3700x 3700x vs 5600x

[Arnab Roy]

Budget (including currency): 100000k INR(1350USD)

Country: INDIA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming, Video Editing, Content Creation, Streaming.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc):

Currently on an HP laptop(i5 6th gen). Buying on March 2021. Targeting 1080p 144hz.

Here is the thing I am torn between these two CPUs. Both of them costs almost the same as the 5600x being a bit more expensive(<50 USD). Now march 2021 I will build my second desktop currently on a HP laptop from 2016 (i5 6th gen) and earlier on the i3 3rd gen desktop. I plan on playing 1080p 144hz gaming with getting my hand on video editing and content creation possibly streaming also. The thing is since this is my second build with a first-ever discrete GPU( yes never had or owned any discrete GPU) it's really tempting me to go for the latest generation while on the other hand many people are saying that the 2 extra cores in the 3700x will come in handy a lot. Since I am on a 1080p panel I plan on going with the RX 6700 series if any comes out or the 3060ti 8/possibly 12 gigs (whichever is under my budget possibly the latter). Now I saw the benchmarks, the 5600x performs better nearly 20% or more in games than the 3700x. I plan on using this machine for the next 4 to 5 years what,s the best solution for me? there is equal weightage on video editing and gaming.

And I avoided the 5800x & 5900x as both are a bit too expensive for me.

[Electronics Wizardy]

If your buying in march, just wait, there will likely be price changes, and new skus and intel rocket like out by then.

[45HardBall]

if you need to buy now get an i7 10700k, if you buy in march you will probably have access to a well priced ryzen 5 5600x

[Bombastinator]

5600x vs 3700x is a conundrum.  The 5600x is faster, but the 3700x is 8/16 which the consoles are also.  One will be better.  Don’t know which yet though.  The upside of the 3700x is it’s faster than the consoles and has as many threads, but it doesn’t do the memory thing.  The upside of the 5600x is it’s got higher speed and will do the memory thing, but it doesn’t have 8/16.  It depends on which turns out to be more important.  Covering both bases means a 5800x but a lot of people are saying at that point you might as well buy a 5900x which ironically makes an argument for the 10700k

Edited November 19, 2020 by Bombastinator

[Letgomyleghoe]

8 minutes ago, 45HardBall said:

if you need to buy now get an i7 10700k, if you buy in march you will probably have access to a well priced ryzen 5 5600x

why buy a decently high end cpu, just to buy another in march? you would be wasting money.

if you really needed something you could get a 3600 and a b550 motherboard so that way you won't have to buy a new motherboard

[DailyProcrastinator]

5600x is getting close to the 3700x in multi threaded workloads thanks to the big IPC performance boost. I would get the cheaper of the two when you are ready to buy. Or whatever is competitive in that price point.

 

Right now in my current market the 9700k looks like a really good buy. But supply is going to dwindle for 9th gen Intel CPU's as well as compatible motherboards. 

[45HardBall]

55 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

5600x vs 3700x is a conundrum.  The 5600x is faster, but the 3700x is 8/16 which the consoles are also.  One will be better.  Don’t know which yet though.  The upside of the 3700x is it’s faster than the consoles and has as many threads, but it doesn’t do the memory thing.  The upside of the 5600x is it’s got higher speed and will do the memory thing, but it doesn’t have 8/16.  It depends on which turns out to be more important.  Covering both bases means a 5800x but a lot of people are saying at that point you might as well buy a 5900x which ironically makes an argument for the 10700k

with games supporting more and more threads the i7 10700k will probably still be the best choice if you are also rendering some stuff

[Bombastinator]

10 minutes ago, 45HardBall said:

with games supporting more and more threads the i7 10700k will probably still be the best choice if you are also rendering some stuff

S’all about price/performance.  The 10700k doesn’t have the memory stuff either, but a workaround is more likely for intel I think.  The AMD work around was the 5000 series. @Letgomyleghoe makes a fair point, but if one knows one is going to upgrade mar 2021, might as well save an extra $50 and buy a 2600.  That WILL need an upgrade by March.  A 3600 could theoretically last into 2022 if a amphere graphics card is bought.  That would be needed for everything but a 5xx0 chip anyway. 5xx0 would possibly want bignavi.  Thing is what console games have been shown so far don’t take the storage or high thread thing very seriously.  It appears it might be a while before stuff that really really leverages jaguar2 comes out. 

[45HardBall]

9 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

S’all about price/performance.  The 10700k doesn’t have the memory stuff either, but a workaround is more likely for intel I think.  The AMD work around was the 5000 series. @Letgomyleghoe makes a fair point, but if one knows one is going to upgrade mar 2021, might as well save an extra $50 and buy a 2600.  That WILL need an upgrade by March.  A 3600 could theoretically last into 2022 if a amphere graphics card is bought.  That would be needed for everything but a 5xx0 chip anyway. 5xx0 would possibly want bignavi.  Thing is what console games have been shown so far don’t take the storage or high thread thing very seriously.  It appears it might be a while before stuff that really really leverages jaguar2 comes out. 

i looked at many benchmarks and the differenceb etween i7 10700k and amd ryzen 5600 is extremely marginal and the intel one is also better in many games and since games support more and more threads the total power of the i7 might actually make it the better option unless AMD canstart shipping enough 5600x's at a lower price, also with the AMD chip you really need to spend a few bucks more on good ram, with intel it doesnt matter

[SavageNeo]

1 minute ago, 45HardBall said:

i looked at many benchmarks and the differenceb etween i7 10700k and amd ryzen 5600 is extremely marginal and the intel one is also better in many games and since games support more and more threads the total power of the i7 might actually make it the better option unless AMD canstart shipping enough 5600x's at a lower price, also with the AMD chip you really need to spend a few bucks more on good ram, with intel it doesnt matter

10700k is waste of money right now. I owuld be patient and wait for Ryzen cpus to be at stock. Or just get b550 board with r5 3600 and upgrade to 5800x when it is at stock.

 

 

[45HardBall]

48 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

10700k is waste of money right now. I owuld be patient and wait for Ryzen cpus to be at stock. Or just get b550 board with r5 3600 and upgrade to 5800x when it is at stock.

 

 

10700k performs better in half games than 5600x? and better at rendering and available

[Bombastinator]

2 hours ago, 45HardBall said:

i looked at many benchmarks and the differenceb etween i7 10700k and amd ryzen 5600 is extremely marginal and the intel one is also better in many games and since games support more and more threads the total power of the i7 might actually make it the better option unless AMD canstart shipping enough 5600x's at a lower price, also with the AMD chip you really need to spend a few bucks more on good ram, with intel it doesnt matter

This is what I’m saying.  5600x doesn’t break the AMD latency thing, so 10700k has to use the Nvidia latency thing just like the 3700k.  It also uses a totally different motherboard which may matter.  10700k also tends to be slightly pricier but it’s 8 core nature is nice.  It also OCs better though only something like 5% of 10700ks actually hit 5ghz. 10700ks are down binned 10900ks and it shows.  10700k starts to look good price wise when pushed up against a 5800x or 5900x. It becomes a question of do you really need to be THE fastest?