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Mining Rig for 2020

Stin6667
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Hi, 

 

So my friend ( I really mean my friend) wants to build a mining rig(128 cards(told me this today)). He came to me cause he knows close to nothing about computers.
I said I would try, but I know nothing about mining systems.I have recommended he go for a ryzen system ( this is when he told me he only wanted 16 cards).

Do you have any recommendations?

These are some of my thoughts, so far.

Go threadripper cause of the pci-e lanes. also he can dedicate some cores to a personal system.

Build it into a 4u ( with not too many gpu's in one box ( let the kids breath).

He wants to get 6900xt cards ( madness, but to each their own, hope he gifts me one 😉 )

 

Thanks for your help

J

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Get one of those mining boards with tons ofnx1 slots 

 

Here is a example https://www.asrock.com/mb/intel/h110 pro btc+/

 

Then get a open air frame. 

 

NO reason to go TR or anything high end cpu wise, it won't matter here.

 

Should be able to get the parts cheap cause its not really profitable now.

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7 minutes ago, Stin6667 said:

He came to me cause he knows close to nothing about computers.

So he wants free money and doesn't know how to get it himself, is what I am hearing.

 

7 minutes ago, Stin6667 said:

He wants to get 6900xt cards

128 of the most powerful card AMD has ever produced? Sure why not. Might as well get them from Costco wholesale while you're at it.

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Don't.

 

Mining is idiotic and wasteful. Use the hardware for something good like Folding at Home, or just gaming in general. It's fake currency with nothing but hopes and dreams backing it up. Even the US dollar is more stable than that stuff.

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Just now, TempestCatto said:

Don't.

 

Mining is idiotic and wasteful. Use the hardware for something good like Folding at Home, or just gaming in general. It's fake currency with nothing but hopes and dreams backing it up. Even the US dollar is more stable than that stuff.

Agreed! but don't shoot the builder! 

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1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

So he wants free money and doesn't know how to get it himself, is what I am hearing.

 

128 of the most powerful card AMD has ever produced? Sure why not. Might as well get them from Costco wholesale while you're at it.

For the entire project. But his words not min. Yea! I said start small, but he wants to go baller

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Just now, Stin6667 said:

Agreed! but don't shoot the builder! 

I'm not a good shot, so no promises. But at least try and talk some sense into your friend. I mean, if they can afford this kinda hardware, what the hell are they doing building overly powerful computers to "mine" for money? They will lose more than they gain. Spend it on something worth while, like a house.

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1 minute ago, TempestCatto said:

I'm not a good shot, so no promises. But at least try and talk some sense into your friend. I mean, if they can afford this kinda hardware, what the hell are they doing building overly powerful computers to "mine" for money? They will lose more than they gain. Spend it on something worth while, like a house.

No reasoning with him. Once his mind is set. There's no changing it.

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6 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Get one of those mining boards with tons ofnx1 slots 

 

Here is a example https://www.asrock.com/mb/intel/h110 pro btc+/

 

Then get a open air frame. 

 

NO reason to go TR or anything high end cpu wise, it won't matter here.

 

Should be able to get the parts cheap cause its not really profitable now.

Mmm. interesting. Will look more into it. thanks for the recommendation. would a normal ryzen board do the same? 

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1 minute ago, Stin6667 said:

Mmm. interesting. Will look more into it. thanks for the recommendation. would a normal ryzen board do the same? 

there really aren't ryzen boards that are for that use case to my knowlege. But why go ryzen? Intel has better low end chips(think celeron), and the cpu performance won't matter here.

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So firstly he should figure out the heating, cooling, and power situation for 128 cards. That's 38,400 watts of power just from the GPUs without any cooling. Assuming he has this figured out go for a mining motherboard that supports up to 19 PCIE risers per motherboard. You can find them on Amazon by searching BTC mining motherboard. He should then get a highly efficient 1600W PSU. Or what most people would do is get a PSU made for 220v and then it can support higher wattages. Bitmain sells them for like $70/piece. He should also look at getting a mining chassis for each rig. They are just made out of 80/20 so if you are handy you can just build one. Otherwise they are like $30/piece on Amazon. They can house 2 motherboards and 2 PSUs usually and as many cards as you can fit. After he has this he will need to network them all together. I suggest getting a large gigabit switch. Finally the 6900XT seems like it will be a solid choice as we will have to see how the infinity cache plays a role in algorithms made to be ASIC resistance by making the bottleneck the memory, DaggerHashimoto is one. He's probably looking at spending $150,000 for everything and good luck getting 128 cards from Nvidia or AMD right now. Without power factored in he is looking at around $14,000-$22,000/month

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tell him to learn this stuff on his own and be done with it.

While learning about this he will learn that this is completely pointless and extremely stupid.

 

where does he want to set this up at all?

the power consumption of the GPU´s alone would be almost 40kW which is about twice the TOTAL power you can reasonably draw in a household.

 

Beside the stupid money he would spend for this useless build he would need to pay the utility company to get more power lines laid to his house.

 

Its not worth it to bother with this at all its completely stupid and a waste of money, tell him that and that you dont want to talk about this again.

 

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16 minutes ago, Pixel5 said:

tell him to learn this stuff on his own and be done with it.

While learning about this he will learn that this is completely pointless and extremely stupid.

 

where does he want to set this up at all?

the power consumption of the GPU´s alone would be almost 40kW which is about twice the TOTAL power you can reasonably draw in a household.

 

Beside the stupid money he would spend for this useless build he would need to pay the utility company to get more power lines laid to his house.

 

Its not worth it to bother with this at all its completely stupid and a waste of money, tell him that and that you dont want to talk about this again.

 

However, it's a great idea if he's going to F@H instead ;) 

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I thought Coin Mining totally died out after folks finally realize that it isn't profitable and the Coins are basically a glorified Ponzi Scheme. The only ones who are making any money, are the ones who started them, and who got in early.

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There are certain things that you simply have to refuse and not get involved.

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128 cards?!  🤣  He's not serious... 

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5 minutes ago, Velcade said:

128 cards?!  🤣  He's not serious... 

That would have to be the size of a server room or small Data Operation Center?

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Tell him as a friend to friend that crypto mining is nonsense. He should invest in a computer related trade, buy one high end PC and make money by doing that. Like 3D modeling, programming or whatever. That is far more profitable than crypto mining. Only time it's worth it is when you can make electricity for free and hardware doesn't cost you much. He wants to spend $128.000 just on graphic cards... It'll take ages to even get back on the investment, let alone make actual profit.

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Theres so much....WHY with this type of post.  Not in the "mining is dead" sense - its not really, its just very targeted on what you are trying to achieve (creating currency that has value is very difficult these days - creating currency by losing money, not so much)

 

How about the real estate - where is this going to be housed?  Certainly you have thought about this - it only takes a few high powered open air cards to heat up a sizeable room.

 

I almost didnt comment, but still did anyways.

 

Sounds like your friend either:

 

Has no idea what he really is wanting or talking about

 

Has an insane amount of expendable income that I would then, as a friend, tell him it would be better to seek a financial advisor to create more income with that lump sum asset.  

 

Is trying to find a way to launder illegal money as quickly as possible into a hardware situation (Im reaching with this one) that can be resold later 

 

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to be honest there is no reason to spec out a system for someone who doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.

first you should tell your mate that he needs to do some reading on mining before he commits these amounts of cash into a project.

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* thread moved to the New Builds & Planning section *

 

As others have mentioned, he has no idea what he's doing, try to explain power usage, cooling the ROI and profitability to your friend.

 

128 card mining operation is going to be expensive to start, and he's going to need commercial space to do this, I mean, if he has $100k to invest in this, then it's his money, but he's not going to be profitable (ROI, electricity cost, rent on the place, insurance, cooling systems, etc..)

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12 hours ago, TempestCatto said:

Don't.

 

Mining is idiotic and wasteful. Use the hardware for something good like Folding at Home, or just gaming in general. It's fake currency with nothing but hopes and dreams backing it up. Even the US dollar is more stable than that stuff.

Haters gonna hate. Crypto is better than the USD will ever be because people like JP Morgan do anything in their power to make as much money off of you. The 2008 housing crash was caused by US banks being greedy and then us the taxpayers had to pay to bail them out. I agree cyrpto prices aren't as stable but there are many means now days to mitigate the fluctuation. 

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1 hour ago, whm1974 said:

I thought Coin Mining totally died out after folks finally realize that it isn't profitable and the Coins are basically a glorified Ponzi Scheme. The only ones who are making any money, are the ones who started them, and who got in early.

You should read up on crypto if you thing it's a Ponzi Scheme lol. PayPal just added support, Walmart uses the blockchain to track produce freshness, and Russia is working on swapping over to Ethereum for it's banking system

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