How come LTT build videos never have AMD GPU's in them?

[Action_Johnson]

I recently noticed this, it's been over a year where LTT has had a video where they're putting together a computer, and it has an AMD card in it. What gives?

[kumicota]

Probably because intel pays them way more than AMD, like in the Intel Extreme Tech Upgrade or the amount of sponsorship that intel does on their videos, so they ended up biased to use intel instead of AMD to not piss them off

[Dutch_Master]

Intel sponsorships. Plus the perception that nVidia is "always better", 'cause it has a whole 3 FPS more then an AMD product. Moreover, a lot of games (this is a gamers channel after all) are specifically optimised for nVidia cards/tech so AMD will always be at a disadvantage.

 

True, AMD is trailing a little, but when it comes to "value for money" it's still considerably better then nVidia. The perceived increased performance of an nVidia card is, at least in normal use, difficult to see while the enormous price hikes of the past 24 months are hardly justifiable. For both, really.   In that respect, I'm glad Intel entered the GPU market: the A380, while not exactly a high-end card, is at least very affordable, especially in relation to its features.

[Neroon]

1 minute ago, kumicota said:

Probably because intel pays them way more than AMD, like in the Intel Extreme Tech Upgrade or the amount of sponsorship that intel does on their videos, so they ended up biased to use intel instead of AMD to not piss them off

Wrong assumption.

22 minutes ago, Action_Johnson said:

I recently noticed this, it's been over a year where LTT has had a video where they're putting together a computer, and it has an AMD card in it. What gives?

They spoke about this on the WAN show from the 24th of sept. Check around the 20 minute mark I think. Short version is that AMD hasn't made any actual competing cards for a long time. Sure they are really good, but Nvidia has been better.

[dizmo]

To add to what @Neroon said, they likely don't get seeded as many AMD cards, so they don't have as many around to put into builds.

AMD is a pretty small percentage of the GPU space.

 

28 minutes ago, Dutch_Master said:

Intel sponsorships. Plus the perception that nVidia is "always better", 'cause it has a whole 3 FPS more then an AMD product. Moreover, a lot of games (this is a gamers channel after all) are specifically optimised for nVidia cards/tech so AMD will always be at a disadvantage.

 

True, AMD is trailing a little, but when it comes to "value for money" it's still considerably better then nVidia. The perceived increased performance of an nVidia card is, at least in normal use, difficult to see while the enormous price hikes of the past 24 months are hardly justifiable. For both, really.   In that respect, I'm glad Intel entered the GPU market: the A380, while not exactly a high-end card, is at least very affordable, especially in relation to its features.

And why do you think Intel sponsorships affect GPU selection?

[Blademaster91]

I recall seeing a WAN show clip answering why they only use Nvidia cards, and only named off older AMD cards, completely ignoring RX 6000 series, the RX 6000 cards are a much better value over Nvidia cards, especially for midrange cards.

[Helpful Tech Witch]

1 hour ago, kumicota said:

Probably because intel pays them way more than AMD, like in the Intel Extreme Tech Upgrade or the amount of sponsorship that intel does on their videos, so they ended up biased to use intel instead of AMD to not piss them off

 

1 hour ago, Dutch_Master said:

Intel sponsorships. Plus the perception that nVidia is "always better", 'cause it has a whole 3 FPS more then an AMD product. Moreover, a lot of games (this is a gamers channel after all) are specifically optimised for nVidia cards/tech so AMD will always be at a disadvantage.

 

True, AMD is trailing a little, but when it comes to "value for money" it's still considerably better then nVidia. The perceived increased performance of an nVidia card is, at least in normal use, difficult to see while the enormous price hikes of the past 24 months are hardly justifiable. For both, really.   In that respect, I'm glad Intel entered the GPU market: the A380, while not exactly a high-end card, is at least very affordable, especially in relation to its features.

it has nothing to do with intel
Intel has nothing in the gpu market that would make them want more nvidia gpus than amd
Its just amd is a bit behind and when you do a build for a channel like ltt they need to use the fastest shit no matter what

[CasoF13]

thats a reall shame wish they would now show more often nvidia alternatives. i mean i was also in camp nvidia but with the prices and powerdraw of rtx 4000 . and prices for 3000 still high in europe and powercost going insane where i live i thing going intel/amd is from now on a much better option from now on (at least for me)

[AlexTheGreatish]

2 hours ago, Action_Johnson said:

I recently noticed this, it's been over a year where LTT has had a video where they're putting together a computer, and it has an AMD card in it. What gives?

I'd expect a lot more once RDNA3 drops.

 

For me personally I use Nvidia cards in builds because their NVENC encoders are really freaking good. My job is to create videos and with Nvidia high quality game capture is easier so that's what I grab off the shelf.

[CasoF13]

6 minutes ago, AlexTheGreatish said:

I'd expect a lot more once RDNA3 drops.

 

For me personally I use Nvidia cards in builds because their NVENC encoders are really freaking good. My job is to create videos and with Nvidia high quality game capture is easier so that's what I grab off the shelf.

but what about now that arc is release with their video encoding ? any thought of switching or recommending over nvidia ?

[tkitch]

3 hours ago, CasoF13 said:

but what about now that arc is release with their video encoding ? any thought of switching or recommending over nvidia ?

probably not until streaming or other platforms embrace AV1 for regular use

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

Well to quench your Radeon lust, there is this thing... with a whopping Radeon HD 6350.

[AlexTheGreatish]

16 hours ago, CasoF13 said:

but what about now that arc is release with their video encoding ? any thought of switching or recommending over nvidia ?

As far as I can tell all Arc cards are currently sold out and given I normally use Nvidia because it "just works" there is no way I'll be using Arc.  If I need a GPU around $300 I'd choose the 6650 XT.

[Deadpool2onBlu-Ray]

23 minutes ago, AlexTheGreatish said:

As far as I can tell all Arc cards are currently sold out and given I normally use Nvidia because it "just works" there is no way I'll be using Arc.  If I need a GPU around $300 I'd choose the 6650 XT.

Yeah the ARC cards are going to be rough for a few years at least. That is if they don't stop making them before that.

 

If I needed a card at $300 I'd get a used Crytobro's 3060ti FE. People are WAY too afraid of used hardware, especially recent used hardware. 

[WhitetailAni]

13 minutes ago, CHICKSLAYA said:

If I needed a card at $300 I'd get a used Crytobro's 3060ti FE. People are WAY too afraid of used hardware, especially recent used hardware. 

I find used mining cards in better condition generally than used gaming cards. Miners care for their hardware since it's their money machine - dusting, replacing fans, monitoring temps. Gaming cards are typically thrown in a case, an OC profile is applied, and then it's not really looked at again.

[Sarra]

20 hours ago, FakeKGB said:

I find used mining cards in better condition generally than used gaming cards. Miners care for their hardware since it's their money machine - dusting, replacing fans, monitoring temps. Gaming cards are typically thrown in a case, an OC profile is applied, and then it's not really looked at again.

Until they use a pressure washer to wash their cards?

 

I mean, sure? I bought a gaming card in 2016, and it's been... In a box... Running... But it's also been cleaned, repasted, and new thermal pads applied, so... I disagree?

[Lairlair]

On 10/12/2022 at 11:51 PM, Dutch_Master said:

it has a whole 3 FPS more then an AMD product

I guess we're all a bit guilty of going for the best in terms of computing power, even if this choice is questionable in terms of return on investment. By that I mean paying 20% more for a 3% FPS increase for example.

 

I had a teacher for PC systems architectures at uni and he said the best value for money was usually at the junction between high end and mid range. I think he's right in that there's always diminishing returns when you go higher, buuut there's also always a specific use case for which you need the best of the best. And us gamers tend to think we need the best of the best even if in reality we'd be just as happy with 3 fewer FPS and a 100€ to buy games or whatever.

 

Also to answer the topic directly, I feel like I haven't seen a budget build video in a while. Maybe we would see more of AMD there? Though to be fair, market prices have been fluctuating so much that it might be hard to plan on a video that will make sense on release

[yolosnail]

Everybody seems to be missing the obvious answer, Nvidia acquired LMG 6 years ago.

Of course they aren't going to use any AMD GPUs!

[Jerakl]

On 10/12/2022 at 6:26 PM, AlexTheGreatish said:

I'd expect a lot more once RDNA3 drops.

 

For me personally I use Nvidia cards in builds because their NVENC encoders are really freaking good. My job is to create videos and with Nvidia high quality game capture is easier so that's what I grab off the shelf.

Maybe not for others but a good chunk of the reason I've been with Nvidia the last couple gpu upgrades is shadow play has been REALLY good to me for videocapture. 

 

I do remember amd was trying to form some competing software a while ago but idr if they ever got around to it. 

[Action_Johnson]

26 minutes ago, Jerakl said:

Maybe not for others but a good chunk of the reason I've been with Nvidia the last couple gpu upgrades is shadow play has been REALLY good to me for videocapture. 

 

I do remember amd was trying to form some competing software a while ago but idr if they ever got around to it. 

They did, but there's a little more compression vs NVENC. 

[Just that Mario]

On 10/13/2022 at 12:51 AM, Dutch_Master said:

but when it comes to "value for money" it's still considerably better then nVidia

I want to argue it isn't. Whilst it might be better FPS per dollar at certain titles and benchmarks, overall AMD cards as whole feature, software and user experience are awful.

[Jerakl]

59 minutes ago, Action_Johnson said:

They did, but there's a little more compression vs NVENC. 

Hmm good to know. I'd be interested to see how the compression affects the overall quality of the video. Also whether or not it can retroactively record, that's one of my fav things ab shadow play 

[Action_Johnson]

On 10/17/2022 at 12:38 PM, Just that Mario said:

overall AMD cards as whole feature, software and user experience are awful.

It's not 2017 anymore

[VesperMoirai]

There is tons of AMD builds they have done. Alot of them livestreams. The rest are videos. 

[Just that Mario]

On 10/19/2022 at 8:24 PM, Action_Johnson said:

It's not 2017 anymore

yeah and AMDs software and software features still suck ass. Even their main AMD control centre or whatever they call it and screen recorder are so terrible they shouldn't even exist.