DisplayNinja releases the first "review" of a QD-OLED monitor

[Stahlmann]

UPDATE: Since this topic was created, there have also been real reviews with more detail and actual data to back it up.

For example https://www-zhihu-com.translate.goo...l=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

 

 

Summary

17 hours ago, DisplayNinja posted the first real review of the much anticipated QD-OLED display technology, which promises to fix the few problems current OLED displays have while further building upon the existing advantages like true black, no blooming and unrivaled motion performance due to OLED's inherently fast pixel response times. I strongly encourage to read the full review from DisplayNinja, as i obviously won't include every detail. Overall the reception is very good with a 4.9/5.0 star rating.

 

 

 

Quotes

 

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In terms of picture quality and performance, the AW3423DW makes almost every LED-backlit gaming monitor over $1,300 obsolete.

 

Also important if you're not into OLED yourself because of burn-in concerns, etc. there are still good news:

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This also means that mini LED monitors will have to be a lot cheaper in other to compete with the AW3423DW, and indeed we’re already seeing some improvements there.

 

My thoughts

I'm personally really excited for this display tech. I have an OLED TV myself and seeing how DisplayNinja describes the picture quality it sounds like a display enthusiast's wet dream come true. True black, up to 1000 nits peak brightness, no weird WRGB subpixel layout killing text clarity or color volume, 175Hz, clear motion without ghosting, overshoot or dark smearing and inperceptable input lag no matter the refresh rate. Add a 3 year warranty that also includes burn-in protection and you have arguably the king of gaming monitors at hand.

 

Even for people that are still not interested in using OLED displays as a monitor, this will still heavily cut pricing of competing MiniLED monitors which have been extremely overpriced for the first few releases. CoolerMaster already announced 1440p 500+ zone MiniLED monitors coming in at $700 USD.

 

As far as i can tell there are two minor drawbacks:

 

No MBR/BFI (motion blur reduction or black frame insertion)

Imo this is a missed opportunity. Current OLED TV's using BFI have by far the clearest motion yet. Even better than 360Hz IPS monitors. I really hoped Dell would even go as far as combining it with VRR like Asus and Gigabyte already do in some models. But alas, this feature will probably be disabled for 99% of users because HDR is basically an always-on feature and cutting brightness with MBR would work against that.

 

No DSC/HDMI 2.1

Leaving out DSC results in the user needing to decide between using it at 10bpc 144Hz and 8bpc 175Hz. Not a big deal in my opinion because the difference between 144 and 175Hz are not noticeable, just as 8bpc vs 10bpc is in most cases. But i agree with DisplayNinja that this is just a small problem, as games that would show improvements in 10bpc are normally too demanding to go over 144Hz either way. Still, limiting a high-end product in such a way seems like an oversight imo. Leaving out HDMI 2.1 will steer some people away again, but even though it's just HDMI 2.0 it's still enough to use it for 1080p/1440p 120Hz on consoles. So a non-issue imo.

 

I'll still be holding my breath, as RTINGS already bought a unit for review and Tim from Hardware Unboxed also confirmed to release a review as soon as possible. I'm excited to see higher end technologies like OLED and MiniLED finally getting more affordable and not reserved for buyers that can spend several thousand dollars on a display.

 

Sources

Dell Alienware AW3423DW Review 2022: All You Need To Know! (displayninja.com)

[GuiltySpark_]

If they do a 38" 3840x1600 version, call me.

[Stahlmann]

1 minute ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

If they do a 38" 3840x1600 version, call me.

If it's gonna sell they'll probably build out their OLED lineup more. And seeing the first impressions and price i bet it's going to sell.

[Moonzy]

Hype, but I'm probably waiting for higher refresh rate models

And rtings' review

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

Do want.

[SolarNova]

Alas this is an example of an 'overview' .. not a 'review'.

This takes all the specs, talks about them, along with some subjective opinions.

 

Will have to wait for a competent reviewer to get actual test results for a better idea of how it performs.

[Stahlmann]

12 minutes ago, SolarNova said:

Alas this is an example of an 'overview' .. not a 'review'.

This takes all the specs, talks about them, along with some subjective opinions.

 

Will have to wait for a competent reviewer to get actual test results for a better idea of how it performs.

Yes i also noticed the lack of measured numbers. But that's why i noted i'm already excited about the reviews from HUB and RTINGS to draw my conclusion. But so far it seems like a great monitor.

[SolarNova]

1 minute ago, Stahlmann said:

Yes i also noticed the lack of measured numbers. But that's why i noted i'm already excited about the reviews from HUB and RTINGS to draw my conclusion. But so far it seems like a great monitor.

Aye.. .the lack of BFI really sucks though. I was hoping for BFI + VRR capability so it has a big leg up on LGs OLEDs.

[Stahlmann]

12 minutes ago, SolarNova said:

Aye.. .the lack of BFI really sucks though. I was hoping for BFI + VRR capability so it has a big leg up on LGs OLEDs.

BFI on OLED is a great thing indeed. But as these monitors aren't really bought for competitive games i'd say HDR is a more important feature than BFI. And using them at the same time isn't an option as BFI typically cuts the brightness about 50%. For more competitive gamers it's a drawback though.

[IPD]

Cannot bring myself to get excited over yet another 1440p offering.  Even if it came with VR and a fleshlight, I still wouldn't care.

[SolarNova]

17 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

BFI on OLED is a great thing indeed. But as these monitors aren't really bought for competitive games i'd say HDR is a more important feature than BFI. And using them at the same time isn't an option as BFI typically cuts the brightness about 50%. For more competitive gamers it's a drawback though.

Brightness cut depends on the BFI pulse width .. but yea it would decrease it.

It being an 'option' especially an option that works in conjunction with VRR, would make it THE undisputed king of motion clarity and smooth gaming.

 

I suppose we'll have to hope Asus uses the panel and gets their version out with ELMB Sync.

 

I hate to see manufacturers and brands seemingly 'purposefully' dragging their feet when it comes to opportunities to make significant advancements in consumer tech. BFi with VRR at the same time is one of them. BFI on OLEDs is another. Its a match made in heaven, and its easier to implement than LCD as u dont need to worry about strobe crosstalk.

[Stahlmann]

32 minutes ago, IPD said:

Cannot bring myself to get excited over yet another 1440p offering.  Even if it came with VR and a fleshlight, I still wouldn't care.

With the discussions we had in the past i knew something like this would be your response

If it's 8K 50" and with a 3000R curve then you care i'd wager.

But again, that's not what people call for.

 

And like i said, even if you don't care about this particular monitor, it's still great news for the overall extremely stagnant monitor market.

[starsmine]

1 hour ago, IPD said:

Cannot bring myself to get excited over yet another 1440p offering.  Even if it came with VR and a fleshlight, I still wouldn't care.

at this screen size for desktop use, there is honestly zero reason to have a higher resolution. 

[Quackers101]

not the first but okey.

although some are sponsored by sony

 

(removed* - re-added) alienware, auto translate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba9u6uhfgQw

 

(6 days ago, part 2) sponsored by Sony? A95K QD-OLED TV (jump to screen talk, else a lot of dull talk)

 

Edited March 8, 2022 by Quackers101

[Doobeedoo]

Cool. Can't wait to see some reviews eventually. But yeah, overall this is a good start transitioning away from LCD monitors. 

Yeah MBR/BFI would be great indeed. Also all consumer OLED displays are sample-and-hold though, I do wonder is there alternative like CRT works but for flat panels. I mean BFI is always there for sure.

 

Another thing, since it's Samsung display and they're also releasing such model, as well as the upcoming 4K 240Hz too, now I'd really like to see them have such display with QD-OLED eventually too once new GPUs With DP 2.0 hit. It would definitely cost a lot of course, but seeing price of this ultra-wide not bad for new tech. Besides, there are many overpriced and super expensive LCDs that are trash compared to this and definitely not worth over certain price, so.

[Brooksie359]

1 hour ago, starsmine said:

at this screen size for desktop use, there is honestly zero reason to have a higher resolution. 

I would have to disagree. At even 27 inches I can see the difference between 1440p and 4k as clear as day. That being said 4k is incredibly hard to run and really only make sense for games that you simply want the eye candy. For the most part the reason why 1440p is so popular is because people see it as the perfect middle ground. You can both get a higher image quality than 1080p while also have a much higher refreshrate and fps than you would get at 4k.

[IPD]

2 hours ago, Stahlmann said:

With the discussions we had in the past i knew something like this would be your response

If it's 8K 50" and with a 3000R curve then you care i'd wager.

But again, that's not what people call for.

 

And like i said, even if you don't care about this particular monitor, it's still great news for the overall extremely stagnant monitor market.

I don't see 1440 vertical lines and 34" as "pushing" a "stagnant monitor market".  It's like dipping your toes in the water when the market needs you to cannonball.

[starsmine]

6 minutes ago, IPD said:

I don't see 1440 vertical lines and 34" as "pushing" a "stagnant monitor market".  It's like dipping your toes in the water when the market needs you to cannonball.

What about 1440 27 inch?
because its an ultrawide 34, its the same Hight as a normal 27 inch screen.

 

it is pushing the monitor market. QDOLED is signficantly more advanced then OLED. True sub 1ms gtg unlike EVERY LCD panel, Colors more accurate then IPS and better blacks then a VA. Brighter then an oled, and no white oled light that desaturates the colors. There is no compromises here like there is with every single LCD screen or OLED screen. 

If this isnt a cannonball I guess I dont know what is. 

We dont need higher resolution at this screensize, there is nothing to be gained going bigger unless you are sitting 6 inches from the screen.

[CTR640]

It's actually not a review, it's just a shitty ass move and desperate for clicks.

No screens of the actual product is also nonsense review.

 

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/world-first-qd-oled-monitor-from-dell-and-samsung-34-inch-ultrawide-175hz.18945041/page-36#post-35482928

[IPD]

1 hour ago, starsmine said:

What about 1440 27 inch?
because its an ultrawide 34, its the same Hight as a normal 27 inch screen.

 

it is pushing the monitor market. QDOLED is signficantly more advanced then OLED. True sub 1ms gtg unlike EVERY LCD panel, Colors more accurate then IPS and better blacks then a VA. Brighter then an oled, and no white oled light that desaturates the colors. There is no compromises here like there is with every single LCD screen or OLED screen. 

If this isnt a cannonball I guess I dont know what is. 

We dont need higher resolution at this screensize, there is nothing to be gained going bigger unless you are sitting 6 inches from the screen.

Well not 1 part of that is relevant and/or factually accurate.

 

-27" 1440p?  Welcome to 2010.

-Ultrawide?  Welcome to 2015.

-6" from the screen in order to benefit from higher resolution?  Let me get you a cane, sunglasses and a dog to go with that eyesight of yours.

-No compromises?  Well I really wanted 20" vertical--so that's a pretty colossal compromise there, sparky.

 

P.S.

GTG?  Accuracy?  Brigher?  Don't care.  These are marginal, incremental gains that the market will make over time--regardless.  It's another way of trying to sell a UQHD to a market that is grossly over-represented in QHD.  This isn't a "cannonball".  It's wearing a speedo and hoping that people will notice you instead of everyone wearing trunks.

[Quackers101]

44 minutes ago, IPD said:

GTG?  Accuracy?  Brigher?  Don't care.  These are marginal, incremental gains that the market will make over time--regardless.

in different tech maybe, not how its currently. But if you don't care, then don't care about it.

About this monitor itself, can't say much about.

But about QD OLED itself;

 

Although Mini-LED does help for brighter HDR experience and better refresh rate with HDR enabled compared to something like OLED or dimming zones.

Accuracy in colors can be very helpful, but it really depends on the content and if you care about HDR content and not getting dull colors or bad performance.

as for GTG or speed, do really want to know how QD OLED holds up even if some of these marketing terms are a bit BS in how they are used or what they are used for. So one can look at smooth and nice details in games, without any smearing or ghosting which is a big deal but can also be less noticable depending on the display and what it's main focus is about. Where most monitors don't have VRR? which could still be an issue for QD OLED between refresh range/HZ, but by how much or how far it can be pushed? Maybe further than current OLED, if only one backlight color helps.

 

Something different about this display, is that it can do different workloads well, which something like you say is being worked on for the different screen solutions that exist currently. Not focused on content creation vs gaming, giving you the best from both worlds in a better OLED experience. If everything is true, about what is stated about it, and how fast these could go or replace most screen types after time until new technology is there.

 

QD OLED is not by any means marginal (for some it might be personally and for the price), if what is proven to work better than current OLED, it could become the standard, when or if production of the panels/filter improves. Also it's like a whole new OLED experience, while one might not see that much a difference for some, it is great improvement and handle better image quality and less power demanding? all that gives greater HDR experience, if one cares about that. And will be better than mini-LEDs in HDR but lower nits and better accuracy, as for gaming and speed, we have to see about.

Edited March 8, 2022 by Quackers101

[Quackers101]

7 hours ago, Stahlmann said:

Even for people that are still not interested in using OLED displays as a monitor, this will still heavily cut pricing of competing MiniLED monitors which have been extremely overpriced for the first few releases. CoolerMaster already announced 1440p 500+ zone MiniLED monitors coming in at $700 USD.

yes it's awfully overpriced for mini-LED with... how many zones?... not enough.

When Apple does Mini-LED a lot better on smaller devices? like damn son.

Overpriced and not good enough. *gets 2000 to 20k zone monitor*

[CTR640]

If there would be 27" or 32" QD-OLED monitors, it would have been a instant-buy for me. But unfortunately, ultra-wide is not an option for me.

I don't understand why Samsung won't make 16:9 monitors but it's their choice.

[AnonymousGuy]

Frantically checking if I have Dell Premier account to buy one now instead of waiting for general release.

[HomeBoi]

8 hours ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

If they do a 38" 3840x1600 version, call me.

hear hear