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A Valve Switch?

Summary

Valve has been developing a new piece of hardware for quite some time. This appears to be according to the recent changes in Steam’s code a new device called the 'SteamPal'. The name itself is a derivative of a previously discovered code with the term 'Neptune' which appeared last year in September with a 'Neptune Optimized Games' string. People who checked the code back in September thought it might be a reference to some type of controller. For the record, the name 'SteamPal' is very likely a internal name, not something specifically for the public. The 'SteamPal' wants to be a Switch competitor. Valve has kind of hinted (thanks to Gabe) that they may want to go on consoles, but they weren't specific. 

 

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 "Technically, that's true. The "SteamPal," whose name we're putting in scare quotes because we do not have final device-name confirmation, is an all-in-one PC with gamepad controls and a touchscreen. In other words, it looks and functions like a Nintendo Switch (albeit without removable "Joy-Con" controller functionality)."

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"SteamPal is still in the prototype stage and its features are subject to change, as we've seen with prototype hardware for other Valve initiatives like SteamVR and the Steam Controller. In other words, while I'm pretty confident SteamPal will include a d-pad, I can't say for sure. This also means I don't have specific details on crucial hardware aspects like battery size, screen size, pixel resolution, memory, and storage capacity."

 

My thoughts

Considering we’re talking about Valve creating their own hardware again, they’ve been known for their lack of popularity and ultimate cancellation of their project (like the Steam Machines). Though with that said, the Valve Index did pretty good despite the fact that it had lackluster supplies because of high demand (and ofc 2020). Whether if this particular new hardware is gonna become popular (and also available), all remain the be seen.

 

Sources

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/05/exclusive-valve-is-making-a-switch-like-portable-gaming-pc/

Desktops

 

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10 minutes ago, CephDigital said:

I mean, a Switch-like that can play PC games would be pretty neat.

what kind of power would be needed to run these? id imagine its aiming for high settings 60fps? the pricing would be insane 

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1 hour ago, CephDigital said:

I mean, a Switch-like that can play PC games would be pretty neat.

Many already exist.

 

Gdp win 3

Aya neo

One xplayer

 

Even just get a mobile phone telescoping controller and use something like moonlight and stream games to your phone from a full power desktop.

 

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Id be curious on what hardware it would run. Seeing how a few "Switch" like PC's exist I wonder what they will do differently? 

I just want to sit back and watch the world burn. 

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1 hour ago, CephDigital said:

I mean, a Switch-like that can play PC games would be pretty neat.

Nvidia Shield who?

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1 hour ago, CephDigital said:

I mean, a Switch-like that can play PC games would be pretty neat.

I already play my games rendered on my PC on my phone strapped to a PS4 controller

Steam link is nice

 

But ya if you don't have access to a strong PC then sure, but there's many portable PC like these already as arika listed out

-sigh- feeling like I'm being too negative lately

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Hopefully they do something different than being more of a clone, and if using steam OS?

Hope to see what this offers, and they often do projects tied to other things they do.

I guess big picture mode stuff, streaming and maybe coop? (remote play, streaming, couch coop, controllers or control features)

Something steam did good with steam controller, was the tools offered and be used by most controllers?

You can have multiple layouts, use it on non-controller games with presets or customzie layout, and more?

 

Its fun when they go with new features, not all perfect or maybe much used, but bring some life into the market (their market? 😛 ) one way or another.

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Given that steam link and steam controller have been the best purchases I've ever made for my gaming hobby ever since the wii and PSP, SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY VALVE!!!

 

You drag me out of the home console world, now make me stop buying handheld consoles

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Unless a company has Nintendo’s IP, they shouldn’t make a Switch competitor. You can buy an iPad and hook up any console controller you’d like to it and you immediately have a portable console that has a webcam and Bluetooth!! And tbh the Switch display sucks, it’s ok for the price but nothing to aspire to. The iPad Pros already have 120fps screens too. Am I wrong?

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1 hour ago, Jet_ski said:

Unless a company has Nintendo’s IP, they shouldn’t make a Switch competitor. You can buy an iPad and hook up any console controller you’d like to it and you immediately have a portable console that has a webcam and Bluetooth!! And tbh the Switch display sucks, it’s ok for the price but nothing to aspire to. The iPad Pros already have 120fps screens too. Am I wrong?

According to the video they a making a device running on an AMD SOC. That would mean games could run locally. The iPad solution would work if your streaming games from a gaming PC, but this device could possibly run some games locally mean you wouldn't need to stream those games. 

I just want to sit back and watch the world burn. 

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so a switch like device, with maybe steam OS and no detachable controllers that may have a touch pad (upgrade from steam controller?).

If so, No thanks, but then it supports a special VR mode that is improving upon or the inbetween of the phone VR and VR headset.

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Why?

Would be way more interesting to see anything else really, maybe try to get a new Linux distro that, 'just works' for all games a basic software without any quirks.

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33 minutes ago, Doobeedoo said:

Why?

Would be way more interesting to see anything else really, maybe try to get a new Linux distro that, 'just works' for all games a basic software without any quirks.

Steam OS

POP OS

 

Thats pretty much the distros that work for gaming. You will never have a Linux distros that works with all games. Because games coded for Windows sometimes use resources that are Windows specific, such as direct X. Or the games have bullshit DRM that don’t work in Linux. 

I just want to sit back and watch the world burn. 

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The problem with these is usually the software side, reason Switch is popular is Nintendo games and games more or less specifically designed for that "console experience". Steam doesnt have to many of those. So Im just wondering who's the target demo for such a thing? 

 

I guess Steam is ok with having niche products though, like Steam controller (discontinued?) and "index".

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If it's an RDNA2 SoC this could actually work really well in the coming years. 

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RDNA3, intel GPU?, stacked die?, DDR5?, Valve including what might be included features as shown in the unreal engine 5? naah, but would cool if it was..

Also how maybe we will see in the summer what AMD will do for RDNA2 cards. Need some scaling support to be on a handheld. (AI)

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I'm getting sick of every non-Switch handheld console being compared to the Switch.  There were so many handhelds before the Switch

I demand the thread title be changed to 'A Valve Game Gear?'.

 

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13 minutes ago, CerealExperimentsLain said:

I'm getting sick of every non-Switch handheld console being compared to the Switch.  There were so many handhelds before the Switch

I demand the thread title be changed to 'A Valve Game Gear?'.

well they weren't at first, mostly since you had other solutions that focused on a different build and use case.

Its just that bigger devices have often copied the switch design and doesn't offer something as a gaming handheld or as a different device than running a different OS and the "power" it got. From Nvidia shield, gameboy, phone gaming with part support and dual screen setups.

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wait wtf, its that old now?

 

 

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1 hour ago, CerealExperimentsLain said:

I'm getting sick of every non-Switch handheld console being compared to the Switch.  There were so many handhelds before the Switch

I demand the thread title be changed to 'A Valve Game Gear?'.

 

😛

True, but one difference is the Switch has a dock and its very nintendo unlike not a gimmick it actually unlocks more power, so that should be minimum expectation for a "Switch clone"…

 

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