle, but the fact that these people who never watch LTT content, are willing to participate in this is disturbing.

 

Good luck LMG, hopefully you weather this storm.

Oh and if Madison's accusations turn out to be true, I hope those involved get fired. And if they turn out to be not true/exaggerated/taken out of context, I hope she gets sued.

[Beerzerker]

If there is any substance (Fact) to the accusations then it's really not a case of "Cancer Culture" doing it's thing, instead it would be well deserved so the thing about that would be negated in that case.

If not then yes, it's a case of "Cancer Culture" doing what it does worst as expected of it.

We don't know all the facts, only what each side has said publicly about it and acting purely on these accusations instead of facts would be wrong to do.
There is no one here that "Knows" what "The Facts" are unless they were part of/directly involved in said "Incidents" that ATM are alleged.
Note "Alleged" (He said, she said) is the reality of it ATM.

To discover what the real deal is..... That's a job for investigators, lawyers and courts to uncover - Which as big as this has blown up to be, we will know something as fact sooner or later.

Just grab a bucket of popcorn and wait for the "Real" show to start instead of trashing each other in the thread.... Please.

It's not like any of you were involved to go after each other.....
Or were you?

[Mertrodome]

40 minutes ago, Giganthrax said:

 

Companies with gigantic workloads and toxic cultures like she's describing tend to have high employee turnover rates (I've seen it quite a few times), for obvious reasons. And yet LMG has a ton of loyal faces who have been there for years?

To be fair, we don't actually know what their turnover rate is. New hires aren't allowed to be on camera at least until they've passed probation, and even then some rarely, if ever, appear.

Think about it - out of 120 employees currently, how many can you name without looking them up? It's not a ton.

I'm not suggesting they do have high turnover necessarily, or low turnover either. I'm just saying we probably can't draw any useful conclusions from the handful of people we see regularly on camera.

[Giganthrax]

3 minutes ago, Mertrodome said:

To be fair, we don't actually know what their turnover rate is. New hires aren't allowed to be on camera at least until they've passed probation, and even then some rarely, if ever, appear.

Think about it - out of 120 employees currently, how many can you name without looking them up? It's not a ton.

I'm not suggesting they do have high turnover necessarily, or low turnover either. I'm just saying we probably can't draw any useful conclusions from the handful of people we see regularly on camera.

Fair enough.

 

That being said, LMG has been around for a long time now. If they had very high employee turnover rates due to overwork, we probably would've heard something about it by now. Not saying it can't be true, just that the allegations are really sus. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

[creat0r]

1 hour ago, Giganthrax said:

LMG has a ton of loyal faces who have been there for years

Not to argue against you, but how many female faces has been there for many years besides Yvonne and Sarah? Even if it's a few more, the percentage of women with long careers in LMG is probably not a lot.

[Lomac]

6 hours ago, ArcVult said:

Hinging the validity of madisons statements on an "internal investigation" or an investigation run by a group *chosen and paid for by LTT* is just sad. If LTT was willing to brush this under the rug for so long (along with what GN revealed), do you really think they wouldn't just pay off an investigator and lie to protect their public image? Liers have inconsistencies in their story and their stories will change from moment to moment. This means she is *LIKELY* not lying.. assuming she is "confidently lying" with 0 reasons behind it is just grasping at straws.

Third party auditors rely on their ability to be honest and thorough. If word gets out that they're willing to be paid to give a specific finding, their reputation sinks and no one will hire them. There are only a handful of companies here in the Vancouver area that does this sort of investigation and everyone knows everyone else in the industry. It would become its own little scandal here if that happens here. It would be a pretty safe bet that an audit will be done properly. Whether that report is publicly released is another matter, since it might fall under legal and HR matters that can't be given to the masses due to privacy laws. LMG might release a highly sanitized summary to avoid any legal hurdles but, from the audits I've seen, even that isn't a given.

 

My work goes through multiple audits every year - accounting, inventory, HR & ER, safety, and more. Both governmental (ie: WorksafeBC) and private companies (think KPMG but other companies instead.) These are done regardless of if there's an incident or not. We're a private company so it's not like we have shareholders to placate. These are done to ensure everything is in the up-and-up legally speaking, and to help with insurance. I know my team is always honest with any issues that pop up and shares that info with the auditors.

[ToboRobot]

6 hours ago, ArcVult said:

 or an investigation run by a group *chosen and paid for by LTT* is just sad.

You think a third party investigator will be a fan of Linus and will side with LTT, or do you think the investigator is paid by LMG for a positive spin on the investigation?

This assumes the 3rd party is willing to forego their professional reputation for this. 

Yeah, lots of professionals and companies will work for some YouTuber and risk their professional career and business reputation in a high profile case. 

 

[wanderingfool2]

2 hours ago, Giganthrax said:

She also deliberately injured herself to get some days off work? WTF is she, a soldier in Vietnam? It's just a job and you're living in a 1st world country, just take your frickin sick days like a normal person. The other allegations sound like she's just throwing shit at the wall to see sticks. Provide proof or GTFO.

Well I mean that's why it's important to note that the allegations have been consistent since she has left her work.

 

Also, if your workplace employer is essentially saying "oh you are sick, power through it" or in general not believing you in your ailments; I could understand how someone could mentally be in a place of self harm to have an excuse that can't be refuted.  During COVID; one of the places I formerly worked at, I got work from the ex-employees that if any of them took time off they would pretty much be reprimanded  and if it's extended time off their names would be submitted for the next line of layoffs.

 

2 hours ago, Giganthrax said:

Madison's allegations are very sus. Companies with gigantic workloads and toxic cultures like she's describing tend to have high employee turnover rates (I've seen it quite a few times), for obvious reasons. And yet LMG has a ton of loyal faces who have been there for years? It just doesn't add up.

Well I think it's also important to note that many of the things like SH and SA are things that females face more in the tech world; and in essentially a club filled with guys (it shouldn't be it is).  As such, when the majority of people you see happen to be males; you wouldn't necessarily know whether or not it's toxic or not (and to an extent some females are also okay with some type of lewd type of humor, there was someone in my work where she would be the one who starts the jokes like that...but a lot of the time it's not).

 

To address the turn-over comment a bit more as well, you have to understand that as an employee working for a media company you don't necessarily want to burn the bridges; and in cases where it's your first real big job you def. don't.  With that said, I can think of 3 former female ex-employees; where 2 of them has had something bad to say to an extent.

 

There is Madison, but also Chelsea (her tweet from back in the day has been deleted though).  There was still something that I always found sus about Max' leave, but no comments and she appears to still have a good relationship with some of the LTT team.  The thing that I think could be telling if true though, in the CSF video where Max did her final bit; there's the mention that she's not compensated for her manicures/etc at all (despite her being the hand model); there was also the weirdness where it's the whole bit where they claim she's leaving because she's moving away when in reality she was only leaving for a few months then coming back to Vancouver.

 

Even in some of the videos of the employees, there seems to be a sentiment that the workload is set really high or don't have enough time to do things; which would be roughly in line with what she has also said.

 

  

25 minutes ago, ToboRobot said:

You think a third party investigator will be a fan of Linus and will side with LTT, or do you think the investigator is paid by LMG for a positive spin on the investigation?

This assumes the 3rd party is willing to forego their professional reputation for this. 

Yeah, lots of professionals and companies will work for some YouTuber and risk their professional career and business reputation in a high profile case. 

 

 

I would say it depends.  If it is a 3rd party, and a reputable one then there won't be an issue....but if lets say the 3rd party isn't announced; and they just release the findings without saying who the 3rd party will be then I could see it being swayed.

 

It's why I think a lot of this stuff has to be publicly released (like the report), otherwise it could be swayed.

[Beerzerker]

32 minutes ago, ToboRobot said:

You think a third party investigator will be a fan of Linus and will side with LTT, or do you think the investigator is paid by LMG for a positive spin on the investigation?

This assumes the 3rd party is willing to forego their professional reputation for this. 

Yeah, lots of professionals and companies will work for some YouTuber and risk their professional career and business reputation in a high profile case. 

 

Unfortunately they do exist and would do so.....
If the $$ is right.

That applies to investigators AND lawyers too.

It's the same thing as "More risk, more reward" and some would actually be motivated to "Get in on it" because with all the attention it's received, it's a high(er) profile case.

If you were a lawyer and won this, that would be a huge pick up for their rep and they'd be able to assume a higher profile meaning more $$ per case because they have proven themselves as being "That good".

An investigating team could claim the same and get higher profile work which obviously pays more too. If you're the one that "Got to the bottom" of a case and dug out all the facts, your own professional standing would go up and so would the fees you could charge for the same basic reasons stated earlier.

It's really not a case of what the issue is, it's who's got the nads to take it on if asked to because they know all the risks involved and they should, it's the their profession to know it and you are correct in one thing - It's also their rep on the line when they do and they know that too.

EDIT:
Laugh all you want - It's the truth and we both know it, esp when you're talking $$. 

[ToboRobot]

13 minutes ago, Beerzerker said:

Laugh all you want - It's the truth and we both know it, esp when you're talking $$. 

Reputation and impartiality is the business, if you forgo that, you are out of business.

[hmfaysal]

12 hours ago, nowItContinues said:

Because you know as well as I do that not everyone sees it like that. I myself am nerd as fuck. However I completely lack the "incel"-bitterness or the need to see myself as "better" or "more important than anyone.

 

Madison got hurt because some people wanted to see themselves as higher on the totem pole than Madison. Mostly because of theor own insecurity or because of fatigue.

 

Also that fatigue die to constant pressure will get to you and make you less than you are.

 

Yo circle back to your start. The constant pressure for excellence will wear you down. Will make you less than you are. Will make you insecure.

 

See where I am going with that?

 

Nerd-culture a has pitfalls. A d the route to bullying and worse is quite clearly in there.

Uh, wasn't she complaining about people who were literally "Higher on the totem pole"? I am kind of confused.

Did she think she was the head of social media at LMG because she was tasked to manage it? Can you be a head of anything if there are no other members in a team? 

I am super confused.

 

Really confused about by the higher on the totem pole comment. Like high? Was she high? Are you high? On a Monday? IDK, I guess, its okay

[hmfaysal]

27 minutes ago, Beerzerker said:

Unfortunately they do exist and would do so.....
If the $$ is right.

That applies to investigators AND lawyers too.

It's the same thing as "More risk, more reward" and some would actually be motivated to "Get in on it" because with all the attention it's received, it's a high(er) profile case.

If you were a lawyer and won this, that would be a huge pick up for their rep and they'd be able to assume a higher profile meaning more $$ per case because they have proven themselves as being "That good".

An investigating team could claim the same and get higher profile work which obviously pays more too. If you're the one that "Got to the bottom" of a case and dug out all the facts, your own professional standing would go up and so would the fees you could charge for the same basic reasons stated earlier.

It's really not a case of what the issue is, it's who's got the nads to take it on if asked to because they know all the risks involved and they should, it's the their profession to know it and you are correct in one thing - It's also their rep on the line when they do and they know that too.

EDIT:
Laugh all you want - It's the truth and we both know it, esp when you're talking $$. 

Don't worry, we have Steve Burke the savior to call out the 3rd party investigator company if something like this happens.

So chill, Steve will come save you

[Beerzerker]

25 minutes ago, hmfaysal said:

Don't worry, we have Steve Burke the savior to call out the 3rd party investigator company if something like this happens.

So chill, Steve will come save you

Not me - I'm just a casual member here and that's it and not even a member over at GN.

If LTT goes, I haven't lost much of anything and that's the extent of it.
Not subscribed to their Discord, YouTube channel, don't watch the WAN shows, not a contributor/backer with Bronze, Silver or Gold badges nor do I shop the online merch store....

Hell, I'm not even a gamer......

Yep - That's about it for me.

[Beerzerker]

39 minutes ago, ToboRobot said:

Reputation and impartiality is the business, if you forgo that, you are out of business.

That's how it's supposed to go.....
Sadly, that's not always the case. Get enough $$ involved and things change.

[hmfaysal]

10 minutes ago, Beerzerker said:

That's how it's supposed to go.....
Sadly, that's not always the case. Get enough $$ involved and things change.

Steve Burke will look out for it. Don't worry, Madison is safe with Steve looking over her shoulders. 

 

Nothing goes over Steve's head, his reflexes are too fast, he would catch it if something fishy is going on. 

[ToboRobot]

11 minutes ago, Beerzerker said:

That's how it's supposed to go.....
Sadly, that's not always the case. Get enough $$ involved and things change.

Wild unsubstantiated allegations.  

[Beerzerker]

23 minutes ago, ToboRobot said:

Wild unsubstantiated allegations.  

As things stand ATM that's correct - Things can change as time passes and it will, to what end we just don't know yet.

[hassam222]

You all realize LMG and Linus are small fries compared to the companies these types of investigators often work with right? They are not going to be able to bribe them one way or the other. 

[Beerzerker]

16 minutes ago, hassam222 said:

You all realize LMG and Linus are small fries compared to the companies these types of investigators often work with right? They are not going to be able to bribe them one way or the other. 

Please reread what I posted earlier.

2 hours ago, Beerzerker said:

If the $$ is right.
 

Thank you.

[Cosmic Emotion]

The investigation is irrelevant. The public have already made up their mind.