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[Emily Young]

After promising RTX 3090 performance for $500 less, AMD’s Radeon RX 6900 XT has a lot to live up to.. Can it POSSIBLY be that good?

 

 

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[Ankh Tech]

can it? School chromebook so restricted video

[Vishera]

Paper launch.

[Stahlmann]

1 minute ago, Vishera said:

Paper launch.

Who would've thought? 

[SFFDesigns]

Just now, Ankh Tech said:

can it? School chromebook so restricted video

Kind of? Seems to be a bit slower on average but the 3090 doesn't have SAM yet, so the lead could widen for Nvidia

[Ankh Tech]

2 minutes ago, Hymenopus_Coronatus said:

Kind of? Seems to be a bit slower on average but the 3090 doesn't have SAM yet, so the lead could widen for Nvidia

well, can't argue for 500 dollars cheaper

[SFFDesigns]

1 minute ago, Ankh Tech said:

well, can't argue for 500 dollars cheaper

True. I'd personally wait for the 3080 Ti (reportedly the 3090 with 4GBs less VRAM and no NVLink)

[Ankh Tech]

Just now, Hymenopus_Coronatus said:

True. I'd personally wait for the 3080 Ti (reportedly the 3090 with 4GBs less VRAM and no NVLink)

well, then they are kiling the 3090 completely, maybe 3070 ti, but not the 3080, why do people buy the 3090, because. So the 3080 ti will only have more vram, and the same performance generaly to the 3080. Unless they hate their own 3090

[AndreiArgeanu]

Can't wait for nvidia to clutter the market again with super and ti variants of their cards.

[AndreiArgeanu]

3 minutes ago, Hymenopus_Coronatus said:

True. I'd personally wait for the 3080 Ti (reportedly the 3090 with 4GBs less VRAM and no NVLink)

NVIDIA isn't stupid, they wouldn't kill their top of the line card for the sake of competition. The 3080 ti will be at most a 6900XT competitor, no more than that. Unless NVIDIA would love to kill the 3090.

[SFFDesigns]

3 minutes ago, Ankh Tech said:

m, and the same performance generaly to the 3080. Unless they hate their own 3090

No, it will be around 3090-level performance from what we've seen. Probably will have some sort of limitation tho, and VRAM is clocked the same as 3080, just more of it. Also no NVLink but that doesn't matter.

 

It'll probably be like the 2080 Ti vs TITAN RTX if my predictions based on the leaks are correct (no one knows yet obviously).

[Ankh Tech]

Just now, AndreiArgeanu said:

NVIDIA isn't stupid, they wouldn't kill their top of the line card for the sake of competition. The 3080 ti will be at most a 6900XT competitor, no more than that. Unles NVIDIA would love to kill the 3090.

exactly as I said

[SFFDesigns]

Just now, AndreiArgeanu said:

The 3080 ti will be at most a 6900XT competitor, no more than that.

Exactly. It'll be marginally slower than the 3090 probably, but at 6900 XT price and performance. No one knows yet if the leaks are accurate tho obviously

[Stahlmann]

5 minutes ago, Ankh Tech said:

well, then they are kiling the 3090 completely, maybe 3070 ti, but not the 3080, why do people buy the 3090, because. So the 3080 ti will only have more vram, and the same performance generaly to the 3080. Unless they hate their own 3090

So i've watched it and the 6800XT is basically most of the time in the middle between the 3080 and 3090. Problem is, their ray-tracing performance straight up still sucks compared to NVIDIA, even when both have DLSS disabled. And NVIDIA is back on top with the 3080/3090 as soon as DLSS can be enabled.

[Stahlmann]

They really have to fix the power spikes with the current GPUs. A 6900XT tripping the overcurrent protection on a seasonic 1000W PSU is no joke and shouldn't happen, ever.

[Stahlmann]

Just now, Sakuriru said:

I'll settle for whoever can put a GPU in my hands first.

Basically how it is nowadays

[SFFDesigns]

10 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

They really have to fix the power spikes with the current GPUs. A 6900XT tripping the overcurrent protection on a seasonic 1000W PSU is no joke and shouldn't happen, ever.

This literally won't work with any SFF build either, since SFX PSUs don't handle spikes like this as well. 6900 XT buyers might have to wait for the SFX-L 1000W if they want an SFF rig

[Mateyyy]

10 minutes ago, Hymenopus_Coronatus said:

SFX-L 1000W

That sounds hot... literally, lol.

[SFFDesigns]

4 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

That sounds hot... literally, lol.

I mean yeah, even with a 120mm fan. SilverStone SX1000 Platinum INTRODUCTION (silverstonetek.com) 

[Egg-Roll]

Straight to the jugular TT? First a benchmark showing how it preforms so close to a $500 more card then straight to RT? I wouldn't also call it "well short" when in reality it's only 4-5 fps Also credit where credit is due they actually pointed out it isn't AMDs focus this gen, which is the first time they actually stated anything like that in any of their videos for AMD.

 

Nvidia shills confirmed, still this review is the most honest you've done of all AMD cards. Side note: AMDs performance in work related content may be able to be fixed via firmware/drivers along with program updates.

 

This image holds true however:

 

Ultimately I agree with Sakuriru grab the first card you can within your price bracket. RT may be the future but it's no where near worth the money right now unless you are obsessed over using bleeding edge tech and willing to compromise.

[Humbug]

So few games tested, too few to get a representative sample.

LTT kinda falling behind on GPU reviews...

[SolarNova]

1 hour ago, GabenJr said:

After promising RTX 3090 performance for $500 less, AMD’s Radeon RX 6900 XT has a lot to live up to.. Can it POSSIBLY be that good?

 

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This right along the lines I was expecting AFTER the 6800XT launched and got reviewed.

 

I think anyone who was hoping or expecting the 6900 to compete with the 3090 was running of assumptions made prior to the 6800XT launch, or just lying to themselves.

 

If you take the performance of the 6800XT and add on a % roughly that of the difference in CU's ~10%, u get 'roughly' the results we have.

 

As such, i expected to be disappointed, and I wasnt let down.

 

The 6900XT im confident, is what 'should' have been the 3080 equivalent, however you can be damn sure AMD bean counters decided that they would make more money but cutting it down a tiny bit to be 'close enough' to the 3080 resulting in the 6800XT, and sell the full beans card as a more expensive option akin to the 3090.

 

This stinks of greed, this is how things 'should' have gone down. Bare in mind the 6900 costs no more to make than the 6800 non XT

 

6900XT 3080 competitor at $100 less

6800XT 3070 competitor at $100 less

6800 3060ti  competitor at $100 less

 

if they had done that, they would easily take the market share and still make money. Each card would easily beat its intended competition. the 6900 handily matches or beats the 3080 in titles that are equally optimized.

The 6800Xt easily beats the 3070, and the 6800 would destroy the 3060 ti.

 

I cant emphasize enough how much of a missed opportunity this was for AMD, their offerings at the current prices are not competitive.

 

Heres another issue we're likely to have.

If Nvidia pulls out a 3080ti, they are going to use the 6900 price point as an excuse to match that price. A 3080ti should be priced like all other previous generations have done, it should take the price point of the 3080 and the 3080 should be lowered in price. BUT i fully expect Nvidia to use this as an opportunity to once again give the consumers the middle finger.

[Enzo1001]

2 hours ago, GabenJr said:

After promising RTX 3090 performance for $500 less, AMD’s Radeon RX 6900 XT has a lot to live up to.. Can it POSSIBLY be that good?

 

 

Buy AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT
Coming Soon

 

Buy AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT
On Amazon (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/FhJY
On Best Buy (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/Af0y8Uh
On Newegg (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/uQgdff

 

Buy AMD Radeon RX 6800
On Amazon (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/IDZW9w
On Best Buy (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/BShFj7m
On Newegg (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/WyVYtPZ

 

Buy Nvidia RTX 3090
On Amazon (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/3oGSmB2
On B&H (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/MgYQ7Bq

 

Buy Nvidia RTX 3080
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Buy Nvidia RTX 3070
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What do you mean buy?

[Zberg]

31 minutes ago, SolarNova said:

 

if they had done that, they would easily take the market share and still make money. Each card would easily beat its intended competition. the 6900 handily matches or beats the 3080 in titles that are equally optimized.

The 6800Xt easily beats the 3070, and the 6800 would destroy the 3060 ti.

 

I cant emphasize enough how much of a missed opportunity this was for AMD, their offerings at the current prices are not competitive.

I hear you on all that, though I dont think they will get dinged for it in the crazy demand market we have now.  

 

If all cards are available, feature sets and price/performance would come more heavily into play.  But as it is now, "buy any card you are lucky enough to see online" is the only procedure to even get a card, so I suspect until that evens out every 6900xt (and all the others) will sell every unit.

 

Given the selection out there (if actually available), I would be hard pressed to go for either the 6800xt or 6900xt over a 3080.  The best thing the 5700xt did was offer huge price incentive to make up for its shortcomings.   The price difference isnt big enough (with the exception of the 3090 vs the 6900xt...but I would still take a 3080 over the 6900xt anyways).  But I have been particularly burned by AMD too many times personally to trust their GPUs anymore, so I am admittedly biased.

[Radium_Angel]

So for those of you on team Red's side, a question:

 

I'm looking to replace some older nVidia cards I have (GTX 660, GTX 1060 3GB) and since the GFX card market is a clusterfuck these days, I was thinking to go with what is in stock, the Quadro line (I"m not much of a gamer) but this this popped up:

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Radeon-100-505826-256-bit-GDDR5/dp/B01N8XS96E/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=AMD+Radeon+RX+6800+XT&qid=1607445382&sr=8-7&tag=linus21-20

 

And I was curious if it would be an improvement over the 1060 (I'm pretty sure it'll be better than the 660) and this IF the GFX card market returns to sanity, I could then pick up a 3060/70/80/90/Ti/founder's/flounder's/supermassive/ultrarare edition.